St Patricks Day is Crap Thread.

metrovelvet · 17-03-2007 04:49PM

How funny - the most famous man in Irish history was an Italian.

Max_Damage · 17-03-2007 05:06PM

metrovelvet wrote:

How funny - the most famous man in Irish history was an Italian.

He was Welsh actually.

Thrill · 17-03-2007 05:32PM

metrovelvet wrote:

How funny - the most famous man in Irish history was an Italian.

The most famous man in German history is Austrian (Hitler)
The most famous man in American history is Spanish (Columbus)
The most famous man in Lunar history is American (Armstrong):)

I don't care where he came from. I can stay in bed on Monday.

Thank you St Patrick.

toiletduck · 17-03-2007 05:37PM

I hate this day.

Bah work in a few hours

wow sierra · 17-03-2007 06:40PM

Get a f&cking life people - seize the day etc etc etc.

Its an extra day off work loads of parades, endless sport, music in pubs, some people are walking from Howth to Dun Laoghaire along the coast to collect money for aware.

Theres a whole world out there - stop whingeing. Actually why am I wasting time here? Byeee:)

ODS · 17-03-2007 07:32PM

I just wasted 4 hours in the vain hope that Ireland would win the 6 Nations, only for another McDowell prick to wreck my day in the last minute :mad:

Sums up my Patricks day.

WindSock · 17-03-2007 08:17PM

iguana wrote:

Listen to ye all complaining about getting a holiday. Wait until you are working in a foreign country and have to go to work on the day for no extra pay, then you'll have something to complain about.

Other countries have their equivalents.

Esmereldina · 17-03-2007 09:00PM

boreds wrote:

Other countries have their equivalents.

Yep, loads more holidays in Italy, and apart from Saints' days they celebrate much more wholesome things like Liberation Day (April 25) and Day of the Republic (June 2). None of this shamrock/green wearing/parading/general bad taste mostly dominated by dodgy American ideas of Irishness :rolleyes:

Volvoboy · 17-03-2007 09:14PM

I'm proud and glad to be Irish but i dont need to go into town and get rat arsed and get into fights with other rat arsed Irish men, as a poster said before sieze the day, finally got around to service me car would'nt have the time if it wasnt St Every-muppet-goes-into-town-get-pissed-and-gets-into-fights-and-wakes-in-fitzgibbon-st-garda-station-wondering-what-happned Day.

-VB-

Seth Brundle · 17-03-2007 10:15PM

boreds wrote:

Paddies day is crap. Why anyone would want to celebrate Catholicism in Ireland goes beyond me. Baa slumbug.

Saint Patrick didn't have anything to do with Catholicism - it was Christianity that he brought to Ireland, not Catholicism (which didn't exist)!

Slow coach wrote:

And there was I thinking it was celebrating alcoholism...

No thats just a side effect of the event

bluto63 wrote:

Who cares what Paddys day stands for, it makes people happy and that's all that matters.

Quite right! But don't forget that the alcohol often plays a part in that

arbeitsscheuer wrote:

The fact that you very rarely see the actual Cross of St. Patrick anywhere on Paddies Day pretty much says it all about the occasion IMO.
If it was really about celebrating St Patrick, I wouldn't mind. As it is it's just an excuse (as if one were needed for our lot) to get tanked, sing loud vaguely Anglophobic songs and basically behave like massive children for an entire day. With shamrocks. Lots of shamrocks.

Unbelievably fúcking stupid.

I haven't heard any 'Anglophobic' songs today. IN fact I can't remember the last time I heard one.
I do love mentioning the Irish element of the Union Jack to British people (who are generally dumbstruck when they find out)!

17-03-2007 10:20PM

Max_Damage wrote:

He was Welsh actually.

From an area of what is now part of the English midlands (near Daventry) alledgely!

Just down the road from where I used to live

YeatsCounty · 17-03-2007 11:23PM

St. Patrick's Day can be utter crap if you fall foul of the pissheads who just want to get completely wasted and annoy/agitate people for no reason. Getting wasted is fine, I do it myself but I keep to myself (or to my group of friends) when I do so. I don't go looking for fights and I try not to annoy people by talking crap to them.

A good Paddy's Day for me is going to a nice pub with a group of friends or just staying in with said friends. A rockin' Paddy's Day is not important at all to me (I didn't celebrate it at all until last year) but if I do decide to do something on that day, having fun with friends is what I'm aiming for. I was supposed to do that with friends today but my stomach and intestines have decided to annex themselves from my body.

Word of warning: swiftly consumed Harp lager immediately followed by a chicken schwarma can lead to bad results........ My Paddy's Day is over. :-/ At least I got to see the rugby.

Deleted User wrote:

This one has to take the buscuit, Breakfast by post!!
http://www.shopirish.com/irish/HolidaysOccasions_C6/St-Patricks-Day_6D/Food_6D5/Item_A-Bit-of-Each-Traditional-Irish-Breakfast_FL310.html

I don't think its neccessarily silly. Just like iguana said, it can be quite difficult to get what us Irish would call 'good quality' sausages and rashers in North America (depending on where you live). Sure, sausages to us are merely breakfast sausages over here in my experience and rashers = thin strips of bacon, which are damn good on a burger or in a BLT but not too great for a full Irish.

And as for missing the eggs? Sending eggs by post is just absurd.

</me senses a market>

nesf · 17-03-2007 11:58PM

kbannon wrote:

I haven't heard any 'Anglophobic' songs today. IN fact I can't remember the last time I heard one.
I do love mentioning the Irish element of the Union Jack to British people (who are generally dumbstruck when they find out)!

There were a couple played in the bar I was in earlier, but it was the Welsh guys who requested them.

Apart from that, it's the people who really have drunk far too much that get to me. There are always a couple around on a night out but it's hard to escape them on Paddy's day and I like being able to move around in a pub without feeling like I'm between two angry rugby packs.

InFront · 18-03-2007 03:43AM

Well it was a great day sports wise (for ireland). But yeah not a fan of patricks day. There is so much more to Ireland than shamrocks and alcohol. Not enough people know that. I hear the parade was good though.

Xavi6 · 18-03-2007 09:44AM

Well I had the best Paddy's Day ever and that's probably cause it was the first one I didn't spend in Ireland. Perth WA was buzzing. Started drinking with breakfast at half 9 and went for the day. There's a great Irish bar here and they closed off the street outside. Everyone was just on a good buzz and there wasn't an ounce of trouble. My opinion on the day has completely changed.

Sarky · 18-03-2007 04:38PM

YeatsCounty wrote:

Getting wasted is fine,

This is where your whole argument falls apart, like so much plane-enriched skyscraper.

Curse St. Patrick's day. It made cafés open for business yesterday and led me to thinking they'd be open again today. I wanted pancakes and bacon, damn it.

YeatsCounty · 18-03-2007 06:26PM

Sarky wrote:

This is where your whole argument falls apart, like so much plane-enriched skyscraper.

Nice symbolism..... :eek:

When I say 'wasted', I don't mean lying in the middle of the street on a pool of green vomit. That's not for me and I have been close to that a couple of times (thank God for mates). Once was because I was drinking after an all-nighter at college and another one was when I came over to Montreal and discovered pitchers.

But my original point stands, I believe. Getting 'wasted' (as in, getting quite drunk) is fine as long as you're not an annoying arse to all and sundry around you. If you keep to yourself and it's not a nightly event, then it won't bother anyone.

The Corinthian · 21-03-2007 01:54AM

Max_Damage wrote:

He was Welsh actually.

Romano-British. Wales didn't actually exist until later. Even the name Patrick, is not actually a name, but derived from the Latin Patricius, which was the Roman noble title or rank of patrician and was thus most likely a term of respect rather than his real name.

thrill wrote:

The most famous man in German history is Austrian (Hitler)

The most famous German man in non-German history, more like.

The most famous man in American history is Spanish (Columbus)

It's not actually known for certain, but by most accounts he was Italian, or more specifically Genoese.

I don't care where he came from. I can stay in bed on Monday.

Reading lots of books, no doubt.

Thrill · 21-03-2007 03:18AM

The Corinthian wrote:

Reading lots of books, no doubt.

Nah, sleeping.

Hitler was born in Austria. He is part of German history.

F**ked up with Columbus, got my countries wrong.

Point i was making was that you don't have to be born in a country to be it's most famous person.

Making a mistake doesn't mean a person doesn't read books. To insinuate otherwise is petty.

nesf · 21-03-2007 03:31AM

The Corinthian wrote:

Even the name Patrick, is not actually a name, but derived from the Latin Patricius, which was the Roman noble title or rank of patrician and was thus most likely a term of respect rather than his real name.

I disagree tbh, while Pádraig, Patrick, Patrice etc did descend from the latin "root" Patricius, your line of argument above does not immediately follow. Patrick (or Pádraig) could have existed as a name in that time period, i.e. the fifth century. Though, the name Pádraig, was not used as a personal name until the 16th/17th century, as was common with saints names (The form Giolla Pádraig etc would have been used instead). Also the whole "Two Patricks thing" comes into play with Pallidius and Patrick.

InFront · 21-03-2007 03:59AM

The Corinthian wrote:

The most famous German man in non-German history, more like.

non German history? what?

The Corinthian · 21-03-2007 09:49AM

thrill wrote:

Making a mistake doesn't mean a person doesn't read books.

No, but making an argument based upon false information and stereotypes does.

nesf wrote:

I disagree tbh, while Pádraig, Patrick, Patrice etc did descend from the latin "root" Patricius, your line of argument above does not immediately follow. Patrick (or Pádraig) could have existed as a name in that time period, i.e. the fifth century. Though, the name Pádraig, was not used as a personal name until the 16th/17th century, as was common with saints names (The form Giolla Pádraig etc would have been used instead). Also the whole "Two Patricks thing" comes into play with Pallidius and Patrick.

I never said it immediately follows, only that it was most likely – which in itself is arguable, but then again given what we ‘know’ historically about him, anything will be. I totally accept however that there are numerous theories about him.

InFront wrote:

non German history? what?

History by the Simpsons, if you will.

Ask a German who was the most famous historical German and you’re likely to get a far greater breath of responses, most likely because they’ve studied German history in far greater detail. Ask someone who’s not Irish, and assuming they know where Ireland is, you’re probably never going to hear the same responses that you’d hear from an Irishman or woman. The same could be said for an Arab who might suggest Mohammad or Saladin, while a non-Arab might be tempted to suggest Bin Laden.

What little people learn about the histories in school of other nations tends to get forgotten by their early twenties and what we are left with is typically just popular stereotype.

Of course, on a global level, this may well still constitute ‘most famous’, but it’s also history by the lowest common denominator.

Thrill · 21-03-2007 08:19PM

thrill wrote:

Making a mistake doesn't mean a person doesn't read books.

The Corinthian wrote:

No, but making an argument based upon false information and stereotypes does.

Does what? Mean i do not read books?

So, because i made an argument based on false information and stereotypes, that means that i do not read books?

That in itself is stereotyping.

You are making an argument based on false information (that i do not read books) and stereotyping me as a person who does not read books.

Using your own logic, that means you do not read books.

Do you make this assumption of everyone who makes a mistake?

Anyway, despite my error my point still stands...

You do not have to be born in a country to be it's most famous person.

.

nesf · 21-03-2007 11:56PM

Look, I'm sure both of you read plenty of books. There's no need to go on about it tbh.

BEAT · 22-03-2007 05:20AM

I do not celebrate catholicism, st patrick driving the pagans out of ireland or any other religious or leprechaunish symbolism , I simply see the day as an excuse to have drinks with my friends and take the day off from work to do it with the rest of the city.

It's a big party, chuck it up and enjoy it for what it is

Red Alert · 22-03-2007 10:21AM

Why does everyone feel the need to turn this into a catholic-religion-bashing thread? (Presumably the same people will sign up for work on Christmas day etc i'm sure)

As it happens I could never be arsed going out on paddy's day. I'm fed up of meeting scumbags and general louts and it's just not worth the hassle. I always go out the night of the fireworks but sadly not so this year.

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