Experimental Recomendations

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI · 04-12-2006 01:03AM

Am I only the one who just doesn't get Stockhausen? I always found his works incredibly boring...

John · 04-12-2006 07:49PM

Depends on the piece and the performer, sometimes it's deadly, sometimes it's a load of balls. I've heard more balls than deadlies though.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI · 12-12-2006 12:00AM

Anyone want to recommend me stuff that's like SPK's Zamia Lehmanni (Songs of Byzantine Flowers) album? I'd be eternally grateful

pig on the wing · 13-01-2007 02:29PM

animal collective - feels

lookitup

John · 13-01-2007 11:20PM

Ugh, Animal Collective, one of the most overated bands I've ever come across.

pig on the wing · 14-01-2007 11:37AM

tell that to the 50 people who own an animal collective album.

anti-venom · 14-01-2007 11:18PM

Acid Mothers Temple ...Japan
ruins.............Japan
Les Ralliez Denudes.....Japan
L.............Japan
Kawabata Makoto..........Japan
KK Null............Japan
Circle..........Finland
Phaoraoh Overland..............Finland
Amon Duul..........Germany
Guru Guru........Germany
Kinski.........U.S.
Tarantula Hawk.......U.S.
Subarachnoid Space......U.S.
Gravatar..........U.S.
Farflung.......U.S
Jack Rose.......U.S.
Stockhausen...........Germany
Faust............Germany
Jean Francois Pauvros.......France
Je Suis France
Six organs of Admission......U.S.
La Bradford

Check some of these acts out. You may be pleasently surprised......or not.

John · 15-01-2007 01:05AM

pig on the wing wrote:

tell that to the 50 people who own an animal collective album.

I have and I will again should they ever be foolish enough to cross my path again.

anti-venom wrote:

Acid Mothers Temple ...Japan
ruins.............Japan
Les Ralliez Denudes.....Japan
L.............Japan
Kawabata Makoto..........Japan
KK Null............Japan
Circle..........Finland
Phaoraoh Overland..............Finland
Amon Duul..........Germany
Guru Guru........Germany
Kinski.........U.S.
Tarantula Hawk.......U.S.
Subarachnoid Space......U.S.
Gravatar..........U.S.
Farflung.......U.S
Jack Rose.......U.S.
Stockhausen...........Germany
Faust............Germany
Jean Francois Pauvros.......France
Je Suis France
Six organs of Admission......U.S.
La Bradford

Check some of these acts out. You may be pleasently surprised......or not.

Great list. I recognise most of them but will have to check out the unknowns as they must be good to be put in the same company as LES RALLIZES DENUDES. An awesome band if ever there was one.

Executive Steve · 18-01-2007 01:12AM

subtle audio are a limerick based record label who have been releasing some interesting stuff... it's a drum and bass label with a firm emphasis on a return to the more forward thinking aesthetic that dominated the genre in the mid nineties...

in particular i have to big up boston producer Sileni...

"bouncing octagonal fragments" [on subtle audio]

"blue green texture jam" [on pieter k's excellent "thermal" imprint"

"twitchy droid leg" on new yorks "offshore" label [notable also for the graphic remix of ezekiel honig's "love session" - more unsettling ambient breakbeat glitchy weirdness]

are all excellent pieces of weird fragmented fractured craziness...

the guys over at www.subvertcentral.com [originally a drum and bass board, recently a hub for everything from bulgarian choir music to jazz to gabber techno - they got a mention in the wire year in dubstep review as well] run a non profit no publicity vinyl label and featured three Sileni tracks on their last release, "daytime jackhammering" in particular is well worth a listen.

i must say, this board is turning into a fantastic little community, i had very low expectations after years of being depressed by the dance / electronic section up the road... but there's lots and lots of stuff i'll be checking out from this thread; my new years resolution was to move out of my leftfield dnb / dancehall / jazz comfort zones and this thread is going to be a big help i reckon!

GoToGate · 19-01-2007 02:14PM

anti-venom wrote:

Faust............Germany
..
You may be pleasently surprised......or not.

Totally agree. Faust was one of the first true avantgarde-rock bands, and they have continued theire experiments on and off over the years. I heard rumours that they will release a new album this year produced and/or mixed by Steven Stapleton!

John · 19-01-2007 04:34PM

GoToGate wrote:

Totally agree. Faust was one of the first true avantgarde-rock bands, and they have continued theire experiments on and off over the years. I heard rumours that they will release a new album this year produced and/or mixed by Steven Stapleton!

Not quite true, Stapleton is going to be with them for some gigs. I wouldn't be surprised if he did do studio work with them (which would be fantastic) but for the moment it's just touring.

Speaking of live shows and Steve Stapleton, I'm booking my tickets for Nurse With Wound in London tonight, I can't wait!

bconniffe · 20-01-2007 01:58PM

John wrote:

Not quite true, Stapleton is going to be with them for some gigs. I wouldn't be surprised if he did do studio work with them (which would be fantastic) but for the moment it's just touring.

afraid you have that the wrong way round. quite a bit of studio work between nww and faust has already been completed (and sounds fantastic: like a cross between the self titled first faust and "so far" albums). a taster is available at: http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/mp3specials.php

steve stapleton (with the assistance of colin potter) is mixing, producing, reworking the new faust album, essentially filling the role that uwe nettlebeck played on the classic faust albums. it is not yet confirmed if there will be live work.

as for my own "experimental" recommendations, the following are all superb albums that i cannot recommend highly enough:

Nurse With Wound: Soliloquy For Lilith
Coil: Love's Secret Domain
Throbbing Gristle: Second Annual Report
Whitehouse: Bird Seed
Cyclobe: The Visitors
Current 93: In Menstrual Night
John Duncan: Phantom Broadcast
Mirror: Mirror Of The Sea
Can: Tago Mago
Sand: Golem
The Hafler Trio: Masturbatorium
Faust: So Far
Cromagnon: Orgasm
Robert Ashley: Automatic Writing / Purposeful Lady Slow Afternoon / She Was A Visitor
Coil: Time Machines
Comus: First Utterance
Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica
Cosey Fanni Tutti: Selflessness
Brainticket: Cottonwoodhill
Irr. App. (Ext.): Dust Pincher Appliances
William S. Burroughs: Nothing Here Now But The Recordings
Holgar Czukay: Canaxis
Chris Carter: E.A.R. 3
Frank Zappa: Lumpy Gravy
Ora: Aureum
Bernard Parmegiani: De Natura Sonorum
Carter Tutti: Cabal
Monos: The Black Sea / Generators
Nature And Organisation: A Dozen Summers Against The World
Elaine Radigue: Biogenesis
Merzbow and Christoph Heemann: Sleeper Awakes On The Edge Of Abyss
The Residents: Third Reich And Roll
Andrew Chalk: Blue Eyes Of The March
Darren Tate and Andrew Liles: Without Season
Smegma: Glamour Girl 1941
Alvin Lucier: Bird And Person Dyning
Amm: Ammusic
Jonathan Coleclough: Cake
Mnortham: A Great And Riverless Ocean
V/A: Electroacoustic Music vol 4: Sythesiser ANS (1964 – 1971)
Basil Kirchin: Quantum
Organum: Vacant Lights
Phill Niblock: Touch Works For Hurdy Gurdy And Voice
C-Schulz: 5 Flicker Tunes
Luc Ferrari: Unheimlich Schön
Aube reworks Maurizio Bianchi vol 1
Tony Wakeford and Matt Howden: Three Nine
Gavin Bryars: Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet

John · 20-01-2007 06:23PM

bconniffe wrote:

afraid you have that the wrong way round. quite a bit of studio work between nww and faust has already been completed (and sounds fantastic: like a cross between the self titled first faust and "so far" albums). a taster is available at: http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/mp3specials.php

steve stapleton (with the assistance of colin potter) is mixing, producing, reworking the new faust album, essentially filling the role that uwe nettlebeck played on the classic faust albums. it is not yet confirmed if there will be live work.

Oh right, I'm just going on this from the NWW page:

In other NWW-related news, Steven Stapleton has been asked to join the three original members of Faust to be part of their touring ensemble

I hadn't heard anything about studio work but this is a welcome surprise

As for your list, very nice selection and you're obviously a NWW fan considering I noticed a fair few artists from the NWW List. Will you be going to London?

bconniffe · 21-01-2007 11:07PM

John wrote:

As for your list, very nice selection and you're obviously a NWW fan considering I noticed a fair few artists from the NWW List. Will you be going to London?

i am not sure yet if i will make it to london, it will be worth it though: a performance of "salt marie celeste" after christoph heemann is sure to be a wonderful thing...

John · 22-01-2007 01:11AM

Agreed. After hearing Soundpooling I decided I had to see NWW at least once in my life. San Francisco was out of the question and Donau/Barcelona are a bit too far so I jumped on this. I'm pissed about the Donau festival though, such an amazing line up. Heemann and NWW will soften the blow though

Scratch Acid · 25-01-2007 12:33AM

I've been listening to Diamanda Galas quite a bit lately. I suppose she falls under "experimental". I have The Litanies of Satan and Divine Punishment which are pretty interesting to listen to, and are indicative of what most of her work sounds like, I imagine, but the album La Serpenta Canta is goddamn fantastic. It's her interpretations of various blues songs and other stuff, on solo piano and voice. The cover of Ornette Coleman's Lonely Woman is pretty incredible, she sings Ornette's sax part. The whole album is great, but the Screamin' Jay Hawkins covers stand out, as well as Ain't No Grave Can Hold My Body Down, which is the best thing I've heard in a good while.

Anyway so, if you've been meaning to check her out or whatever and don't want to start with the weirder stuff, this is a good album to get.

John · 26-01-2007 12:37AM

I say dive right in with Diamanda, if you're not able for any of it you shouldn't be listening at all

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