Blasphemy?

InFront · 19-01-2007 08:37PM

DaveMcG wrote:

How about you don't analyze every word used in daily conversation?

I don't. But just wondering why people who are non-religious would even start off 'a habit' like that? Like I said, it's not a big deal, but I would question the idea that everyone brought up in an environment where these cursings are mentioned uses them.

Sofaspud · 19-01-2007 08:42PM

The H does stand for Harold, as can be heard in the prayer, "Lord, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name."

Terry · 19-01-2007 08:43PM

í find it baffling that people take offence at certain words.
fúck being one of them.
when said in a certain way it can be crass, but when used in everyday language, "fúck it" for example, i don't really see it as an offensive word.

as for the religious words, like dave said, it's just habit.
were i to move to Cork tomorrow, i would probably add the word "langer" to my vocabulary within a few weeks, without actually realising it.

Dave! · 19-01-2007 08:48PM

InFront wrote:

I don't. But just wondering why people who are non-religious would even start off 'a habit' like that? Like I said, it's not a big deal, but I would question the idea that everyone brought up in an environment where these cursings are mentioned uses them.

I'm sure they "start off" with the habit before they're old enough to realise the significance (or lack thereof) of what they're saying. Whether they make a conscious decision to drop it or not is up to them. Secular people like myself probably realise how irrelevent using religious terminology on a daily basis actually is, and so don't bother going to the effort of stopping themselves using it. It doesn't make a difference.

In my experience ~99% of Irish people (religious or otherwise) blaspheme on a regular basis.

monkeyfudge · 20-01-2007 12:01AM

DaveMcG wrote:

Personally I'll give religious beliefs and customs the same amount of respect I give to political beliefs, for example. I'm not going to obey them just because you do, and they're both up for debate.

Just don't take the Tánaiste's name in vain what ever you do!

Terry · 20-01-2007 12:10AM

well i'm quite disappointed that nobody has mentioned jehovah.

Sofaspud · 20-01-2007 12:29AM

julep wrote:

well i'm quite disappointed that nobody has mentioned jehovah.

BLASPHEMY!

*chucks a rock*

Kipperhell · 20-01-2007 01:21PM

Have a look at this

http://www.thetruthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm

Pretty offensive and stupid. No problem affending religious people who believe this.

The other thing is people think of that the Catholic Church as the same everywhere when it is has a few changes to marry in to local customes. For example John the Baptist is celebrated in parts of spain and most likely connected to his original church. THere are lots of precessions of holy relics that are just like ones before the church arrived etc...
THe church also takes firmer stands depending on the country. In Ireland I think the church send a strong anti abortion stance but in many african states the preach anti-contraception. Why are the not preaching that here too? I would guess the realise people wouldn't take them seriously if they tried to.
I'll never understand how anybody could take the word of the bible literally it promotes blood sacrifices and suggests you should listen to voices telling you to kill your own child;) That is only one story and you also have moses sleeping with his son and a man offering his wife and daughter to a gang of men going to rape a male guest. It doesn't sound very christian to me. :rolleyes:

Dave! · 20-01-2007 01:23PM

Ehh Kipperhell, I think you're a bit mislead there..... Those stories are bad. They show god in a bad light. They make him look evil.

So they must be metaphores, duhh!!!

MrJoeSoap · 20-01-2007 01:33PM

Kipperhell wrote:

http://www.thetruthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm

Best religious link since "The Brick Testament"!

Kipperhell · 20-01-2007 01:34PM

DaveMcG wrote:

Ehh Kipperhell, I think you're a bit mislead there..... Those stories are bad. They show god in a bad light. They make him look evil.

So they must be metaphores, duhh!!!

Yeah I guess your right I mean it is not like he attempts genocide by killing all the males of a group of people who don't kill lambs and smear the blood on their doors.
I am always got the impression God was really unreasonable. His son forces him to open the gates of heaven, was he mad with human kind prior to them killing his son? Why not just open the gates what could have been stopping God?

Kipperhell · 20-01-2007 01:39PM

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Best religious link since "The Brick Testament"!

THe best one is the father in the porno story.

Sangre · 20-01-2007 02:18PM

The evolution one is funnier. Evolution is RACIST!

Nomis21 · 18-10-2018 01:50PM

If the referendum is passed on 26th, will I be able to start Blaspheming straight away or should I wait till 27th?

TheValeyard · 18-10-2018 02:49PM

Nomis21 wrote: »

If the referendum is passed on 26th, will I be able to start Blaspheming straight away or should I wait till 27th?

I plan to dress as the Prophet Mohammad to work on Monday.
Abraham Tuesday
Jesus Wednesday
Buddha Thursday
Vishnu Friday
Xenu Saturday

Sunday will be a day of rest.

nozzferrahhtoo · 18-10-2018 03:12PM

Endurance Man wrote: »

If i entered a pub while a very important game of football/hurling was on and started spouting off on how sh!te these sports where it would not be long before i had a few less teeth. Of course people dont do this because they respect that others enjoy watching and enjoying these sports (for the most part).
I dont really see how offending the religious people around you by using these phrases is any different? Perhaps its how we are raised, but i feel respect for religions even if you are not a religious person is just decent?

I see exactly what you mean. But at the same time I wonder if there are reasons the analogy falls down. For example the sport, sporting clubs, players and so forth likely exist in the first place. If they were staring at a BLANK television screen and cheering and seeing something that is not there.... you might be more inclined to back out of the room slowly and/or engage in a small level of ridicule.

I do not TOO often (but it has happened) find people of one sport suggesting people of another sport are beneath human for example. But recently a bishop said atheists are not fully human. Not nice for me to hear. Not nice for my children to hear. I do not scream "blasphemy" though. I just think the guy is a bit of a toss pot and am glad less and less people listen to him and his ilk.

Further people have rarely gone around in a heavily consistent and long term fashion using their sport or sporting club of choice as a reason to change laws in your country in an unjustifiable fashion.

Or to manufacture arguments as to why you should be heterosexual. Or to oppress women in any way. Or to curtail rights on abortion because your club imagines a zygote has been ensouled.

Or to espouse morality, such as sexual morality, they they themselves are flouting in the most egregious and heinous and despicable of ways before then perverting the course of justice, reparation and healing in every way possible while also facilitating the perpetrators of such crimes to move elsewhere and start again.

Or to claim that their sporting club of choice created the universe therefore you should not be allowed work on the sabbath or buy beer on certain days of the year.

Or that we should worship the manager of the football club despite the fact he is a war monger, scared of dogs, plays with underage girls, claimed to have written a book while illiterate, or rather than dying actually flew into the heavens on a winged horse.

The religious fanaticism and tribalism we sometimes see between sports and sporting clubs is problematic, but it is not quite on a comparable par with religion and blasphemy. Actually this speaker here puts it a little better than me, though you will have to replace "stamp collecting" with "sports" to see the connection.

But you are right, if people want to go their clubhouse of choice to indulge in their football hobby, I leave them alone. No reason to accost or ridicule them or disrespect them. Similarly if people want to go to their clubhouse of choice to indulge in their religion hobby.... ditto for that too! We all have hobbies, and they no more need to justify theirs to anyone than I do mine! People's private life is just that, private! Leave them at it and do not go after them for the sake of it.

Gravelly · 18-10-2018 03:18PM

I was at a wedding recently, where my wife's nephew married a girl who comes from a baptist family. The reception was held in a marquee in their garden. The bride's father spent most of the reception going around to guests imploring them to stop taking the name of the lord in vain, much to the amusement of most, especially the "be jaysuuuuus" Dublin cohort.

AllForIt · 18-10-2018 03:57PM

Gravelly wrote: »

I was at a wedding recently, where my wife's nephew married a girl who comes from a baptist family. The reception was held in a marquee in their garden. The bride's father spent most of the reception going around to guests imploring them to stop taking the name of the lord in vain, much to the amusement of most, especially the "be jaysuuuuus" Dublin cohort.

Jesus H Christ.

Shenshen · 18-10-2018 04:22PM

Nomis21 wrote: »

If the referendum is passed on 26th, will I be able to start Blaspheming straight away or should I wait till 27th?

Swearing while resurrecting 11 year old zombie threads?

Hotblack Desiato · 19-10-2018 08:53PM

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

I see exactly what you mean.

fyi Nozz, that post is 11.5 years old, and that poster hasn't posted on boards in 10.5 years, so your reply may be falling on deaf ears

nozzferrahhtoo · 19-10-2018 08:56PM

Yeah I noticed that about an hour after I wrote it.

But then again I never make any post on this forum under the illusion it is only read by the people I reply directly to

Blasphemy?

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