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Spoofers in the premiership

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    A lot of the West Ham team this year have decided not to put in the effort of the previous season. It's essentially the same team but they go to Reading and put in a performance like that( Reading 6 - West Ham 0).

    I enjoyed watching West Ham play last year. The team was full of energy and enthusiasm put not this year.

    Beckham of course. What a spoofer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    Prufrock wrote:
    A lot of the West Ham team this year have decided not to put in the effort of the previous season. It's essentially the same team but they go to Reading and put in a performance like that( Reading 6 - West Ham 0).

    I enjoyed watching West Ham play last year. The team was full of energy and enthusiasm put not this year.

    Beckham of course. What a spoofer.

    Yeah what a disappointing career he has had, I bet he sits at home sometimes wondering where it all went wrong. After all he was only instrumental in his team winning a treble and countless other trophies then onto a Real Madrid team where he was always one of the best players every season he was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,074 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Vicente Matias Vuoso -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Matias_Vuoso
    He left the club in June 2002 to sign with English club Manchester City, joining for 3.5 million pounds. However, Vuoso was quite unsuccessful with Manchester City, not appearing in a single game, and was loaned out to Santos Laguna for the 2003/04 season.

    'Quite unsuccessful'? Biggest understatment ever. Such an waster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    ^Same school of football as Agusin Delgado and Bosko Balaban so. Spoofers of the highest order.

    Though Ali Dia gets my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    gustavo wrote:
    Yeah what a disappointing career he has had, I bet he sits at home sometimes wondering where it all went wrong. After all he was only instrumental in his team winning a treble and countless other trophies

    You think Beckham was instrumental in United winning the treble. He played his part but it was because of people like Keane, Scholes, Cole, Yorke and Schmeichel that United won the treble.
    gustavo wrote:
    then onto a Real Madrid team where he was always one of the best players every season he was there.

    Really. That's why he was dropped. He was so good he was dropped from the starting 11. Hmm. Out of the nine matches Beckham started in this year Real lost seven. Might be a coincidence. Don't think he has scored over five goals in a season while at Real.

    Beckham's contribution comes from crosses and free kicks. But he can hardly tackle, he's not the quickest and isn't the hardest working player on the planet. Not worth the money he is paid. Spoofer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,074 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Prufrock wrote:
    Beckham's contribution comes from crosses and free kicks. But he can hardly tackle, he's not the quickest and isn't the hardest working player on the planet. Not worth the money he is paid. Spoofer.

    But everyone already knows this so if it's common knowledge where's the spoof?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    Xavi6 wrote:
    But everyone already knows this so if it's common knowledge where's the spoof?

    The money he is paid doesn't reflect his contribution to the team. That's where the spoof is. Also he was runner up in the world player of the year award twice. Explain that to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Prufrock wrote:
    Also he was runner up in the world player of the year award twice. Explain that to me.
    Runner up in the treble season was fair enough, he was Man Utd's most creative and influential player that season (imo!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    kinaldo wrote:
    Runner up in the treble season was fair enough, he was Man Utd's most creative and influential player that season (imo!).

    OK how about the second time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,074 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Prufrock wrote:
    OK how about the second time.

    Well 2001 was the year he helped England qualify for the World Cup in Korea and Japan. The goal against Greece is one of the best and most crucial I've seen and showed how the guy led by example when the pressure was on his team. Also won the Premiership with United in May of that year.

    Either that or it was just a sh*t year seeing as Figo won it and Raul was third!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    Xavi6 wrote:
    Well 2001 was the year he helped England qualify for the World Cup in Korea and Japan. The goal against Greece is one of the best and most crucial I've seen and showed how the guy led by example when the pressure was on his team. Also won the Premiership with United in May of that year.

    Either that or it was just a sh*t year seeing as Figo won it and Raul was third!

    He did have a good game against Greece. Great free kick aswell. But runner up for player of the year? He wasn't that good. Also it was only one game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Prufrock wrote:


    Really. That's why he was dropped. He was so good he was dropped from the starting 11. Hmm. Out of the nine matches Beckham started in this year Real lost seven. Might be a coincidence. Don't think he has scored over five goals in a season while at Real.
    A lot of people in Madrid would seem to think he's been hard done by. Extract from Phil Ball's weekly Spanish football column on Soccernet:
    In terms of how all this impacts on Real Madrid, the truth is that the issue of his exclusion (not the transfer) has split the country down the middle. I was in Santiago at the weekend, and everyone was talking about it. Back here in San Sebastian, and I've just come back from the bar after watching Madrid beat Zaragoza, people were still talking about it.

    One chap with a scary moustache, who'd spent the game muttering darkly about Van Nistelrooy's inability to either control or pass the ball - Es un buitre, joder! Que se dedique a esto, y nada más! (He's a poacher, for God's sake. He should just stick to doing that!) then began to chat with the barman about Beckham (who'd just appeared on camera, sitting in the stands watching his mates play). 'I can't understand it!' he shouted. 'So Madrid need to clean out the old ones, and start from new. I can understand that. But to punish the guy like that is just nasty. It shows a lack of class. Beckham's alright. He's always worked his nuts off. The club's gone to the dogs. You can't treat people like that'.

    Radomir Antic, writing in the tabloid 'AS' said something similar, qualifying the action as symbolic of a dying institution, one that no longer has the dignity to even know who its most loyal servants have been. And he has a point. Ronaldo's sullen and unpredictable behaviour over the past two seasons should have guaranteed his exit long before now, but now Beckham has been lumped in with the 'clean-up', which includes the troublesome Cassano - a most unholy trinity, since the Englishman's behaviour has been exemplary.

    He even praised Capello as a manager last week and pledged that he would continue to fight for the cause, words that have been rewarded with a kick in the nether regions, further down than Ferguson's flying boot. It's true, of course, that Beckham has occasionally been required to ask permission to go and film some ad somewhere, or endorse a product, or whatever chaps like Beckham are required to do, but Real Madrid signed him precisely for that purpose, even grabbing 50% of his image rights - based on deals that Beckham had cut before he ever trod the Bernabéu.

    Of course, his time at Madrid has coincided with a slump in form (not really his fault), six managers and plenty of crises, but it has also coincided with the club becoming the richest on Earth, in terms of marketing turnover. So now they've banked the money, it seems that they feel no loyalty to the man who played a large part in bringing it to them. Thanks David, now p*** off.

    To imply, as Capello has, that Beckham's mind will solely be on his pending move, is to question the professionalism of a player who has always gone out and tried to do his best, despite the circus that surrounds him. Even Raúl, the most reluctant of his colleagues and the real Rasputin behind the throne - has admitted that much.

    The Bernabéu rate Beckham, however much the tabloid Marca desperately publish daily (unsubstantiated) vox-pops which claim to support Capello's actions. The Bernabéu have always rated Beckham. They recognise his limitations, but they still know that he's the best passer in their squad, a player capable of bringing out the best in the rest. But like any other player he needs continuity. He can't perform in a bit-part role. When he's had continuity he's played just fine and he's a better player than he was at Manchester United.

    I stick with the words of Jorge Valdano, who knows a thing or two about football. His mis-translated phrase, that Beckham 'strikes' the ball better than anyone since Maradona, was in fact 'Desde Maradona, nadie trata el balon como Beckham' (Since Maradona, no-one has had the touch that Beckham has) seems a good enough testament to me.
    Full article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Magic Pips


    kinaldo wrote:
    A lot of people in Madrid would seem to think he's been hard done by. Extract from Phil Ball's weekly Spanish football column on Soccernet:

    *snip*

    Superb column


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭grahamo


    Shevchenko is on holidays at Chelsea. Kewell at Liverpool.
    David Beckham.....I know its not the premiership but get real....He hasn't gone to LA Galaxy for the competitive football!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,303 ✭✭✭✭event


    Prufrock wrote:
    You think Beckham was instrumental in United winning the treble. He played his part but it was because of people like Keane, Scholes, Cole, Yorke and Schmeichel that United won the treble.

    they wouldnt have won it without him

    FACT


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