Fisticuffs.

6th · 13-11-2006 01:47PM

Yes but is that against one person or multiple attachers? ... then theres always ninjas!

Splinter · 13-11-2006 02:18PM

never had to throw a punch but gottn a few slaps and dodged more as they were thrown. usually i have the luck to be able to dodge out of the way and grab the guys shoulders til someone else gets in and helps me. walked away from the knacker types and had the unlucky experience of a can in the neck/shoulder which hurt like hell and true enough the scum got his one over on me with all his friends laughing but tbh i would rather that then spend a night or worse in hospital.

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 02:25PM

My own experience of ifghting isnt a great one,

Outside of school antics:
Guy grabbed my missus' ass in a club a while back, I lost my temper, Aimed for the head and threw as many punches as i could before the security kicked me out. He got his dues, i was happy.

I felt safe because i was in a club and knew the security would be there soon enough, we left the scene quickly incase he had some friends.

Was having a ciggerette outside a bar in dunboyne last year and this guy comes up claiming to know me, i was convincing him i didnt know him and he accused me of getting smart "if yer gettin' smart i'll crack yer head for ya bud"

I took the warning and smashed the butt of my bottle into his face a few times, (i used the butt so it wouldn't break, not for his sake but i didnt want it to cut me), gave him a few kicks to the body when he went down. there was no security so i grabbed my stuff and jumped in a taxi straight away to avoid meeting his scanger friends.

I think i did the right thing, I didnt think about anything at the time just the best way out of the situation. as for knowing my physical capabilities, I use the advantage of most scangers not expecting an all out attack. I never trained in any fighting, nor do i enjoy it but it feels good to give a scanger a good kicking.

petes · 13-11-2006 02:46PM

WhizzGDK wrote:

My own experience of ifghting isnt a great one,

Outside of school antics:
Guy grabbed my missus' ass in a club a while back, I lost my temper, Aimed for the head and threw as many punches as i could before the security kicked me out. He got his dues, i was happy.

I felt safe because i was in a club and knew the security would be there soon enough, we left the scene quickly incase he had some friends.

Was having a ciggerette outside a bar in dunboyne last year and this guy comes up claiming to know me, i was convincing him i didnt know him and he accused me of getting smart "if yer gettin' smart i'll crack yer head for ya bud"

I took the warning and smashed the butt of my bottle into his face a few times, (i used the butt so it wouldn't break, not for his sake but i didnt want it to cut me), gave him a few kicks to the body when he went down. there was no security so i grabbed my stuff and jumped in a taxi straight away to avoid meeting his scanger friends.

I think i did the right thing, I didnt think about anything at the time just the best way out of the situation. as for knowing my physical capabilities, I use the advantage of most scangers not expecting an all out attack. I never trained in any fighting, nor do i enjoy it but it feels good to give a scanger a good kicking.

And you are calling them scangers.

connundrum · 13-11-2006 02:54PM

tbh wrote:

are you sure he was the tosser??

60% - tongue in cheek, 30% - he was a tosser who should have been minding his own business inanyways, 10% - it fit the ending line - 'Don't get involved in domestics'.

:cool:

WhizzGDK wrote:

I took the warning and smashed the butt of my bottle into his face a few times, (i used the butt so it wouldn't break, not for his sake but i didnt want it to cut me), gave him a few kicks to the body when he went down. there was no security so i grabbed my stuff and jumped in a taxi straight away to avoid meeting his scanger friends.

File under: Things not to brag about.

phantom_lord · 13-11-2006 02:54PM

petes wrote:

And you are calling them scangers.

just what I was thinking.

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:13PM

fair enough i have a big chip on my shoulder when iit comes to scum, i hate them all with a passion and really enjoying beating them into the ground.

as regards bragging, i didnt realise this was only for sob stories about running away. well i dont run away, and am proud that i have the balls to make a stand.

and on the point of wheather it m,akes my GF horney, the answer is no, it scares her because it is the only time she has seen me loose my temper.

tbh · 13-11-2006 03:15PM

I think the point is that in most people's eyes, you are as big a scumbag as the lads you're boasting about battering.

Marksie · 13-11-2006 03:20PM

Da Bounca wrote:

Fighting is dumb.

On the other hand it would be nice to know one's physical capabilities.

Yeah take up a martial art (mine was taekwondo). strangely enough though, as you learn the techniques and the sparring and your own abilities... the first tenant becomes most important.... and what that, if you can ............run away.

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:20PM

tbh wrote:

I think the point is that in most people's eyes, you are as big a scumbag as the lads you're boasting about battering.

I think this is due to shame for not standing up for yourself.
how does not being bullied or pushed around by scum makes me a scumbag too?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-11-2006 03:26PM

you smashed a bottle into someones face for a verbal warning, you punched someone in the face repeatedly for grabbing your girlfriends arse.

you are a scumbag, don't be so ashamed of your heritage.

tbh · 13-11-2006 03:29PM

what mordeth said.

basically, non-scumbags walk away.

fact.

Dragan · 13-11-2006 03:31PM

WhizzGDK wrote:

how does not being bullied or pushed around by scum makes me a scumbag too?

The simple fact of the matter is that you pretty much committed assault twice ( that you have told us about )....in both those situations you threw the first blow so to speak.

Neither chap from what i can see had given you reason to attack them. A guy touched your girlfriends ass? Big deal man, happens all the time and i can bet dollars to donuts your girlfriend is more than able to deal with that.

A guy verbally threatens you? Wow, let him walk off man as opposed to smashing a bottle into his face.

The funny thing is that as a doorman you are the worst kind of customer than any pub or club can have, the type who cannot deal with his emotions or stressful situations like an adult and resorts to violence as a way to make himself feel better about them.

I say that as an experienced doorman, and am just trying to point out that your actions in each case were extreme and uncalled for, regardless of what way you want to think about it.

The simple fact is that you assaulted two people because the only answer you can think off in a tense situation is violence.

To me that implies that you are scared of something, and while it might not be a fight i suggest you ask yourself a lot of questions about why you lash out like that.

Eventually it will happen and someone will be there to put you back in your place my friend.

connundrum · 13-11-2006 03:35PM

WhizzGDK wrote:

fair enough i have a big chip on my shoulder when iit comes to scum, i hate them all with a passion and really enjoying beating them into the ground..

Again, point out the scumbag to me? I'd avoid this type confrontation by simply not engaging the scummer. The only time I've been involved in a fight is where someone has actually struck out at my first. A scumbag 'throwing shapes' at you does not justify a bottel in the face.

Good luck the next time he sees you outside that pub again.

WhizzGDK wrote:

as regards bragging, i didnt realise this was only for sob stories about running away. well i dont run away, and am proud that i have the balls to make a stand..

There are many things people could brag about, but choose not to for fear of coming across as a muppet. Point in case.

WhizzGDK wrote:

and on the point of wheather it m,akes my GF horney, the answer is no, it scares her because it is the only time she has seen me loose my temper.

Was that brought up before? Oh well.. some girls love it, but they are generally the same girls you'll find lying facedown in a ditch on the way home after a night out.

MikeHoncho · 13-11-2006 03:38PM

Fighting is something I have largely been able to avoid in my life (Touch Wood). My only real experience was on a night off at a bar I worked at in Boston. A fight broke out and seeing as the bouncers were my workmates I decided to give them a hand in calmly walking the 2 partys down the hallway between the bars to the outside so they could continue to beat the snot out of each other on the street. Just as I got to the door it all kicked off and I was thrown into the glass door shattering it everywhere. Managed to stumble my way to the safety of the main bar which was closing up with only a few cuts and scrapes.

I have never been in a fight in Ireland. I am 24 and in general the places I go people are around my age and I rarely see any trouble. That being said on the few times recently where I visited a nightclub which would have a typically younger crowd I have noticed that people are so inconsiderate of others that Im not surprised when a fight kicks off. And its not just "scumbags" either. Its usually middle class self righteous little s***s that cause the trouble that ive seen.

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:39PM

your right, im scared of being on the recieving end, if i feel i am about to get the sh1t kicked out of me then i will strike first.

and the guy that grabbed my girls ass was taunting, i lost my temper. maybe i should have walked away but in my opinion he got what he deserved.

Im sure as an experienced door man you have to say that the worst customer is the one going around looking for trouble, not the one who will respond.

tbh · 13-11-2006 03:42PM

connundrum wrote:

Was that brought up before? Oh well.. some girls love it, but they are generally the same girls you'll find lying facedown in a ditch on the way home after a night out.

screaming "BATTERIM! IF YA LOVE ME YOU'LL BATTERIM!"

NeMiSiS · 13-11-2006 03:42PM

Some ****ers are just out for a row, they obviously aint getting laid enough or have some other malfunction. I have been in a few.. one was pretty god damn scarey, as the guy was gigantic.. I'm 6ft .. and he was towering over me.. big farmer asshole.. started swinging big hay bailers, I just out the head down and back out the door of the place.. ended up with barely more than a scractch on me.. know when to fight.. know when to run.

I've "outsmarted" people trying to start fights with me too I dunno if outsmarted is the right way to describe... but for example once.. I had a guy saying how how him and his mate were going to glass me and how he was gonna get his mates... I introduced myself and said "Hello, how are you my name is Tom,and your name is ?" can't remeber what he was called but I said "It's nice to meet you", then did the same to his other mate who was threatning to bottle me, and said "OK lads, you go get all your other mates and I'l be waiting here for you, and you can all glass me". They walked away going "Ok yeh, we will! Uh.." and me still going "Nice to meet you lads!" like a ****ing Jedi mind trick or something..

I've done that on other occasions too, once with 7 lads sourrouding me.. and walked away from it all.. them thinking Ii was "crazy or something". Funny thing I was went and got a pick axe handle and went back after them,and then ran away like a bunch of ladies.

In short use the horse Luke, lot better than picking your teeth up (which I have done also)

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:43PM

And Dragan, you need to ask yourself why you are a career doorman? either big and dumb with no other way to make money or you love the power trip.

kettle pot etc

aidan_walsh · 13-11-2006 03:44PM

Dragan, you need to ask yourself why you are a career doorman? either big and dumb with no other way to make money or you love the power trip.

Is this the kind of crap you feed people who "provoke" you?

Lynfo · 13-11-2006 03:45PM

Pighead wrote:

Chicks mightn't admit it but they get all warm and tingly when they see a man fight. Of course the fight has to be for a valid reason( ie defending someones honour or righting a wrong) or else its just thuggery

Sit any girl down on a sofa and make them watch Fight Club and watch the results. Pighead guarantees that when the films over they will have flushed cheeks and when they walk across the room they will leave a glistening trail behind them much like a snail would on a cold winters morn.

Pighead that's cos of Brad Pitt - speaking as a 'chick' I don't actually like violence and it turns me right off. just my humble opinion

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-11-2006 03:45PM

going by his post I wouldn't think dumb is a word you could easily use to describe Dragan.. he seemed to put a bit of thought into his post. he made his point quickly, cleanly and with little fuss.

pot, kettle.. cup of tea

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:49PM

then i guess it is the second option

a power trip

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-11-2006 03:52PM

that or the money.

WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:52PM

aidan_walsh wrote:

Is this the kind of crap you feed people who "provoke" you?

I wasnt provoked

situation1) my girlfriend was sexually assaulted

2)i was threatened with my back to a wall, rather than wait to see if it was hallow i stuck first

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WhizzGDK · 13-11-2006 03:54PM

Mordeth wrote:

that or the money.

Im sure the money isnt good enough for the danger that goes with it.

let the man speak for himself

Dragan · 13-11-2006 03:58PM

WhizzGDK wrote:

And Dragan, you need to ask yourself why you are a career doorman? either big and dumb with no other way to make money or you love the power trip.

kettle pot etc

Oh i am definitely big, have no fear about that. The dumb bit however i cannot help you with.

Now them, i said as an experienced doorman. Sorry if you took that to mean that i am currently a doorman, as i am not, although i do go back from time to time to help out friends who are stuck for bodies.

I currently work doing statistical analysis for one for one of the biggest companies in Ireland, so thank god my tiny doorman brain can get me through the day.

It seems to me that you maybe do not like having stuff told to you like it is, from an outside perspective? Hence jumping on the defensive there?

I suggest you either change you attitude when you are out or you just go on like you are and deal with the consequences. I really don't think too many people here care either way.

Finally, one last word of advice, the next time you get in a fight and your girlfriend is upset over it, ask her is she upset out of fear FOR you being injured, or is she upset out of fear OF you and your temper.

As for career doormen, i know plenty, good men and smart most of them. The simple fact is that jobs need doing, and by the sounds of it if there were no doormen you'd have been on the bad end of a hiding by now as no one would be there to save you from your victims friends.

Dragan out!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-11-2006 03:59PM

no, he's too dumb to be trusted to answer correctly!

connundrum · 13-11-2006 04:01PM

WhizzGDK wrote:

Im sure as an experienced door man you have to say that the worst customer is the one going around looking for trouble, not the one who will respond.

A fight under any circumstance is worse IMO. If I caught a guy who insisted on going round randomly grabbing girl's bums - then I'd only need to throw him out, and he generally would go quietly out of embarrassment.

In a situation where a bf responds, I would have to deal with 2 or more guys who are swinging, as well as the hysterical girlfriend and/or passers-by.

So the ideal situation would be where you report this guy to a bouncer, and the bouncer throws him out. No one gets bottled and the night continues happily.

Throughout your life, people will always rile you and try to get on your t1ts. Are you going to glass them all?

Fisticuffs.

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