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Customer Is Always Right

  • 09-01-2007 02:41AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭


    Anybody have those people who insist that they ( The Customer ) is always right?


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  • Posts: 36,733 CMod ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well, I have a little Johnson & Johnson stock, and the annual report they sent to me has a credo that shows the customer (GP supplied and medical patient treated) as coming first. What's right for the patient, is right for the corporation that supplies the equipment, supplies and drugs? If you were a patient, would you want it any other way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    Steyr wrote:
    Anybody have those people who insist that they ( The Customer ) is always right?

    Do you mean have or hate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭JaysusMacfeck


    Always right me boll0x. The only people that say this have never worked in the service industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    Always right me boll0x. The only people that say this have never worked in the service industry.
    I know a few ppl like that and they have worked in the service industry, they felt they were been riped off and they said it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Always right me boll0x. The only people that say this have never worked in the service industry.

    I always thought it was "The customer must always believe they are right".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Steyr wrote:
    Anybody have those people who insist that they ( The Customer ) is always right?
    Do you mean is or are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I work in IT so for me it's "The user is always absolutely clueless".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Sleepy wrote:
    I work in IT so for me it's "The user is always absolutely clueless".

    yep the user is an idiot when it comes to computer industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Sleepy wrote:
    I work in IT so for me it's "The user is always absolutely clueless".

    Yeah, but, as some who's been in IT, I've noticed that "the admin is always a lazy, grumpy, condesending git" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hobbes wrote:
    I always thought it was "The customer must always believe they are right".
    Well, that's the spirit of the saying. For some reason some people don't understand the saying and take it literally, then get all hot under the collar because quite clearly the customer is not always right.

    However, it's a business ethos that if a customer comes to you with a complaint, even if their complaint is mistaken, incorrect or just plain fraudulent, you should still treat it as if it were a genuine mistake on your behalf. Obviously that's not saying that if someone demands €50k from you because they claim you did something you didn't, then you roll over.

    Think about all the times you made complaints to companies. We've all done it at one point or another. And we've all had the company who will argue with you tooth-and-nail to avoid their responsibility. We've also all had the company who accept and rectify the complaint without fuss.
    Which companies made the better impression? Which companies made you happy to continue purchasing from them?

    That's the spirit of the saying.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    Who mentioned complaints though? I've heard far too often "I want xx for free with my purchase or i'm not buying for you". Followed by a sly smug look to their companion to say "look at how good I am at negotiating". After this they recieve two fingers from myself they buy anyway.

    Man i'm so glad those college years where I had to work ****ty rep jobs are gone. I'll never miss dealing with the Irish public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    oh seamus, bless your little heart for trying to educate.

    i think there should be a saying, 'the boardsie complaintant usually doesnt understand the whole situation'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    from my experience i find that the customer is nearly always an overdemanding ****

    there are a small number who are right. the most of them are retards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    well its been a war for me with silvios because they always get my food wrong and i cant ****ing stand it, every single time me and my mates order its always mine thats wrong and then try try to charge delivery charge for the driver to come out with the right food or sometimes they wont even bring the food a 2nd time!!!! the bitch said no the driver has to go home bollox there **** up they have to fix it, so i ended the whole thing i told her to come to my house and i will give her the food back and she can give me the money back

    she did and i ordered from mizonis - happy

    years of shight from silvios there not worth it not to mention how often the police are called to the house where the staff live in firehouse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    From age 16-19 I worked in Penneys, in the Omni Park.
    I used to work on the customer service desk, and so I had to deal with a load of HowRya's, who would scream the shop down just to get a £1 refund (seriously).

    One day this girl comes in, she was about 21/22, attractive and very well spoken.

    She said she had bought an underwear set and after just one wear the bra had completely lost its shape.

    She showed me her receipt, and removed the bra from her bag, to show me the damage.
    Yes, the bra had indeed lost its shape. It also had been worn more then once, had greyed in colour and had sweat stains on the under arm.

    I had expected something more form this girl, as she gave the appearance of being rather well to do, so I was a bit shocked that she would have the neck to bring the shoddy garment in to begin with, let alone demand a refund. (I think it was only worth a 5er or something).

    Anyhow, I told her I wouldn't be issuing a refund as the garment was unsanitary and had clearly been worn more then once.

    She kicked up such a fuss that I finally decided to get my manager to deal with her.
    At this stage, for me, it was a matter of principal. As far as I was concerned she was a dirty bitch who was just chancing her luck.

    However, my manager couldn't have been arsed arguing with her and told me to just give her her money back, to get rid of her.

    I was mortified, but what could I do.

    (The whole time she was banging on about how the customer was always right)
    So i put the refund through the till, and as I was about to hand her her change she says, "I suppose you'll be wanting the matching briefs" and pulls the offending garment from her bag and places it on the counter.

    I am not joking you, she placed worn, soiled, underwear in the counter, took her money, and proceeded to walk away.

    I was actually speechless, but the woman who had been waiting behind her in the queue had no problem finding her words.

    "Ya dirty, fcuking, jumped up bitch" she said, "Security, here, don't let her leave the shop before she takes her filthy dirty fcuking knickers with her".

    Security guard comes over and I tell him that yes, the girl had indeed left her filthy underwear on the counter.

    Now in the Omni the customer service desk is at the back of the store, so the girl had yet to make her way out of the shop.

    Our security guard rang outside, and just as she set foot outside the store 2 centre guards asked her, politely, to return to the customer service desk as she had left something behind.
    She was escorted back to the desk where she, without saying a word, put the knickers back in her bag, turned on her heel, and walked, quickly, form the shop!

    No such thing as a graceful exit though, as the woman who had been waiting behind her told everyone who would listen what she had done, and they all had something to say about it.

    Anyhow, that’s my story, I had a few cnut customers in my time, but she was one of the most shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    humanji wrote:
    Yeah, but, as some who's been in IT, I've noticed that "the admin is always a lazy, grumpy, condesending git" :D
    Yup, that's pretty true too.

    Lucky I'm neither a user nor an admin. :D


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've had so many instances where, even though the customer was completely and utterly in the wrong, I had to place the blame on myself. It's amazing how many customers get hotheaded in these circumstances. Through these things, I've realised something- People are idiots. And you have to forgive them for doing stupid things, because they are idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    that story made my day mrs doyle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,043 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Steyr wrote:
    Anybody have those people who insist that they ( The Customer ) is always right?


    Nope but the customer deserves due courtesy and to feel that thier comapliant and grieance has been heard.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    that story made my day mrs doyle

    Same here! Very good!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    I used to work in Gateway in tech support (nightmare job) and when an call was incoming we could see if it was an Irish or English person ringing. The English calls were always easier to deal with. I actually had an interview a few years later with a customer of Gateways for an admin job and turned it down because I remembered that whenever any PC they bought had a problem it was an emergency of the highest order (that included things like a floppy drive cable being loose). Who wants a stressful job like that.
    In that job if you got some knob on screaming that he knew his rights then he got his rights (and nothing more). If you got somebody who was more polite and understood that things go faulty we were way more helpful (things like engineers to the customer or replacement systems when we didn't have to do that).
    Before that I worked in Peats, same kind of result. If you came in saying you knew your rights and wanted to speak to a manager then you got your rights (which might not have been what you thought). If you came in friendlier or were a good customer we could always do something.
    The customer isn't always right but if they're always polite and respectful (and not dealing with a jobsworth) then they'll get on OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Mrs_Doyle wrote:
    Anyhow, that’s my story, I had a few cnut customers in my time, but she was one of the most shocking.
    Fantastic story Mrs Doyle.

    I hate starting class-warfare, but from my previous life working in pubs and security I found that the biggest troublemakers were middle-class. Go figure.

    My take on 'The Customer is always right" is that that saying should always be prefixed with "If a profitable transaction is to be made then...".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    My current job thankfully doesn't involve dealing with the public. I used to work in a call centre and felt the company I worked for might as well have been anally violating its customers given the way we had to treat them (insurance industry, who would have guessed it?)

    On the other hand a lot of customers were clueless, ignorant, rude morons regardless of how well you would treat them. So no, the customer is not always right, but they do deserve to be treated well as long as they do nothing to indicate they don't deserve to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭abetarrush


    I hate stupid customers

    They come back either with no receipt or a present from "santy" with their kids beside them

    If they dont get wha they want, they go on a consumer rights rants

    Luckily I know the consumer rights so I can say, Actually, your wrong, so go fxck yerself :)

    Some girl brought back a phone that "wasnt" working. It had physical damage, and was apparently freezing a lot. She had no receipt, didnt have the game she got free with the phone, and said all she got in the box was the phone and charger. I said i cudnt change it so she went home and got the Game and the manuals etc, that she never got in the first place!
    So i didnt return the item, said we'd send it to be repaired but she didnt come back

    People are idiots


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    abetarrush wrote:
    I hate stupid customers

    They come back either with no receipt or a present from "santy" with their kids beside them

    If they dont get wha they want, they go on a consumer rights rants

    Luckily I know the consumer rights so I can say, Actually, your wrong, so go fxck yerself :)

    Some girl brought back a phone that "wasnt" working. It had physical damage, and was apparently freezing a lot. She had no receipt, didnt have the game she got free with the phone, and said all she got in the box was the phone and charger. I said i cudnt change it so she went home and got the Game and the manuals etc, that she never got in the first place!
    So i didnt return the item, said we'd send it to be repaired but she didnt come back

    People are idiots

    Whatever about "stupid customers", there are plenty of "stupid customer support" people. Was standing in the Q for the customer service desk in AIB, O'Connell St last week. Got up to the counter was doing the bit of business I had to do. At this stage it was lunch time and it was quite busy. Polish guy comes in beside me. Yer man ignores him.... then finshes with me and ate him out of it. The poor chap was only wondering where / when he could open up an account. My jaw dropped, "eh" I said looking at him at amazement. and before I could say another word he's practacally apologising for his behaviour. I felt like saying quit the day job, ur obviously not cut out for customer service with an attitude like that. Also whats the crack with people in shops, are they not able to say hello / make eye contact / smile / not act like a ****in mechanised robot? So ignorant. So there you go people are not stupid all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    cornbb wrote:
    no, the customer is not always right, but they do deserve to be treated well as long as they do nothing to indicate they don't deserve to be.
    Spot on!

    No, I don't believe the customer is always right, some customers are a pain in the butt, but these days in Ireland I get the feeling that the prevailing ethos is that "the customer is always wrong"!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,720 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Well as already pointed out the phrase isn't supposed to be taken literally but was probably originally used by businesses when training staff how to deal with customer complaints. The problem is it some how "got out" to the general public who now, sadly, take it seriously.

    I work part-time in the service industry and always take the path of least resistance when dealing with customers, i.e. just give them what they want and to hell with the "rules" management tell you. In my experience managers when faced with a customer will usually do this anyway, making you look like a fool in process, even though you were just doing as you were told.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    People who say / think 'the customer is always right' deserve to be killed in front of their families.

    Make sure you take the spirit of that comment rather than its literal interpretation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    The OP said that he doesn't like people who say 'The Customer is always right'. Where did he say he didn't treat them with respect or process their complain as he should. Just because he and others have stated that they don't like people who waltz in and bellow this phrase at you does not mean that they don't do their job properly.

    I've been working in retail for 5 years now and have met some truely lovely people, some horrendous individuals and some strange people.

    A few months back a woman in her 50's walked into the shop and asked if she could return something. I asked to see her receipt and was shocked to see that the goods were 8 years old!!!!! Granted they hadn't been used, but I mentioned to her that there was nothing wrong with the items and that although she didn't need them that we weren't obliged to take them back as there was nothing wrong with them.
    She asked me if we wouldn't have some use for them. I pointed out to her that A> they were bought longer ago than I had been working in the shop which is a long enough time and that B> they were bought pre-euro.

    These two facts didn't stop her though and she kept at it again and again.

    I can tell you another one about a guy in Wicklow, a TFT and his involvement with us and the manufacturer. He was highly unpleasant. Let me know if you want to hear it...


    I never assume the customer is always right, nor do I assume that they are wrong. I ALWAYS listen to what they have to say and base my actions on that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,333 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Nope but the customer deserves due courtesy and to feel that thier comapliant and grieance has been heard.

    Only if they're courteous in their complaint in the first place.


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