Do you want a career with that?

honru · 29-01-2007 10:41PM

I haven't seen this ad... sounds cringeworthy I must say.

I work at McDonald's. First proper job for me; I'm young still, but I could picture much worse jobs. I mean, to my mind, it would certainly be more stimulating then, say, working in a supermarket. A comparable "menial" job that probably most people, given the choice, would choose over McD's due to social stigma.

It's not something which I wish to do for the rest of my life but it has given me experience in the workplace and life in general for which I'm very grateful for.

The Sparrow · 30-01-2007 01:24AM

My favourite line in this ad is when the guy says:

"Good pay, flexible hours and the chance to develop me management skills":D

So is that McGrammar?

Sangre · 30-01-2007 01:51AM

julep wrote:

What makes you think you are too good to work for McDonalds in any capacity?
get your head out of your arse.

Yes, everyone should be happy to settle for a job that requires no decent LC (if even), degree or any experience.

Keep reaching for those stars Julep.

not entirely true. There are strict franchising rules if you open a McD's. Granted food suppliers may differ from region to region.

Franchise rules that have to work within the strict framework of Irish and EU law. Both providing very high protection for employers and health and safety.

Side note, actual franchise owners are rarely managers there (almost never), they're almost exclusive outside financiers who leave the daily business to a manager. Most owners would have never worked in McDs.

Pet · 30-01-2007 03:44AM

Yes, everyone should be happy to settle for a job that requires no decent LC (if even), degree or any experience.

Keep reaching for those stars Julep.

There's a biiiig difference between being happy to settle for a job that's way below your qualifications and/or potential, and looking down on someone else who doesn't have the choice.

zuutroy · 30-01-2007 09:28AM

Reading about McDonalds at 9:30am is making me feel sick.....seriously!

connundrum · 30-01-2007 09:57AM

julep wrote:

Regarding working in McDonalds, I can think of worse jobs.
The sheer snobbery of some people amazes me. I hope to walk into a McDonalds in 5 years time, when the country in in the crapper again, and be served by one of the nay-sayers here.
What makes you think you are too good to work for McDonalds in any capacity?
get your head out of your arse.

#Elites wrote:

hahah hes a McWorker

hahahaha

Not that I'd wish bad luck on someone, but some people are simply asking for it.

Its a job, get over it.

padi89 · 30-01-2007 10:08AM

Mmmm quiet strange all this, at the end of the day its a job, better than the fvckers on the dole perfectly capable of working but just wont.

30-01-2007 10:45AM

LundiMardi wrote:

Anyone else see this McDonalds add? ''Choose a career with McDonalds, good pay, flexible hours and a chance to learn some new management skills''

Me ballix:rolleyes:

Is there anyone who would take this seriously?

I was working there for a little while a few years back, first job,
and they actually were very flexible with the hours, they were quite happy to work around my college stuff
but good pay? ha!

woooo232 wrote:

My favourite line in this ad is when the guy says:

"Good pay, flexible hours and the chance to develop me management skills":D

So is that McGrammar?

I'm pretty sure he says "new management skills"...

Iago · 30-01-2007 10:52AM

panda100 wrote:

If you go to the UK,Australia,Canada,Japan people will laugh at you if you say your a dustbin man or work for Maccy d's.

I think you'll find that the stigma attached to working in the service industry in Ireland is far higher than countries elsewhere. Especially in America and Canada where they not only pride themselves on good service, but the service industry can be quite lucrative for younger people due to the high level of tipping.

In the last 10-15 years the younger generation in Ireland have developed a negative attitude regarding work and lifestyle. They believe that they are too good for certain jobs, and they don't want to work for anything. They are far more concerned about what their friends think than anything else.

What they wear, what they eat, where they work, where they go to college, where they eat, who they date, all are dictated to by the need to fit in and receive approval from their peers. The fact remains that smart people can see the career progression opportunities in McDonalds and similar companies, even supermarket staff can move through the ranks to store manager and from there to head office buyer roles. These pay around €65-€70K a year for someone with 1-3 years experience, not chump change by any means.

McDonalds are one of the biggest companies in the world, but unlike Intel or Microsoft, or Vodafone or IBM you actually have a real chance to take the benefit of that brand strength and run your own business taking the majority of the profits. If you decide that McDonalds isn't for you, the management skills and training you receive will see you get a chance in many other industries and companies, as such it's a career opportunity that should be given consideration..unless you're more concerned that your friends might laugh at you of course!

Kinetic^ · 30-01-2007 10:56AM

Iago wrote:

I think you'll find that the stigma attached to working in the service industry in Ireland is far higher than countries elsewhere. Especially in America and Canada where they not only pride themselves on good service, but the service industry can be quite lucrative for younger people due to the high level of tipping.

In the last 10-15 years the younger generation in Ireland have developed a negative attitude regarding work and lifestyle. They believe that they are too good for certain jobs, and they don't want to work for anything. They are far more concerned about what their friends think than anything else.

What they wear, what they eat, where they work, where they go to college, where they eat, who they date, all are dictated to by the need to fit in and receive approval from their peers. The fact remains that smart people can see the career progression opportunities in McDonalds and similar companies, even supermarket staff can move through the ranks to store manager and from there to head office buyer roles. These pay around €65-€70K a year for someone with 1-3 years experience, not chump change by any means.

McDonalds are one of the biggest companies in the world, but unlike Intel or Microsoft, or Vodafone or IBM you actually have a real chance to take the benefit of that brand strength and run your own business taking the majority of the profits. If you decide that McDonalds isn't for you, the management skills and training you receive will see you get a chip in many other industries and companies, as such it's a career opportunity that should be given consideration..unless you're more concerned that your friends might laugh at you of course!

Nice post Iago. If it was the last option, would you rather be laughed for working in McDonalds or being in the dole queue?

Padraig Mor · 30-01-2007 12:05PM

Does anyone remember the 80s? Plenty of people would have given their right arm to work in McDonald's then! I've got a professional qualification but if the economy collapsed in the morning and jobs were thin on the ground you can be damn sure I'd be practicing my "Do you want fries with that?"!

gary the great · 30-01-2007 02:03PM

As someone said earlier, you do have the best laugh working in them (well maybe not so much now with all the older foreigners), but I worked in one when i was 16. Everybody was Irish and on a saturday there would be 35+ staff. The laugh we used to have:

- COmpetitions to see who could eat the most cheeseburgers in one sitting (Totally sickening looking back at it now, but it was fun (personal best was 9).

- Eating as many Jalapeons as possible (Again got to 9 before the agony was to bad)

- Races down the side alley on trays of buns.

-seeing who could stay in the freezer the lonest without having to get out

-massive waterfights

- Trying to complete a whole days work by sitting in the storeroom and not getting caught

-Doing laps of the shopping centre and getting back before a manager would notice

- one of the lads used bring enough food home to feed his next door neighbours family on a saturday night in exchange for 20 john player blue.

Basically nobody gave a ****, it was a great laugh. If i see any of the lads i worked with we still always have a massive laugh about it.

Im lovin it.

zuutroy · 30-01-2007 02:09PM

^^^Sounds remarkably like my experience of Bewley's Grafton St when I worked there around 10 years ago!!!

Collie D · 30-01-2007 02:30PM

Sangre wrote:

Side note, actual franchise owners are rarely managers there (almost never), they're almost exclusive outside financiers who leave the daily business to a manager. Most owners would have never worked in McDs.

Might want to check that side note there? Franchisees must work on the floor for at least a year, some do it for longer and I don't just mean sitting in an office counting cash. McDonald's almost pride themselves on the fact that any managaement figure knows the business insoide out

Sangre · 30-01-2007 03:28PM

Friends parents had a franchise each and they said different. This was years ago though, might have changed. Although their franchise website clearly states 'A restaurant background is not necessary, nor is a large amount of capital - although you will be asked to make a personal investment in the business.' The only thing you have to do is 9 months unpaid franchise training.

Iago wrote:

The fact remains that smart people can see the career progression opportunities in McDonalds and similar companies, even supermarket staff can move through the ranks to store manager and from there to head office buyer roles. These pay around €65-€70K a year for someone with 1-3 years experience, not chump change by any means.

3 years in McD and I'm on 70k? Nice one....

Unpossible · 30-01-2007 03:41PM

Rawr! wrote:

anyone watch that film? Supersize me...

LOL

I nearly puked right there and then on me couch...

it made me a bit hungry actually

Xylophonic · 30-01-2007 04:03PM

My mam was 38 and applied for a job in McDonalds, with 12 months she was second assistant. She left there 2 years later and is now the full time manager of 3 coffee shops in 3 different shopping centres, Mc'D's got her started though and she doesnt forget that!

30-01-2007 04:28PM

I wish i had maccers now:(

Rawr! · 30-01-2007 04:38PM

Unpossible wrote:

it made me a bit hungry actually

LOL

Made me feel sick while watching it.... LOL

Sher now I'm addicted to Chicken McNuggets

mountainyman · 30-01-2007 04:52PM

Iago wrote:

While it may not be the first job that springs to mind, a career in McDonalds is something that could and should interest people who want to be successful in business and have an opportunity to be their own boss.

I think that the way to go (if you are good enough) is the Aldi managerial program.

Iago wrote:

Meanwhile the guy who started in McDonalds now owns his own restaurant and is making plans for expansion of the franchise into some other area.

McDonalds Franchises cost a million euro.

MM

stepbar · 30-01-2007 11:32PM

mountainyman wrote:

I think that the way to go (if you are good enough) is the Aldi managerial program.

McDonalds Franchises cost a million euro.

MM

McDonald's in Ranelagh closed over the weekend, sad day

Dont expect to have a life or any friends left if you take a job with Aldi......

People say all this bull crap about working in McD's, but when push comes to shove would you really? Christ lads, if you spent 10 yrs as a computer programmer / builder / whatever the **** I think you would find it very hard to go back. Dont you think you would work your arse off to find another job in your profession or even emigrate?.

Padraig Mor wrote:

Does anyone remember the 80s? Plenty of people would have given their right arm to work in McDonald's then! I've got a professional qualification but if the economy collapsed in the morning and jobs were thin on the ground you can be damn sure I'd be practicing my "Do you want fries with that?"!

Get away out of that would ya.... do you know where you would be? On a plane out of the country. Lets be at least honest about it. I didnt see many waiting around for a job in McD's during the 80's TBH.

Terry · 30-01-2007 11:45PM

we are talking about people with no qualifications here.
I don't think anyone expects a rocket scientist to start flipping burgers.

Kinetic^ · 30-01-2007 11:49PM

stepbar wrote:

McDonald's in Ranelagh closed over the weekend, sad day

RIP

stepbar · 30-01-2007 11:52PM

julep wrote:

we are talking about people with no qualifications here.
I don't think anyone expects a rocket scientist to start flipping burgers.

Some people here seem to be talking about those with some.... <ahem> Padraig Mor

insafehands · 31-01-2007 12:16AM

stepbar wrote:

McDonald's in Ranelagh closed over the weekend, sad day

OMG NO WAY!!!!!

Never went in there much myself. Think Diep are looking for somewhere in nearby to open a separate take-away.. I'll put .81c on that being it.

stepbar · 31-01-2007 12:46AM

insafehands wrote:

OMG NO WAY!!!!!

Never went in there much myself. Think Diep are looking for somewhere in nearby to open a separate take-away.. I'll put .81c on that being it.

Yeah!!!!!! It was weird I passed by it on Sunday nite, by Tuesday the place was gutted

They never did that well at the best of times

Rabies · 31-01-2007 12:56AM

gary the great wrote:

The laugh we used to have:

- COmpetitions to see who could eat the most cheeseburgers in one sitting (Totally sickening looking back at it now, but it was fun (personal best was 9).

- Eating as many Jalapeons as possible (Again got to 9 before the agony was to bad)

- Races down the side alley on trays of buns.

-seeing who could stay in the freezer the lonest without having to get out

-massive waterfights

- Trying to complete a whole days work by sitting in the storeroom and not getting caught

-Doing laps of the shopping centre and getting back before a manager would notice

- one of the lads used bring enough food home to feed his next door neighbours family on a saturday night in exchange for 20 john player blue.

What the hell. The manager and supervisors must have been terrible.
Fine, it might not have been the must rewarding of jobs at 16, but that is just ****ing around.

I would have most you fired if I was the manager or supervisor there.

LundiMardi · 31-01-2007 01:12AM

Rabies wrote:

What the hell. The manager and supervisors must have been terrible.
Fine, it might not have been the must rewarding of jobs at 16, but that is just ****ing around.

I would have most you fired if I was the manager or supervisor there.

:rolleyes:

It's all part of being 16 man... I was the same when i worked in Burger King in the square... It was a huge laugh, but i admit it's also a hard job!!! Let them have fun, i look back on times in BK and smile like i'm supposed to, there's plenty of time in later life to be suicidal walking into work in the morning.

Rabies · 31-01-2007 01:20AM

I'm looking at it from a different position. In my previous job I looked after crews from 5-100 on different jobs.
People arsing around like that annoy me and stop other genuine workers for getting their jobs job.
Wasting food in competitions would be a loss in possible company earnings, however small it is.

Meh, it just annoys me.

Sacked with out a doubt.

Sangre · 31-01-2007 01:26AM

If he was 16 at the same time I was jobs like McDs and supermarkets were absolutely desperate for people. Firing kids for messing was usually counter-productive for them.

Do you want a career with that?

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