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Gambling Degenerate, do I need help?

  • 04-04-2007 03:32PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭


    All my life I've gone to the races and bookies, and was a reasonably successful punter, I had two big catchs in my time, one was a hefty e/w bet on hedgehunter to win the national at 25/1, another was media puzzle at 33/1 for the melbourne cup.

    I started playing poker in college about a year and a half ago, just the €5 tournament every tuesday. Nothing major. When I turned 18 I played my first tournament in a casino, just a little freeroll, I came 5th for a ticket to a tournament the week after.

    I kept up an interest in the game over the summer. I also had a summer job, working for min wage putting in close to 40 hours a week. Around this time I discovered a local casino, where €1/€2 cash games were played.

    Most people bought in for around 200-400euros, so it's a reasonably sized game, for the first week or two I crushed this game. Making more in a night than in a week of my job, I soon quit my job and played full time, 9pm to 7am, sleeping through most of the day. I was a very respected and feared player at this casino.

    I through away some of this cash, a good bit playing blackjack and roulette, my typical night started off with losing 50-100 on the house games knowing I'd make it back easily, then blew lots on going out etc. and all the other things that happens when u give a kid lots of money.

    One time one of the regulars came in drunk one night and offered me a bet, we would draw two random hands, whoever won got a hundred off the other. Of course I accepted readily.

    I then went on a bit of losing streak, the other guys copped onto my game and started giving me less action.

    When I moved back to college in dublin I started playing in the fitz card club, I started of with a borrowed 400, I ran this up to 7k over the space of 5-6weeks playing most nights a week, college work went completely out the window, i dind't turn if for lecture. I was making 50+ an hour and having loads of fun. I had nights where I won 1k+. A guy used to slap me on the back everytime he saw me and say that I never lose.

    Before I played poker I used to play some blackjack and in between hands on the poker table I'd run over to the roullette table if for example black was on a good run.

    I then played two big tournaments, this cost about 600ish, I finished one place outside the money in one and was no where in the other. I went to play cash gmaes and just gambled about 600-700 away on tilt.

    I went through a phase where money was completely worthless, on a bus one day talking to some guys in college, one guy mentioned his parents were giving him less money, and how he was 60 euro in debt(!), i nonchalantly told him I'd lost 1200 that weekend, but it was ok cause I'd make 1800 during the week.

    I went on a trip to a casino around that time and stayed in a hotel with a guy I met off the internet. A couple of nights in the casino and I was up a couple of thousand. I came back won night and put the cash in my suitcase, when I woke up, the cash and my roomate were gone :(

    When I went to go back to play in the fitz I went on a horrific run of cards, I lost 1k a night a couple of times, I kept getting extemely unlucky, like all-in with a straight in a €800 pot against two guys with two pair and one of the hitting a house etc.

    One night I sat down with my last four hundrd of back roll, I was down to fifty but ended up even for the night. The poker ends at seven in the morning, so I headed over for some roullette and picked up a few quid.

    Then the punto table beckoned, I employed a simple strategy, you either bet on the bank or punto, it's close to 50/50, I martingaled my bets, I bet 10 if I lost I bet 20, then forty etc. Pretty quickly i turned my 400 into close to 1k.

    Then it happened, I lost my 10, then 20, then 40, then 80, then 160, I can't lost the next one I thought, and moved all in for my last 320. boom, busto.

    I used my last bit of change to catch the bus home. This was in dec.

    I then borrowed 500 to play on the internet, I started of at the lowest levels of .10/.20 before building up to a 6k bankroll within two months to play 1/2nl.

    But since feb I've just been losing.

    I busted my bankroll on one site doing flips, where everyone just sat at a table goinf all-in every hand regardless of cards, I built up a huge stack but lost it all. I got such a buzz out of the gambooling it didn't matter.

    Below is a link to a graph of my winnings, excluded is 2k in tournament winnings, and another 2k in rakeback and bonus'.

    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/phantom_lord1983/boring2.jpg

    this is a graph from last night

    I also have a ticket for the irish open on friday, worth 3.5k, I don't know if I'm good enough to cash, it might just be a waste of money.

    I'm beginning to doubt I can make money at poker, I'm also beginning to suspect the site I play on is rigged to induce more action and generate rake.
    I sometimes wonder if I should just quit and get a job like "normal" people.

    I'm well known among some of my friends for my hefty gambling habits, one of them handed me a pamphlet from gamblers anonymous, you know the one saying if you can tick 7 out of these 30 boxes you have a problem? I could tick nearly all the boxes. A blog containing the whole jouney is linked in my sig.

    do I need help?


    cliff notes: I've just turned 19 and I've won and lost vast quanties of cash. am i a sick degenerate?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    Depends I would say.
    1) Do you owe lots of money to people?
    2) Do you you will lose the 3.5k in that tournament?
    3) Is your bad streak down to chasing losses, increasing bets, playing loose like all poker losers - instead of playing tighter and geing down a couple of levels like pros?
    4) Do you hate your life?
    5) Do you see yourself living like this for the rest of your life?
    6) Do you have anything to show for the last year? House, Car, girlfriend?

    If 1-4 is yes and 5 and 6 are no then you need to reassess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    http://www.gamblersanonymous.ie/
    Most compulsive gamblers will answer 'yes' to at least seven of these questions...
    1 Do you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
    2 Is gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
    3 Is gambling affecting your reputation?
    4 Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
    5 Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
    6 Does gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
    7 After losing do you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
    8 After a win do you have a strong urge to return and win more?
    9 Do you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?
    10 Have you ever borrowed to finance your gambling?
    11 Have you ever sold any real or personal property to finance gambling?
    12 Are you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
    13 Does gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
    14 Have you ever gamble longer than you had planned?
    15 Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?
    16 Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
    17 Does gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
    18 Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?
    19 Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?
    20 Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

    I do think you should consider getting help.
    It had to be your decision for your own reasons and to make your life better for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    dude iv talked to you very briefly in the past about making money from poker and then you even sounded a bit burnt out...................

    you say you don tthink you can make money from poker any more but to me it looks like your just losing it playing other mug games.............

    maybe it is time to chill out on the gambling and play low limit cash games ONLY, if you cant do that then i dont think poker pro is the profession for you.

    i have seen interviews with pros who go on how they are natural born gamblers and they blow a million on the golf course here and there etc etc but you can be guaranteed they dont play a 50-50 game with their last 400 dollars

    it sounds to me like your on the cusp of being a very succesful player but you need to sort out your habit of wasting your winnings on other gambling. waste it on other things like normal 19 year olds jesus you could walk into lillies one night a wekks and play the high roller for the night to let off steam but gambling it is not the way to do it

    maybe im talking crap these are just the things that came into my head as i read

    ps for the purpose of the above gambling is everything besides poker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Most compulsive gamblers will answer 'yes' to at least seven of these questions...
    1 Do you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? tick
    2 Is gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
    3 Is gambling affecting your reputation? in a way I guess
    4 Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?only when that donkey calling my pf, and called me down to the river sucking out hitting his gutshot
    5 Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
    6 Does gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?tick
    7 After losing do you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
    8 After a win do you have a strong urge to return and win more? i guess so
    9 Do you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?tick
    10 Have you ever borrowed to finance your gambling?tick
    11 Have you ever sold any real or personal property to finance gambling?
    12 Are you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?tick
    13 Does gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
    14 Have you ever gamble longer than you had planned? tick
    15 Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?
    16 Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
    17 Does gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?used to, till I got used to the swings
    18 Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?
    19 Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling? no, but I did celebrate after a few hours of good gambling!
    20 Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    I went on a trip to a casino around that time and stayed in a hotel with a guy I met off the internet. A couple of nights in the casino and I was up a couple of thousand. I came back won night and put the cash in my suitcase, when I woke up, the cash and my roomate were gone

    mother of god.....that and that alone would put be on killer tilt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭Iago


    All my life I've gone to the races and bookies, and was a reasonably successful punter, I had two big catchs in my time, one was a hefty e/w bet on hedgehunter to win the national at 25/1, another was media puzzle at 33/1 for the melbourne cup.

    I started playing poker in college about a year and a half ago, just the €5 tournament every tuesday. Nothing major. When I turned 18 I played my first tournament in a casino, just a little freeroll, I came 5th for a ticket to a tournament the week after.

    I kept up an interest in the game over the summer. I also had a summer job, working for min wage putting in close to 40 hours a week. Around this time I discovered a local casino, where €1/€2 cash games were played.

    Most people bought in for around 200-400euros, so it's a reasonably sized game, for the first week or two I crushed this game. Making more in a night than in a week of my job, I soon quit my job and played full time, 9pm to 7am, sleeping through most of the day. I was a very respected and feared player at this casino.

    I through away some of this cash, a good bit playing blackjack and roulette, my typical night started off with losing 50-100 on the house games knowing I'd make it back easily, then blew lots on going out etc. and all the other things that happens when u give a kid lots of money.

    One time one of the regulars came in drunk one night and offered me a bet, we would draw two random hands, whoever won got a hundred off the other. Of course I accepted readily.

    I then went on a bit of losing streak, the other guys copped onto my game and started giving me less action.

    When I moved back to college in dublin I started playing in the fitz card club, I started of with a borrowed 400, I ran this up to 7k over the space of 5-6weeks playing most nights a week, college work went completely out the window, i dind't turn if for lecture. I was making 50+ an hour and having loads of fun. I had nights where I won 1k+. A guy used to slap me on the back everytime he saw me and say that I never lose.

    Before I played poker I used to play some blackjack and in between hands on the poker table I'd run over to the roullette table if for example black was on a good run.

    I then played two big tournaments, this cost about 600ish, I finished one place outside the money in one and was no where in the other. I went to play cash gmaes and just gambled about 600-700 away on tilt.

    I went through a phase where money was completely worthless, on a bus one day talking to some guys in college, one guy mentioned his parents were giving him less money, and how he was 60 euro in debt(!), i nonchalantly told him I'd lost 1200 that weekend, but it was ok cause I'd make 1800 during the week.

    I went on a trip to a casino around that time and stayed in a hotel with a guy I met off the internet. A couple of nights in the casino and I was up a couple of thousand. I came back won night and put the cash in my suitcase, when I woke up, the cash and my roomate were gone :(

    When I went to go back to play in the fitz I went on a horrific run of cards, I lost 1k a night a couple of times, I kept getting extemely unlucky, like all-in with a straight in a €800 pot against two guys with two pair and one of the hitting a house etc.

    One night I sat down with my last four hundrd of back roll, I was down to fifty but ended up even for the night. The poker ends at seven in the morning, so I headed over for some roullette and picked up a few quid.

    Then the punto table beckoned, I employed a simple strategy, you either bet on the bank or punto, it's close to 50/50, I martingaled my bets, I bet 10 if I lost I bet 20, then forty etc. Pretty quickly i turned my 400 into close to 1k.

    Then it happened, I lost my 10, then 20, then 40, then 80, then 160, I can't lost the next one I thought, and moved all in for my last 320. boom, busto.

    I used my last bit of change to catch the bus home. This was in dec.

    I then borrowed 500 to play on the internet, I started of at the lowest levels of .10/.20 before building up to a 6k bankroll within two months to play 1/2nl.

    But since feb I've just been losing.

    I busted my bankroll on one site doing flips, where everyone just sat at a table goinf all-in every hand regardless of cards, I built up a huge stack but lost it all. I got such a buzz out of the gambooling it didn't matter.

    Below is a link to a graph of my winnings, excluded is 2k in tournament winnings, and another 2k in rakeback and bonus'.

    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/phantom_lord1983/boring2.jpg

    this is a graph from last night

    I also have a ticket for the irish open on friday, worth 3.5k, I don't know if I'm good enough to cash, it might just be a waste of money.

    I'm beginning to doubt I can make money at poker, I'm also beginning to suspect the site I play on is rigged to induce more action and generate rake.
    I sometimes wonder if I should just quit and get a job like "normal" people.

    I'm well known among some of my friends for my hefty gambling habits, one of them handed me a pamphlet from gamblers anonymous, you know the one saying if you can tick 7 out of these 30 boxes you have a problem? I could tick nearly all the boxes. A blog containing the whole jouney is linked in my sig.

    do I need help?


    cliff notes: I've just turned 19 and I've won and lost vast quanties of cash. am i a sick degenerate?

    MOVE UP LEVELS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    i know i sound like im trying to talk you into keep wasting your money but it sounds like your just in need of strict financial planning if your earning 50an hour on average then 20 goes to your bankroll and 30 into your pocket or something along those lines................treat it as work and work to live dont live to work and youll be fine


    if you keep up the levels of other gambling then you will keep coming back to this place time and time again

    ot; that hotel room story is amazing...........its like out of a film lol.............even leaving aside the fact you had enough money to put in a suitcase


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    PeakOutput wrote:
    it sounds to me like your on the cusp of being a very succesful player but you need to sort out your habit of wasting your winnings on other gambling.

    Exactly. People make the mistake of thinking that poker is gambling. It's not. Poker is too things, statistics and pshychology. If you good then your good.

    But you need to realise that you have to play for profit, not for the thrill of it. That way lies the gutter.

    So all you need to do is decide if your a gambler or a poker player. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    you should really try to read this book its called "lol Donkaments" and is written by a poker player in America called Bartholomew Greenstein, he is a very successful player and i used this to get my poker playing back on track. i think its on amazon although i got it cheap on Ebay...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,914 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Is this a joke? Either way:

    Move up Levels.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    sounds like your confidence is shot to bits and you have no chance in the Irish Open

    I'll do you a favour and buy that ticket off you for 500 quid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Unhelpful and off-topic posting will get you banned from this forum.
    Do take time to read the charter which contains the rules and abide by them.
    Have a nice day.
    Thaedydal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    You need to sort out the basics - skill/qualification, job, house, partner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    i hope your reported your robbery to the police too. IT seems like so logn as you still enjoy it and your makign money (or not losing it you should move up levels)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    kincsem wrote:
    You need to sort out the basics - skill/qualification, job, house, partner


    i agree to an extent i dont see any reason why you cannt make a very good living(for a student) from poker and still do well in college but you really need to sort out the rest of your gambling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Most compulsive gamblers will answer 'yes' to at least seven of these questions...
    1 Do you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? Yes
    2 Is gambling ever made your home life unhappy? No
    3 Is gambling affecting your reputation? Never had a good one to start with.
    4 Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? not remorse, just pissed off.
    5 Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties? it would be rude not too.
    6 Does gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency? No
    7 After losing do you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses? Yes
    8 After a win do you have a strong urge to return and win more? Nope
    9 Do you often gamble until your last dollar was gone? Yes
    10 Have you ever borrowed to finance your gambling? Not yet, i am on the phone to ocean finance now though.
    11 Have you ever sold any real or personal property to finance gambling? No
    12 Are you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures? No
    13 Does gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family? Huh?
    14 Have you ever gamble longer than you had planned? Yes
    15 Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble? Only money trouble.
    16 Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling? Not yet, but now that oyu mention it..
    17 Does gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? It hardly to sleep during a game of poker at 4am so yes.
    18 Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble? No
    19 Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling? Yes
    20 Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling? No


    What do i win?

    Pokerstars is rigged. Never using it again. Give up the mickey mouse roullete and blackjack. Its a mugs game.

    Next time you go to a casino just have 50 in your pocket and leave all bank stuff at home. Then just use the 50 for poker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    From the sounds of things you've little/ nothing in your life bar gamling. Where do you see yourself a year from now, a college drop out, where the only people you call friends are those sitting across a poker table from you or the guys down the bookies aways lookign for a tip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    Most people really shouldnt play poker, decide yourself wheither you are most people or not. I would imagie from your post that continuing with poker is a very bad idea for you. Start going to college and chalk the last year up to experience. My last year in college I made 50k playing poker but I still qualified with a 2:1 and held down a part time job to keep some sense of reality. You seem consumed quit now and get your life back on track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Boston wrote:
    From the sounds of things you've little/ nothing in your life bar gamling. Where do you see yourself a year from now, a college drop out, where the only people you call friends are those sitting across a poker table from you or the guys down the bookies aways lookign for a tip?


    Well since the post is exclusively about my gambling it's not surprising that it gives that impression, I can assure you that is not the case.

    A year from now i see myself, in second year in college, and playing higher levels and making more money than at present.

    I have many friends outside poker tyvm ;)

    I also happen to have met a lot of people through poker, it's a very social game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Most people really shouldnt play poker, decide yourself wheither you are most people or not. I would imagie from your post that continuing with poker is a very bad idea for you. Start going to college and chalk the last year up to experience. My last year in college I made 50k playing poker but I still qualified with a 2:1 and held down a part time job to keep some sense of reality. You seem consumed quit now and get your life back on track.

    Well I have gotten back on top of college, top of the class in my last exam (ship it!)

    I am a fairly burnt out and frustrated atm, hopefully I'll cash this weekend and I'll end up taking a decent break.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Well since the post is exclusively about my gambling it's not surprising that it gives that impression, I can assure you that is not the case.

    A year from now i see myself, in second year in college, and playing higher levels and making more money than at present.

    I have many friends outside poker tyvm ;)

    I also happen to have met a lot of people through poker, it's a very social game.


    ok so that part of your life is great............

    now sort out the mugs game gambling you do on top of that and you are laughing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    Well I have gotten back on top of college, top of the class in my last exam (ship it!)

    I am a fairly burnt out and frustrated atm, hopefully I'll cash this weekend and I'll end up taking a decent break.

    Just be careful, the one thing that really struck me about the poker circuit and particularly Vegas is that there are so many players who kill poker but lose there bollox on house games. I know of at least 5 players with career winnings of over a million who havent a pot to piss in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    after I busted in that punto game :rolleyes: , I pretty much swore never to play a house game again, that was last year. other than 2 redbirds when black was on a run I've stayed away...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    You say you're making alot of money, what's your gross revenue like at say the end of the month? If you're wining 7 grand one week only to loose 8k the next, you're not exactly onto a winner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Boston wrote:
    You say you're making alot of money, what's your gross revenue like at say the end of the month? If you're wining 7 grand one week only to loose 8k the next, you're not exactly onto a winner.
    well obviously.


    It fluctuates wildly tho, and I don't really have enough results to give an good approximation of it.

    for about a month in the summer it was about 1k a week I think, in the fitz it was comfortably over 1200 a week on avg over about 6weeks.

    the last couple of months before the downswing something like $500 a week I think.

    that's off the top of my head tho, but it wouldn't be too far off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    My comments on the opening post:
    • You won on the horses, but did not say what you knew that others did not know. I suspect it was luck.
    • You play blackjack, roulette, and house card games. These have a fixed percentage edge for the house. The more you play, the more you lose.
    • You accepted a 50/50 bet from a drunk. What was your edge? Or did he have an edge?
    • When you returned to college you played poker every night, and didn't turn up to lectures. Your poker is costing you more than cash. It is costing you future cash.
    • You rush over to the roulette table and bet on black if black was on a good run. Previous results do not affect the present bet in house games.
    • Your simple Punto strategy of doubling your bets if you lose does not change the fact that the odds are against you. There are no systems to beat the house (or in horseracing).
    • Many people who lose on online poker suspect the sites are rigged. That is a bit like betting shop punters who shout at the jockeys on the TV.
    I think you can make money on horseracing, but you need to do a lot of research. I have spent 13 years researching horse pedigrees (few do). This gives me a small edge in about 1% of races. I never bet on the other 99%.

    I am playing in the Irish Open. I paid €3,500 cash as I failed to win a ticket in a satellite. Most players in Dublin will think this is a crazy gamble for a player with my skill level, and I have won many tournaments in the Dublin clubs. If I get knocked out early I won't play in cash games. I'll go home and watch the US Masters golf on the TV. It is not easy to finish in the top 10% in this tournament. You are playing against the best in the world.

    I'm 56, retired with a pension, house with no mortgage, no borrowings, car, and about €35k in the bank. I wouldn't borrow to play.

    See if you can restrict you poker to your summer holidays, and perhaps one night on the weekend (Friday or Saturday) after you complete your study.

    What I fear is you will get to 22 or 23 years old with debts, and without a skill or qualification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    well obviously.


    It fluctuates wildly tho, and I don't really have enough results to give an good approximation of it.

    for about a month in the summer it was about 1k a week I think, in the fitz it was comfortably over 1200 a week on avg over about 6weeks.

    the last couple of months before the downswing something like $500 a week I think.

    that's off the top of my head tho, but it wouldn't be too far off.

    So you recon you're coming out with 500 a week, how many hours you putting in each week, how much stress and strain is it putting on you? Is it worth that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    most students live off 100 a week plus accomadation.........i will make a wild guess and say your accomadion is either paid for or you live with yourparents......if that is the case can you not cut back your gambling to 0 and you poker to only enough to let you earn 200 a week......make your sole aim of poker between now and summer holidays to earn 200 a week not to build your bankroll. this will take more discipline than sitting down until your minted or broke i reckon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Boston wrote:
    So you recon you're coming out with 500 a week, how many hours you putting in each week, how much stress and strain is it putting on you? Is it worth that?
    poker is usually pretty fun, I dunno how many hours, 25 maybe? depends. haven;t been playing a t all recently.

    not really putting much stress on me, it's fun most the time tbh.

    except when this happens...


    Full Tilt Poker Game #2132320497: Table Corsaire (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:18:39 ET - 2007/04/03
    Seat 1: xxLuckyStrike ($81.55)
    Seat 2: RunyonAve ($109.90)
    Seat 3: JODY718 ($196.80)
    Seat 4: USMC_MRJD ($55), is sitting out
    Seat 5: La Jolla Shores ($94.50)
    Seat 6: poor_people_lol ($100.30)
    La Jolla Shores posts the small blind of $0.50
    poor_people_lol posts the big blind of $1
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to poor_people_lol [Tc Qh]
    xxLuckyStrike adds $6
    xxLuckyStrike folds
    RunyonAve folds
    JODY718 folds
    La Jolla Shores raises to $3
    USMC_MRJD has returned
    poor_people_lol has 15 seconds left to act
    poor_people_lol calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [7c Td Qs]
    La Jolla Shores bets $6
    poor_people_lol raises to $18
    La Jolla Shores raises to $60
    poor_people_lol raises to $97.30, and is all in
    La Jolla Shores calls $31.50, and is all in
    poor_people_lol shows [Tc Qh]
    La Jolla Shores shows [Qc As]
    Uncalled bet of $5.80 returned to poor_people_lol
    *** TURN *** [7c Td Qs] [8s]
    *** RIVER *** [7c Td Qs 8s] [Ah]
    poor_people_lol shows two pair, Queens and Tens
    La Jolla Shores shows two pair, Aces and Queens
    La Jolla Shores wins the pot ($186) with two pair, Aces and Queens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $189 | Rake $3
    Board: [7c Td Qs 8s Ah]
    Seat 1: xxLuckyStrike didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: RunyonAve didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: JODY718 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: USMC_MRJD is sitting out
    Seat 5: La Jolla Shores (small blind) showed [Qc As] and won ($186) with two pair, Aces and Queens
    Seat 6: poor_people_lol (big blind) showed [Tc Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens


    although that's balanced when this happens...


    Holdem No Limit - $2 BB

    Button ($278.25) [Shane]
    SB ($105.46)
    BB ($172.27)
    UTG ($230.25)
    MP ($277)
    CO ($200)

    Shane is Button with Ac, As
    Preflop: (6 players, $3)
    2 folds, CO raises $2, Shane calls $4, SB calls $3 and raises $101.46 and is All-In, BB folds, CO calls $101.46, Shane calls $101.46 and raises $172.79 and is All-In, CO calls $94.54 and is All-In

    Flop: 2s, 4h, Ah ($583.71)

    Turn: 7d ($583.71)

    River: 2c ($583.71)

    Results: Shane has Ac, As
    SB has Th, Kh
    CO has 9c, 9h
    Shane wins $583.71 with Full House : Aces full of 2s


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭latenia


    Hand histories on Personal Issues :eek: Now I've seen it all.

    Seriously though, you have to give up all table games immediately-it's been said already but worth repeating-you cannot win at these. Start to keep detailed, honest financial records and give yourself 3 months to show a profit. If that's not happening then quit.


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