lazy drivers

Dr. Loon · 03-05-2007 02:46PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I don't drive by the book sometimes but I do drive safely.

Driving the wrong way around a roundabout is unsafe driving. Cop on.

tc20 · 03-05-2007 02:48PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I do drive safely.

and "i do between 35 and 45mph thru a country town/village"

The boy's a genius :rolleyes:

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 02:50PM

The boy's a genius

What is your issue with that? Drive from Dublin to Galway and every village you drive through people will be at those speeds. Depending on what point they are in the town. People who don't are in the minority. Majority rules.

dame · 03-05-2007 02:50PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

All my friends and family do and I never find myself chastisted for doing so

Oh well, that's OK then, everyone does it.

_feedback_ · 03-05-2007 02:52PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

That is out of line. Everything that I have said has been reasonable and fair. I don't drive by the book sometimes but I do drive safely. Nobody here ever talks about when the drink drive or speed but yet a huge amount of society does. All my friends and family do and I never find myself chastisted for doing so but as soon as I mention it on a forum all the saints come out to take a shot at me.

You talk about ignoring a roundabout..... because it's at night and it's quiet, you reckon that's ok. It's not, at night time there are a lot more restrictions to your ability to be able to judge a safe move in a car.

You talk about driving a bit over the limit in 30mph zone.... are you one of those muppets who will try to intimidate a driver obeying the speed limit? by driving too close or swerving erratically in an attempt to overtake?

Is there any other rules of the road that you don't bother with?

Seatbelt?
Lights?
Stop Signs?
Speed limits higher than 30mph (50 kph) ?
Pedestrian crossings?

muppet.

biko · 03-05-2007 02:53PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

Majority rules.

Law rules.

I think this thread should locked or something. A bit of ganging up on the noob.

cornbb · 03-05-2007 02:54PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I don't drive by the book sometimes but I do drive safely.

Obviously you don't, have some sense.

Nobody here ever talks about when the drink drive or speed

Yes we do, quite a lot in fact

All my friends and family do and I never find myself chastisted for doing so but as soon as I mention it on a forum all the saints come out to take a shot at me.

I can assure you that any motorists that witness you perform the idiotic activities you describe here are cursing you in much more graphic and colourful terms that are being used here, I know I would be anyway.

Floppybits · 03-05-2007 02:57PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

What is your issue with that? Drive from Dublin to Galway and every village you drive through people will be at those speeds. Depending on what point they are in the town. People who don't are in the minority. Majority rules.

It just gets worse and worse. So if the majority of drivers that start driving their cars into walls you will do the same because the majority of drivers are doing it?

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 03:00PM

The laws are clearly out of step with the public. Law is dictated by a popular consensus, but the usual road safety zealots make sure they have the law their way.

smokingman · 03-05-2007 03:03PM

Before it does get locked though....

Now as people who know me will tell you, I'm a "slow" driver in that I do obey the limits on roads.

I do this for a few reasons;

1 : I don't want points - my insurance is high enough
2 : I'm never in a rush anywhere - "if you go in time, you'll be there in time"
3 : If i DID speed, I'd knock, oh what, a few seconds or even a minite or two off my journey - time I could spend...er....counting the time I've saved in speeding?
4 : I love motorsports in all forms but that's on a track...and I think I'm intelligent enough to know the difference - I can just use videogames for my thrill kicks.
5 : I want my car to last a long time and get the best out of it (that's why I service it myself) so why am I going to throw it around corners wasting rubber?

I'm no goody-goody but this is just common sense here, what's the horrible stigma with being like this? Please do tell 'cause I've no idea...

cornbb · 03-05-2007 03:08PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

The laws are clearly out of step with the public. Law is dictated by a popular consensus, but the usual road safety zealots make sure they have the law their way.

Could you elaborate on this? Are you suggesting that it should be legal to drive the wrong way around roundabouts?

The mind boggles...

tc20 · 03-05-2007 03:08PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

What is your issue with that? Drive from Dublin to Galway and every village you drive through people will be at those speeds. Depending on what point they are in the town. People who don't are in the minority. Majority rules.

I'll tell you what my issue is, and i'll refrain from trying to abuse you. In fact i do regularly travel that route as i have family in Galway. And no, people do not hoon thru the towns/villages at those speeds. Lets be logical here for a moment shall we? A factor in accidents caused by excessive speed in urban areas can be attributed to the difference between a drivers perceived ability, and their actual ability. For example, you're driving thru Moate, its a town with a wide main street. So you think its cool to do 35-45mph cos it looks to be clear, and sure you're in control of your car. So a kid runs out from behind a parked car to cross the road. You will suddenly find that "between 35 and 45mph" is way too quick.
I do exceed the limit i admit on a M-way or dualler. But i will absolutely will not go above 50kph (or 60 if posted)thru a village/town. Why? Firstly cos of what could happen, secondly its the LIMIT in a built up area.
Now the difference between perceived and real ability is something people should be more aware of (moreso younger/less experienced drivers). Its not something on which a strong enough emphasis is placed on when you're learning to drive.
So cop on to yourself, before you learn the hard way.

humanji · 03-05-2007 03:08PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

The laws are clearly out of step with the public. Law is dictated by a popular consensus, but the usual road safety zealots make sure they have the law their way.

Isn't this contradicting itself?

gyppo · 03-05-2007 03:14PM

tc20 wrote:

For example, you're driving thru Moate, its a town with a wide main street. So you think its cool to do 35-45mph cos it looks to be clear, and sure you're in control of your car.

I live near Moate, and anyone who can drive at 20mph due to the traffic volumes is doing well:D

Anyhow, sorry for digressing, totally agree with your post.

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 03:14PM

thru Moate,

Moate is one place where I would go slower. My speed is dictated by hte conditions and not by the speed limits. There are towns further up where for a half mile either side you would be in the wrong ot drive at 30mph. As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

gyppo · 03-05-2007 03:17PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

Moate is one place where I would go slower. My speed is dictated by hte conditions and not by the speed limits. There are towns further up where for a half mile either side you would be in the wrong ot drive at 30mph. As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

Not through choice, I'd bet.

I hope you cop yourself on, and loose that cocky smug attitude, otherwise you might just make a small and all too common paragraph on the news some day.

_feedback_ · 03-05-2007 03:18PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

Moate is one place where I would go slower. My speed is dictated by hte conditions and not by the speed limits. There are towns further up where for a half mile either side you would be in the wrong ot drive at 30mph. As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

It doesnt matter if it's moate or anywhere else... the same hazards are there.

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I know I am an excellent driver

HA !!!!!

smokingman · 03-05-2007 03:20PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

My speed is dictated by hte conditions and not by the speed limits.

As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

Please, stop digging...you're killing me here!

Just a newsflash, you actually bring your speed even lower than the speed limit if there are "conditions" such as rain, snow etc...

03-05-2007 03:20PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

Moate is one place where I would go slower. My speed is dictated by hte conditions and not by the speed limits. There are towns further up where for a half mile either side you would be in the wrong ot drive at 30mph. As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess that your speed is, in fact, restricted by the speed limits. It is law, is it not?

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 03:23PM

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess that your speed is, in fact, restricted by the speed limits. It is law, is it not?

Wrong.
I won't drive over 120kmh on the motorway as its as fast as I need to go and not very fuel efficient. I will drive more or less at 100kmph on national roads, maybe a bit more depedning on conditions. Some 80 limits I'll drive 100 and so on..Its calculated, safe driving although not entirely legal. What is your problem with this?

smokingman · 03-05-2007 03:27PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

As for my percieved abilities; I know I am an excellent driver (no accidents, 100% in drivintg test) so I drive accoringly.

By the way, I'm also an excellent driver!

. I'm not deluded into thinking I will never make a mistake or never find some gobeen like you coming at me the wrong way around a roundabout though.

Mossy Monk · 03-05-2007 03:33PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I know I am an excellent driver

No you're not. An excellent driver would obey the rules of the road. I am sure all the idiots who wrapped themselves around a tree thought they were excellent drivers too.

I like how you spout on about driving with the conditions. What if a child suddenly appeared out of nowhere?

biko · 03-05-2007 03:33PM

You know what would save the day? If Salthjillwarrior was an 19 yo girl

Please please

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 03:34PM

You may as well lock this. Its David versus Goliath here. Views have been exhcanged, views have been changed and doubters have been humbled.

'What if a child suddenly appeared out of nowhere?'
I'm assuming reality here and not the land of magic.

Pherekydes · 03-05-2007 03:37PM

Stop feeding the troll. :rolleyes:

Seriously, just let the guy post and let's have a good laugh.

Mossy Monk · 03-05-2007 03:37PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

I'm assuming reality here and not the land of magic.

You are a moron.

biko · 03-05-2007 03:40PM

Well, still I need to know where you usually do your stunts so I can stay the hell away from the area.

Salthillwarrior · 03-05-2007 03:41PM

Well, still I need to know where you usually do your stunts so I can stay the hell away from the area.

West Galway, from Oughterard to Connemara.

tc20 · 03-05-2007 03:45PM

Ok, so maybe Moate was an inappropriate town to use an example

, i just thought it would be a town people would know.
So Salthill, what speed would the conditions dictate to drive thru Kilbeggan ?
Or is it cool to drive thru Ballinasloe at 35-45mph because it is a long spread out town, where (coming from Dublin) the 50kph limit is posted, it seems fairly quiet, just a few houses and a factory (Dubarry?).

And according to yourself "As for my perceived abilities; i know i'm an excellent driver"....
Well 'perceived ability' is what you think you are capable of.
'Actual ability' is what you are actually capable of.

So, can you tell me what your actual ability would be if a kid was to run out in front of you in a village as you do 35-45? Or if someone were to open the door of a parked car?

I'm not being condescending, just curious, how long have you been driving?

cornbb · 03-05-2007 03:45PM

Salthillwarrior wrote:

West Galway, from Oughterard to Connemara.

K thanks, I'll try to figure out a route home from work today that avoids all small villages and roundabouts

lazy drivers

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