Irish army weapons

cushtac · 31-07-2006 09:08PM

muletide wrote:

not now but as soon as i have worn the new armour on operations i will let you know what i think of it. as opposed to just speculate about what its like. Walter

Funnily enough I didn't speculate on what the new armour is like, I actually questioned how someone could do so after only seeing a picture of it. So you might want to actually read something before passing comment on it.

As for me being a walter, I sell this stuff for a living so I have to know what I'm talking about. I've supplied vests to Gardai, security companies and to the likes of journalists & business people who are operating in dangerous parts of the world. It's not waltering if it's part of your job.

Mick86 · 31-07-2006 09:59PM

Maskhadov wrote:

Yes they are totally different. Flak jackets are an earlier invention. They didnt have steel plates or kevlar. They were just designed to stop or slow down peices of flak or secondary splinters from killing you. These secondary splinters usually were flying at a lower velocity. A bullet will pass right through two sides of a flak jacket no problem.

Body armour as its name suggests will stop a certain amount of ball amunition.

Body armour is just a modern term for flak jacket. Flak jackets now come with little pouches on chest and back where you can slip in a kevlar plate. They'll save your life if the enemy hits the plate although I wouldn't put any money on one stopping a .5 round or even a 7.62 at close range.

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Vietnam era flak jacket

Modern flak jacket with the pouch for the plate evident.

GerryRyan · 01-08-2006 10:43PM

Bren LMG .303(light machine gun in use by rdf only)

You would think that by now these would be de-commisioned. I'm in the RDF, and we have to know how to disassemble and clean this gun. We won't even be firing them because the ammo isn't being produced anymore (but feel free to correct me on that).
In any other country these guns would be in museums or something; but in Ireland it's just a case of "sure feck it, just give them to the FCA/RDF"

/rant over

Maskhadov · 01-08-2006 11:01PM

The FCA does exist anymore. There is now a reserve defence force that mirrors the permament defence force in both equipment (broadly speaking)and structure.

The Bren LMG is being phased out as part of the re-org. Most units should have access to the GPMG.

Mick86 · 02-08-2006 12:08AM

ThatGuy wrote:

Bren LMG .303(light machine gun in use by rdf only)

You would think that by now these would be de-commisioned. I'm in the RDF, and we have to know how to disassemble and clean this gun. We won't even be firing them because the ammo isn't being produced anymore (but feel free to correct me on that).
In any other country these guns would be in museums or something; but in Ireland it's just a case of "sure feck it, just give them to the FCA/RDF"

/rant over

The British Army converted them to 7.62mm and used them until quite recently.

Bam Bam · 02-08-2006 12:14AM

The Bren is a grand weapon, Its light and accurate, and easier to maintain thaen the GPMG. Its only real disadvantage is that it uses a magazine instead of a belt so its ammo, and firing rate is limited.

For sheer power the GPMG can't be beat, Its just a pain in the arse to carry.

babybundy · 02-08-2006 12:33AM

the ammo is still being made i like the bren

Latchy · 17-03-2007 08:17PM

Just like the one i am wearing in this pic.They were also quite warm in winter specialy on the early morning escorts/border patrols we used to do .

babybundy · 18-03-2007 02:51PM

i miss the old greens

Captain Chaos · 18-03-2007 03:35PM

Just a question about the new HK USP 9mm that is to become the new service pistol. Have these guns started being delivered yet and have the PDF started training with them yet?

cushtac · 18-03-2007 03:39PM

The answer is yes to both questions.

tenandtracer · 18-03-2007 03:57PM

latchyco wrote:

Just like the one i am wearing in this pic.They were also quite warm in winter specialy on the early morning escorts/border patrols we used to do .

Photo taken in Tannagh Barracks on the Monaghan Road by any chance?

babybundy · 18-03-2007 05:54PM

i was thinking of buying a h&k usp just to find up my officers

for targets of course

Latchy · 22-03-2007 09:09PM

=tenandtracer]Photo taken in Tannagh Barracks on the Monaghan Road by any chance?

If Tannagh Barracks is in Coothill and was formly a school then yes , that's the place. I was serving with the 5th/35th battalion in 1977 at the time .,,,,, How could you tell ?

Captain Chaos · 22-03-2007 09:35PM

Just found this on Wiki, it says the Ranger Wing use the P90! Is this true.
Also saw somewhere that they use the G36 also! I'm sure they get to try out these weapons from time to time but are they actually available to use by the Rangers if needed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P90

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_Rangers

testicle · 22-03-2007 09:51PM

Yes

Irish_Army01 · 01-04-2007 10:45PM

Captain Chaos wrote:

Just found this on Wiki, it says the Ranger Wing use the P90! Is this true.
Also saw somewhere that they use the G36 also! I'm sure they get to try out these weapons from time to time but are they actually available to use by the Rangers if needed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P90

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_Rangers

Not true I'm afraid............

Sputnik · 02-04-2007 10:53AM

The rangers have access to pretty much any weapons they want. The majority are used for familiarisation purposes. If they want to use these weapons on op's they will but there not on issue as such.

Magnum · 13-04-2007 09:45PM

latchyco wrote:

Just like the one i am wearing in this pic.They were also quite warm in winter specialy on the early morning escorts/border patrols we used to do .

I remember wearing those things years ago while doing security duty on ranges,and while on duty on camps while i was in the F.C.A.

newby.204 · 14-04-2007 01:25PM

Irish_Army01 wrote:

Not true I'm afraid............

Quite true im afraid, if it exists they can try it out and keep it if they like it as there own!!

elvis jaffacake · 17-04-2007 04:12AM

newby.204 wrote:

Quite true im afraid, if it exists they can try it out and keep it if they like it as there own!!

I'm pretty sure bordering on the certain, that the wing do not have the P90...

babybundy · 17-04-2007 03:17PM

elvis jaffacake wrote:

I'm pretty sure bordering on the certain, that the wing do not have the P90...

rangers do but not on standard issue
scroll down
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_Rangers#Weapons

Steyr · 18-04-2007 12:12AM

elvis jaffacake wrote:

I'm pretty sure bordering on the certain, that the wing do not have the P90...

Id say there is alot of stuff they have that we dont know about and frankly for that i will sleep soundly.

newby.204 · 18-04-2007 09:41PM

elvis jaffacake wrote:

I'm pretty sure bordering on the certain, that the wing do not have the P90...

Unless your in the pdf, or in the wing?? (which if you are i doubt youll say you are) how could you be certain that they dont have?? im not going to get into a debaqte and points match im 100% sure they have it and if you say different then fair enough

elvis jaffacake · 19-04-2007 06:07AM

babybundy wrote:

rangers do but not on standard issue
scroll down
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_Rangers#Weapons

No offence but Wikipedia wouldn't be my first choice for information on the Wing:)

elvis jaffacake · 19-04-2007 06:09AM

newby.204 wrote:

Unless your in the pdf, or in the wing?? (which if you are i doubt youll say you are) how could you be certain that they dont have?? im not going to get into a debaqte and points match im 100% sure they have it and if you say different then fair enough

Ok, we'll have to agree to disagree;)

elvis jaffacake · 19-04-2007 06:10AM

Steyr wrote:

Id say there is alot of stuff they have that we dont know about and frankly for that i will sleep soundly.

Their armoury is quite impressive, they get stuff all the time to evaluate, and no I'm not one of "them"

Steyr · 19-04-2007 03:23PM

Dont they use "recovered":D Weapons too? I remember watching a DF vid on them playing "enemy" for a Tactical Video and it showed guys with M16's??

cushtac · 19-04-2007 04:54PM

Steyr wrote:

Dont they use "recovered":D Weapons too? I remember watching a DF vid on them playing "enemy" for a Tactical Video and it showed guys with M16's??

They were either confiscated weapons or ones gotten for evaluation or familiarisation.

elvis jaffacake · 19-04-2007 08:52PM

Steyr wrote:

Dont they use "recovered":D Weapons too? I remember watching a DF vid on them playing "enemy" for a Tactical Video and it showed guys with M16's??

You name it, they probably have it, they are in the process now of replacing a few of the weapons they use, Apparently the Steyr A2 is being replaced by the A3 and the H&K 33s1 is being replaced by a new rifle...

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