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Sis thinks I've a drink problem

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  • #32
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Pepper, you posted a thread recently in AH about how you were trying to give up drinking, but were going to a wedding with a free bar and you couldn't imagine how you'd manage. If I remember correctly, you gave in and got shít faced. Now you're saying you drink 10 cans in one night. Yes, you have an alcohol problem. You abuse it.

    I'd have passed out after 6 cans.


  • #33
    Jaxon Nervous Mill
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jaxon Nervous Mill


    redzerdrog wrote:
    its not a month off the beer that id worry about but a month of sitting in on a saturday night would drive me mental. i am not someone who drinks at home or anything like that. I drink fairly heavely in pubs and clubs at the weekends and that but thats only if i have no football so i dont really see it as a problem for me.
    Here's a novel idea - find something else to do on a saturday night.
    Go to the movies, go out for a meal, go bowling, go to a concert.
    Why why why do people think the only things to do on a saturday are getting hammered or being bored?
    Does pepper have multiple accounts or something. Im confused now. Pepper is the op and redzerdrog is talking as if theyre the op
    No I think red was chiming in because red drinks a similar amount. Which is also bad.
    The sooner people learn that having fun does not depend on alcohol and that there are actually other things to do, the better.


  • #34
    Beruthiel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,361 ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    pepper wrote:
    now the weekend gone i had 18 cans and a bottle of wine(friday night)

    I like my drink.
    The full bottle of wine I could just about do, but it would be all I could take. And I would pay for it the next day.
    The 18 cans on top of it would be insane and to drink that amount in one night while at home watching the tv is something you should indeed be questioning.
    A body cannot take that, even on a weekly basis. You need to drastically cut back, if you can't do that, then as others have suggested, take a month off.


  • #35
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    bluewolf wrote:
    Here's a novel idea - find something else to do on a saturday night.
    Go to the movies, go out for a meal, go bowling, go to a concert.
    Why why why do people think the only things to do on a saturday are getting hammered or being bored?

    The sooner people learn that having fun does not depend on alcohol and that there are actually other things to do, the better.


    FINALLY, someone with a good bit of sense... now where'd i put my replicator gun...

    *searches*


  • #36
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,392 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Hiya pepper,

    Have a look at this article from the BBC.

    My advice would be that you should give up alcohol for one month altogether. You and the bf. Go to the cinema or bowling each night of the weekend, just get out of the house and stay away from any pubs/clubs/places that serve alcohol.

    If you can manage one-month totally free of alcohol and without any difficulty then that's okay. If you find yourself wishing you could have a pint, or can't resist nipping out to the off-license then you do have a problem.

    Apart from that, cutting out booze for a while is great for your body, gives it a rest :)

    Lastly, go to a doctor and ask for some information and a health check-up.


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  • #37
    dellas1979
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    Are you serious?

    Sorry, you need to clarify what you drank Fri, Sat and Sunday. Some of us are confused here.

    Sound like youve come to a point of clarity. Its not good for you to be doing this all the time - especially with this volume of alcohol. At least the alcohol hasnt killed your cop-on yet.............

    Maybe drink one night and be dry the rest?

    You are a student arent you?

    You sound a little conceited about this also, like there is medal to be won or show how cool you are.


  • #38
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Pepper on a practical note, what do you get out of 18 cans that you can't get out of 5 or 6? Are you not buzzed after the first few? maybe you could limit yourself to six cans over the weekend, would that be a problem?


  • #39
    HelterSkelter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭HelterSkelter


    Decide for yourself....
    http://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/opencontent/default.asp?itemid=14&section=About+Us wrote:
    Are You An Alcoholic?
    Only You Can Decide
    To answer this question ask yourself the following questions and answer them as honesty as you can.

    Is drinking making your home life unhappy?
    Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare?
    Do you drink because you are shy with other people?
    Is drinking affecting your reputation?
    Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble?
    Do you drink alone?
    Have you lost time from work due to drinking?
    Has your ambition decreased since drinking?
    Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?
    Is drinking jeopardising your job or business?
    Have you ever felt remorse after drinking?
    Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?
    Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking?
    Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?
    Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
    Do you want a drink the next morning?
    Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?
    Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?
    Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking?
    Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?


  • #40
    NutJob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭NutJob


    I come from a background with an alcaholic parent and i was for a number of years a very heavy drinker.

    Contact your GP as if you even have to ask the question is my drinking a problem then it is.


  • #41
    kevmy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    Right I'm a pretty big guy in his early 20's, student, single and enjoy going out. So I'm probably at my peak drinking for my life. I went to house party last Friday and had what I would describe as a lot of drink. This involved a bottle of Buckfast and 6 cans. Now when I'd go out I would usually not drink than much. The only time in recent memory that I drank an amount larger than that was at the xmas party. There I had 14 pints, a glass of wine and 3 jeigerbombs over the space of about 12 hours and after a massive dinner.

    So putting what you did in context my large amount of alcohol on friday night is only regular for you. My biggest amount for a year was still easily less than what you did last Friday night. Kepp in mind I'm a guy and can, because of pure biology, handle more than a girl. So I would mirror some of the advice here. Cut back on your friday nights and/or go out to the cinema. Try making it 6 cans every second friday instead of ten every friday.

    Also remember you shoudn't measure your alcohol intake against guys around you (like your boyfriend) but the girls. If your regularly the biggest drinker in your group of female friends then cut back to their level.

    I'm not going to give a lecture about how drink is bad for you as we all know that or I'm not going to tell you to give up drink for a month (even though everyone should be able to do it). However I am going to say is look around you. Is everyone drinking the same amount as you? From Boards appartently not. Are you having better craic than all those around you that drink less?
    Think about this yourself and maybe you don't have a problem but you still might decide that you are drinking more than what you want to/need to. If so take on board some of the advice from here.


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  • #42
    JasonEFlood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭JasonEFlood


    Mate - I'm 6 Ft 4 and 16 Stone... 10 Cans to me is a fairly easy night... Again I dont drink that often twice a month maybe - but If I'm drinking to get drunk I'd put more then that away... In my early twenties and thru college we were all guilty of major sessions.

    If your 5ft 5 and 6 stone... seek help...

    if your 6ft 7 and 20 Stone... Plenty more room for beer...

    Although your not hooked, you are destroying your internal organs. But sure everytime you have a diet softdrink your destroying yor brain... so pick the organs you least like and destroy that one...

    (you can transplant a liver... can you transplant a brain!)***

    *** probalbly bad advice for minors....so forget I said that if your under 18!


  • #43
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,392 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    JasonEFlood wrote:
    Mate - I'm 6 Ft 4 and 16 Stone... 10 Cans to me is a fairly easy night... Again I dont drink that often twice a month maybe - but If I'm drinking to get drunk I'd put more then that away... In my early twenties and thru college we were all guilty of major sessions.

    If your 5ft 5 and 6 stone... seek help...

    if your 6ft 7 and 20 Stone... Plenty more room for beer...

    Although your not hooked, you are destroying your internal organs. But sure everytime you have a diet softdrink your destroying yor brain... so pick the organs you least like and destroy that one...

    (you can transplant a liver... can you transplant a brain!)***

    *** probalbly bad advice for minors....so forget I said that if your under 18!

    Bad advice full stop! Being 6ft 4" does not mean your liver is immune to the effects of large amounts of alcohol :rolleyes:


  • #44
    Beruthiel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,361 ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    JasonEFlood wrote:
    (you can transplant a liver... can you transplant a brain!)***

    *** probalbly bad advice for minors....so forget I said that if your under 18!

    Forget it no matter what age you are.

    Drinking on the off chance you go on a list for a possible new liver is not exactly a clever way to go about things. :rolleyes:


  • #45
    missmatty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭missmatty


    18 cans and a bottle of wine for a girl?!

    Tell us how you feel the day after that.

    I love my drink but I wouldn't be fit for anything other than bed after a bottle of wine, could just about manage that but no more. Wine is dangerous to be honest. I can't tolerate much beer so I only drink it on hols.

    Also if you calculated the amount of calories in that amount of drink it would probably be enough to feed a person for several days. A bottle of wine alone is 500-600 cals.....


  • #46
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Have you ANY idea the waiting list for those who need a liver transplant ?
    I know someone who through no fault of her own might be facing that long waiting list at the age of 18 due to cancer.
    Your drinkin patterns are taken into consideration if you need a new liver and they can tell by the damage patterns and may not get on the list if your not given enough points or you could be at the bottom of the list due to your drinking.
    Why would they give a heavy drinka new liver from someone else's untimely
    death for them to destroy all over again.

    You wnat to be an idiot and piss your life away and ruin your relationships and miss many oppertunites in life go ahead it is your body your choice, just don't expect to be given a new liver or any sympathy.
    Serios if the liver is a horrible way to do, you die raoring I know my grandfather did.


  • #47
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,922 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    The weekend you describe is certainly not normal and healthy, and it's a long time since I was able to drink anything like that one one night, however I think most of the posts here are a bit OTT to be honest. Of course alcohol abuse is a terrible thing, and there are people I work with that I tell them they drink too much as they drink maybe 5 nights a week and not small amounts, soI am not an apologist.

    However, you said that in a normal week you drink only on a friday night at home and have around 10 cans. Ok, this is a lot for a girl especially but if it is a once weekly occurance then I don't think it'll do an awful lot of harm. Personally I don't drink that often any more, but when I do (usually once every 2-3 weeks) I like to have a right go at it and usually have around 10 -12 drinks. The most I have drank recently was on a recent skiing holiday where every night for a week I had around 10 or more drinks a night. Of course this is not the most healthy thing to do but occasional bursts of it do less harm than regular drinking of 5-6 drinks a night as some people I know do.

    I am obviously in no way mediacally trained, but this whole 5 drinks is binge drinking crap is really annoying. I always stop before I get too drunk, and am one of the sensible ones who hasn't done anything stupid or embarrassing or regrettable in a long time while drunk, but when I am out I don't see the point of having 4 or 5 drinks only unless I happen to have work the next day, but I usually won't be out on a weeknight. Very rambling post, but the upshot is that if your original description of your normal drinking is accurate (i.e. once a week) then I don't see what the big deal is.


  • #48
    Celtic67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Celtic67


    OP: 18 Cans + is an unbelieveable amount of drink. However, a heavy drinker may not necessarily be a problem drinker (granted it may be an indication)
    It is my understanding that drinking is a problem when your drinking affects other aspects of your life such as work, relationships, health and financial well being. If other aspects are being seriously affected by your drinking but you continue to drink knowing this or you have no control over the amount you drink or your actions when you drink then you may indeed have a problem. If having weighed up the pros and cons of drinking ,the cons outweigh the pros, but you cannot stop then you prob have a problem.


  • #49
    ferdi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    if i drank 18 cans and a bottle of wine to myself in one sitting, i would almost certainly be hospitalized.

    i'm very fond of a drink myself but that is pure madness. how can you even keep that volume of liquid down?


  • #50
    MicraBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭MicraBoy


    pepper you posted your stats in the Fitness forum this time last year.
    pepper wrote:
    age- 20
    weight 16 stone
    height 5ft
    diet- at the moment im havn about 800 cals a day with no excerise- joining a gym soon tho

    Regardless of if you are an alcoholic, you are living a desperately unhealthy life style. Drink is one of the major factors causing your obesity. That should be a good enough reason to give up the drink permanently.


  • #51
    DaDa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭DaDa


    Pepper... you are crying out for help by posting in different forums on different issues. I suspect you have some fairly hefty self esteem issues that are resulting in you doing things that are self destructive. How you drank 1 bottle wine + 18 cans as a start to your weekend is beyond comprehension (to me anyway).

    Your best bet is to visit a *good* GP... get advice... get on a program and put the energy into changing how you are, not into binge drinking(+eating?) and wasting your life.

    Maybe people here can recommend some GPs that are good at dealing with this. The first GP visit is crucial as to how S/he handles it.

    How encouraging it might be for you to keep us posted and the sense of achievement as you post new statistics and facts month by month.

    I wish you the best of luck.


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  • #52
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    18 tins and a bottle of wine? That's impressive.


  • #53
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    no Chucky the tree it is not.


  • #54
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    in fairness, when i'm drinking and watching a film or whatever i'd have maybe 4 cans. 6 at most had i got a big night planned. stop drinking SO much. why would you feel the urge to get obliterated drunk to enjoy a quiet night in with your boyfriend?

    try to see things from your sisters point of view. i live with an alcoholic (i'm not saying you are now, before you get defensive) and having someone clattering around the house or whatever ever friday night must be great fun for hurt.

    cop on, cut back, enjoy sobriety a bit more.


  • #55
    Dr Bolouswki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Dr Bolouswki


    I dont get it? why sit in and drink that much? Surely that amount of booze would be best consumed over a 8 or 12 hour session while on a wild bender, actually experiencing soemthing crazy to go along with the crazy behaviour?

    Drugs could be an agreeable alternative - sit in on a Friday and smoke a few joints - wouldnt be anywhere near as bad for you.

    I dont drink or smoke by the way - maybe once every two months or so - but I'd usually go through similar units (spirits rather than tinker cans though = and probably no more than about 15 on a mad one) but a balance to your consumption might be a bit cool - go mental on BIG NIGHTS OUT but a regular nite in I jsut dont see the point in getting so messed up

    never mind the puritan nonsense about livers etc - yes its largely true if you maintain this consumption over time, but going a bit mental once a week is hardly a problem - and in fairness the yoghurt sprout eating motherfúckers are always gonna give you the pofaced holier than thou billox - its how they justify themselves


  • #56
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Dr Bolouswki wrote:
    never mind the puritan nonsense about livers etc - yes its largely true if you maintain this consumption over time, but going a bit mental once a week is hardly a problem - and in fairness the yoghurt sprout eating motherfúckers are always gonna give you the pofaced holier than thou billox - its how they justify themselves

    It's hardly puritan nonsense - more like scientific fact. I drink a good bit - probably more than I should but the amount she says she drinks on a regular basis is astonishing.

    Drinking that much twice a week (Friday and Saturday nights) is maintaining the level of consumption over time. Serious problems are only a few years down the line (maybe even sooner)

    10 cans a night? Ridiculous.

    I'm all for people enjoying themselves but drinking that amount on that regular of a basis is not just bad for you but it's extremely foolish.


  • #57
    Talliesin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    The 18 cans and bottle of wine aren't the real issue.

    Hell, it's probably worth going on a real bender on a very rare occassion if you can afford it (i.e. not just the money, but you aren't going to do anything stupid, don't have anywhere to be or anything important to do, and so on).

    10 cans in a night every week is not healthy though.


  • #58
    delta_bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Dr Bolouswki wrote:
    never mind the puritan nonsense about livers etc - yes its largely true if you maintain this consumption over time, but going a bit mental once a week is hardly a problem - and in fairness the yoghurt sprout eating motherfúckers are always gonna give you the pofaced holier than thou billox - its how they justify themselves

    Nonsense about livers?! It's a VITAL organ. Without it you will die. Treat it and yourself with respect


  • #59
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'Were the 18 cans you drank 500ml cans or 330ml cans?

    If they were 500ml cans you should really cut back. I am 6ft6 and 16 stone and I can easily drink stupid amounts of alcohol, but really whats the point? I am no teetotaler but **** me theres no way a female should be drinking that amount of alcohol every second weekend or whatnot, let alone a male.'


  • #60
    dRNk SAnTA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭dRNk SAnTA


    Just to underline the point of the damage you are doing to yourself: Assuming the OP is female, you are in grave risk of cirrhosis of the liver.

    http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/cirrhosisliver.htm
    The more alcohol a person drinks, the more likely they are to develop cirrhosis. Women seem to be more susceptible than men. It is therefore advisable to restrict alcohol consumption to 28 units a week for men and 21 units a week for women (a unit of alcohol is a single measure of spirits, a half pint of ordinary beer or lager or a standard size glass of wine).

    A 5ft female being able to put away 18 cans + a bottle of wine one night, and then do it all again the next night indicates a very high tolerance which would only be achieved from drinking very regularly.

    So to all the posters saying 'ah its ok if you only do it once in a while' - it is NOT ok to drink that much at any time, and it is obvious that the OP drinks a lot, regularly.

    OP, seek help.


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  • #61
    tensecyclist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭tensecyclist


    I seldom drink so I don't know the indications when you get addicted.:confused:


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