Riot squad to be at Croker on Saturday

InFront · 20-02-2007 08:12PM

Right, but the decision has been made to close it off between now and completion of the redevelopment, and there are all sorts of things going on at the moment like the appeal before the Planning Board on the nature of the planning permission, particularly the height question.

The IRFU are not paying all this money to make a grand political gesture about British-Irish relations, Croke Park is being used out of practicality.

Mushy · 20-02-2007 11:06PM

Hold on a minute there, maybe I'm missing something but why did they need to use Croke park in the first place? Isn't the use of Croke park an attempt to make a cack-handed political comment in and of itself?

What exactly is a "positive statement" about the GAA accepting large sums of money to let non GAA sports be played in Croke park? Lets face it, at the end of the day there is no other reason for this decision to have gone through than enormous amounts of shiny coinage and the greed attendant with that.

Kind of odd here. No matter where the IRFU/FAI would have to play their matches, be it England, Scotland, Wales, they'd have to give over money. People appear to be against the GAA here for taken money from them, but it was going to happen anywhere.

Anyway, not too pushed about GSTQ at Croker. If there are hooligans around, it'll only make people more ashamed anyway

Dirk Gently · 21-02-2007 12:05AM

Seanies32 wrote:

Only Rugby supporters pay tax? What is Lansdowne Road being re-developed with, only rugby supporters tax too?

Think you missed my point.

Terry · 21-02-2007 12:47AM

I missed it too. What was it?

ninebeanrows · 21-02-2007 01:00AM

I also fear that there will be trouble at the match..

But what i hope to happen is a victory of sorts with the true Irish people shouting at these scumbags and pushing them away if anything gets started and i hope to god the gards start kicking lumps out of the thugs..

Any man who comes down to fight on Saturday should be kicked out of the island..

And this northy IRA/Sinn Fein March is just looking for trouble and should not be allowed considering the events in the city on the day.

Unforuntately with such a large minority of scum in our country and its every increasing numbers i fear for the worst..

Okay i can see why there might be a few boo's for the anthem in the stadium from a few ignorant souls, and that can be forgiven i suppose but any trouble by bored hooligans i expect to be dealt with sternly by the gards.

K-9 · 21-02-2007 01:01AM

clown bag wrote:

built with rugby supporters tax money.

U say I missed your point. What is it, you didn't elaborate.
All sports get lottery and govt. funding. Lansdowne Road is owned by the IRFU. The IRFU would have the say to let GAA in there just as the GAA had the say in Croker.

Dirk Gently · 21-02-2007 01:16AM

Point was that everyone pays the tax to build the stadiums so I think it's a bit rich for one organisation not to allow another organisation to use it's facilities in a time of national need. By all means the GAA should have priority, but where possible our national teams in other sports should be allowed use the stadium, unless it clashes directly with a GAA match, untill such a time that Lansdowne is developed.

PeakOutput · 21-02-2007 01:28AM

lostexpectation wrote:

well are they going to **** it as badly as they did last time, is that there plan( or did they plan that I still wonder), to leave a treaure trove of materials on the route for missiles, ?

when was the anthemn played before?

where you their last year??? coz i was and the gardai did an excellent job so unless u saw it first hand dont comment

and it was played at the special olympics as i already said in this thread

K-9 · 21-02-2007 01:30AM

clown bag wrote:

Point was that everyone pays the tax to build the stadiums so I think it's a bit rich for one organisation not to allow another organisation to use it's facilities in a time of national need. By all means the GAA should have priority, but where possible our national teams in other sports should be allowed use the stadium, unless it clashes directly with a GAA match, untill such a time that Lansdowne is developed.

That is the current situation.

patrickc · 21-02-2007 01:31AM

lostexpectation wrote:

well are they going to **** it as badly as they did last time, is that there plan( or did they plan that I still wonder), to leave a treaure trove of materials on the route for missiles, ?

the inspector told me that dunnes stores on talbot street was in for a cleanup and boyers cos they left loads of stuff out last time...

PeakOutput · 21-02-2007 01:32AM

clown bag wrote:

Point was that everyone pays the tax to build the stadiums so I think it's a bit rich for one organisation not to allow another organisation to use it's facilities in a time of national need. By all means the GAA should have priority, but where possible our national teams in other sports should be allowed use the stadium, unless it clashes directly with a GAA match, untill such a time that Lansdowne is developed.

thats exactly what is happening this argument happened 3/4years ago

but while i think it is great it is opened up the gaa deserve their stadium and deserve to do as they please with it

edit seanies got there before me

Dirk Gently · 21-02-2007 01:32AM

Seanies32 wrote:

That is the current situation.

current being the important word there. Will the situation be the same beyond 2008 or have the GAA got a cap on how many games they are allowing to be played before they ban rugby and soccer again.

PeakOutput · 21-02-2007 01:36AM

clown bag wrote:

current being the important word there. Will the situation be the same beyond 2008 or have the GAA got a cap on how many games they are allowing to be played before they ban rugby and soccer again.

i dont think so and i hope not but it is their choice and rightly so as the owners of the ground

personally i think soccer is going to be a joke in their as with the way the irish team is going the stadium will be empty

edit when lansdowne is finished the irfu wont want croke park and it will be more economical for the soccer to be played their too

Dirk Gently · 21-02-2007 02:00AM

Yeah I know soccer will be played at Lansdowne when its ready, its just the GAA aren't planning on waiting around too long. I'm a GAA fan myself and actually prefere it to rugby but I watch all three, soccer, GAA and rugby. I don't feel like something we all made happen should be witheld from a large part of the population to enjoy even if it is the home of just one organisation.

It is just my opinion as the decision rests with the GAA, I just think that should Lansdowne not be ready in time and the GAA re-ban rugby and soccer before it is (2008 is the GAA deadline) that decision will have short changed a lot of tax payers.

PeakOutput · 21-02-2007 02:10AM

clown bag wrote:

Yeah I know soccer will be played at Lansdowne when its ready, its just the GAA aren't planning on waiting around too long. I'm a GAA fan myself and actually prefere it to rugby but I watch all three, soccer, GAA and rugby. I don't feel like something we all made happen should be witheld from a large part of the population to enjoy even if it is the home of just one organisation.

It is just my opinion as the decision rests with the GAA, I just think that should Lansdowne not be ready in time and the GAA re-ban rugby and soccer before it is (2008 is the GAA deadline) that decision will have short changed a lot of tax payers.

i agree with you that it should be opened up and stay opened and i really dont think they are going to close the gates in 2008 no matter what happens

HOWEVER if it was not for the gaa we would not have a stadium of anywere near that quality and they deserve alot of respect from that point of view........

im not a gaa man by the way but alot of my family are

Peyton Manning · 21-02-2007 09:15AM

Yes, the genuine rugby fans wont cause trouble, but what worries me is this: I know 4 people who've been to every Ireland 6 nations match, home and away, for the past 4 years, and I know a further 7 people who've been to every home 6 nations match in that time too. Not one of them could get their hands on a ticket for this match. Theres obviously those coming for the occasion 'Well its the English, and its croke park....'

Unpossible · 21-02-2007 09:35AM

robinph wrote:

And having to of played "home" games in Cardiff when a perfectly adequate stadium sits empty back in Dublin wouldn't have given anyone a reason to laugh at at the Irish all now would it?

Thats how I always felt. We have a fantastic stadium yet our close neighbours have never seen it.

On another note does anyone remember when American Football was played there ten or more years ago

shane86 · 21-02-2007 11:06AM

Unpossible wrote:

Thats how I always felt. We have a fantastic stadium yet our close neighbours have never seen it.

On another note does anyone remember when American Football was played there ten or more years ago

What the gah doesnt want to highlight is that "foreign sports" actually means "English invented sport". I doubt they even bothered holding a vote for American football, or Muhammed Alis fight in the 70s, or the special olympics or any of the other occasional events held there.

I doubt there will be booing, rugby fans simply arent the type. And I really doubt that the skangers and wannabe ra men cared so much they block booked huge sections of croker for a ruck.

Seth Brundle · 21-02-2007 11:21AM

FFS - people getting worked up over a Sex Pistols song?

robinph · 21-02-2007 11:23AM

shane86 wrote:

What the gah doesnt want to highlight is that "foreign sports" actually means "English invented sport". I doubt they even bothered holding a vote for American football, or Muhammed Alis fight in the 70s, or the special olympics or any of the other occasional events held there.

Wouldn't boxing come under the English invented sports catergory though with the Queensberry rules? I guess they just ignored that "foreign sports" ruling temporarily for Ali then.

Bren1609 · 21-02-2007 02:47PM

Anyway, the original point was about the riot police. Rumour has it that combat 18 is coming over for a ruck this weekend. I think we should be more concerned about them. I think the that the D4 West Brit rugby fans are getting carried away with themselves when the speak about all the Ra heads and scum bags. When have Irish soccer or GAA fans ever started a riot home or abroad? Calm down lads it's North Dublin not Baghdad.

yayamark · 21-02-2007 02:54PM

a lot of people getting excited over nothing!

nothing is going to happen only a good rugger game

thelordofcheese · 21-02-2007 03:56PM

Archimedes wrote:

Yes, the genuine rugby fans wont cause trouble, but what worries me is this: I know 4 people who've been to every Ireland 6 nations match, home and away, for the past 4 years, and I know a further 7 people who've been to every home 6 nations match in that time too. Not one of them could get their hands on a ticket for this match. Theres obviously those coming for the occasion 'Well its the English, and its croke park....'

I think my brother is going mainly for the 'Well its the English, and its croke park....' factor, but also given how abysmal sligo are in the GAA it's probably the only time he'll get to be inside croker.

21-02-2007 04:02PM

kbannon wrote:

FFS - people getting worked up over a Sex Pistols song?

Hah Hah Hah.

Excellent.

lostexpectation · 21-02-2007 04:34PM

Bren1609 wrote:

Anyway, the original point was about the riot police. Rumour has it that combat 18 is coming over for a ruck this weekend. I think we should be more concerned about them. I think the that the D4 West Brit rugby fans are getting carried away with themselves when the speak about all the Ra heads and scum bags. When have Irish soccer or GAA fans ever started a riot home or abroad? Calm down lads it's North Dublin not Baghdad.

and where's that rumour coming from, do they still call themselves combat18?

or combat 18 Rugger division?

arn't they supposed to be loads of website chat occuring or planning that show trouble is obvious like last time

Cake Fiend · 21-02-2007 04:37PM

Bren1609 wrote:

When have Irish soccer or GAA fans ever started a riot home or abroad?

As mentioned several times already in the thread, it's not the sports fans you need to worry about - it's all the little scangers in Dublin just waiting for an excuse to stir some poo that's the problem.

super_furry · 21-02-2007 04:44PM

The funny thing is, there was no-one complaining three years ago when God Save the Queen was played in Croke Park during the Special Olympics.

daveirl · 21-02-2007 05:20PM

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csk · 21-02-2007 05:28PM

super_furry wrote:

The funny thing is, there was no-one complaining three years ago when God Save the Queen was played in Croke Park during the Special Olympics.

Can anyone confirm that this is actually true ?

Seth Brundle · 21-02-2007 05:46PM

Eddie O'Sullivan believes it to be the case...

EOS wrote:

"With regards to the anthems, they have always been respected at Lansdowne Road. Our anthem has been respected wherever we've gone, and we hope that will be reciprocated.

'God Save the Queen' was respected the last time it was played at Croke Park, at the Special Olympics three years ago."

src: http://www.irishrugby.ie/283_7441.php

Riot squad to be at Croker on Saturday

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