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Fisticuffs.

  • 12-11-2006 11:10am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    You're not missing anything.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Clever Protein


    You haven't committed suicide either, I bet that's a once in a lifetime experience too.

    Fighting is dumb


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you better not diss samurai jack mother****er


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Da Bounca


    Fighting is dumb.

    On the other hand it would be nice to know one's physical capabilities.

    Fighting is without doubt, part of every single human being's ( if not every creature's) natural defense system. Some obiously embrace this more than others and tend to fight regularly and for no particular reason, your burger story for example. This is stupid.

    As for missing out. Well, you are missing out, but missing out on something bad. So you're sort of not missing out...

    You could always take up boxing or cage fighting, or something.
    A fight that isn't fuelled by madness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭J.R.HARTLEY



    So, have you ever been in a fight? details.....?

    T.Sc.
    havin worked as a bar man for ages i had to get into the middle of a lot of fights, one asshole broke my nose once while i was saving him from getting his ass kicked, so then i had to be pulled off him cause i was intent on kickin the tar out of him, simple answer slap yourself hard on the nose, poke yourself in the eye and get someone to give you a ballshot if you don't like it don't get in a fight cause your missing nothing.

    ps why do so many irish men fight like bloody punch and judy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    ps why do so many irish men fight like bloody punch and judy

    What they beat each other with strings of sausages !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Chicks mightn't admit it but they get all warm and tingly when they see a man fight. Of course the fight has to be for a valid reason( ie defending someones honour or righting a wrong) or else its just thuggery

    Sit any girl down on a sofa and make them watch Fight Club and watch the results. Pighead guarantees that when the films over they will have flushed cheeks and when they walk across the room they will leave a glistening trail behind them much like a snail would on a cold winters morn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    POTW! :D

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Owh, Pighead. Thats disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I'll fight ya!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I broke some bloke's jaw in first year, 20 odd years ago. Haven't so much as thrown a punch since, but hten I don't drink a lot and I hate pubs and nightclubs so I'm probably low risk.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pighead wrote:
    Chicks mightn't admit it but they get all warm and tingly when they see a man fight. Of course the fight has to be for a valid reason( ie defending someones honour or righting a wrong) or else its just thuggery

    Sit any girl down on a sofa and make them watch Fight Club and watch the results. Pighead guarantees that when the films over they will have flushed cheeks and when they walk across the room they will leave a glistening trail behind them much like a snail would on a cold winters morn.

    Depends on which man. If it's Pighead's woman and Pighead's taking a thumping, will Pighead's woman still have the warm and tingly feeling?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    So firstly allow me to clear up that i'm not a scumbag and that I in no way condone voilence etc... but still, in my drunken walk home i thought it was a valid argument. Am i missing out in a fundamental life experience? Engaging in some form of physical conflict with a counterpart?

    When i mean i have'nt fought anyone i mean i havent been in a fight, ever... not even in the school playground. I have always seemed to be able to talk my way out of such situations.

    So, have you ever been in a fight? details.....?

    Never? Not once in your 12 odd years of school, and I dont know how many years of drinking, that you never came across one gob****e who either provoked you or hit you? I was watching Bernard Dunne last night and thought jaysus, hes a true schoolyard or outside the pub brawler with the moves on him :D

    I was down in Cavan on the tear last night and I tell you, whilst in Dublin you are more likely to be a victim of robbery, and more people get stabbed or shot, in the country you are god knows how many times more likely to get into a fight with some knobend who has been drinking since before midday, they are simply more violent, alcoholic ignorant people. In a Dublin club if you bump into a guy, even a skanger, 99% of the time its a pat on the back and no worries bud. In the country, if someone bumps into YOU theyll treat it as a severe sleight on their person, ****ing ****. In a club in Dublin, if you are on the floor dancing up to some bird and her man comes in, he usually puts his arm around her to signify "sorry shes taken" and its all good, fair play. The play in the country is you dance up to a bird and you get a push to the chest from her man, and if you are drunk enough you retaliate (thankfully I was grand so I said **** it, I cant be arsed with a brawl tonight im here for a laugh). Honestly, last night me and my friend were involved in maybe 5 near rows with ignorant pricks with too much in them. Most nights in Dublin we wouldnt be involved in one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    people from 'the country' are generally grand to other people from 'the country', we're just not all that fond of dubs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    Depends on which man. If it's Pighead's woman and Pighead's taking a thumping, will Pighead's woman still have the warm and tingly feeling?
    Depends what day it is. If its today we're talking about, then yes, yes she would. We're probably talking screaming orgasms here as she watches my once handsome face get mashed and bloodied by her brutal hero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    Fights out side training: 1
    Fights as part of training: many.

    All of them were never fun, im not the fighting type and the few time I have had to get myself out of a fight situation I have done the wise thing and walked/run away. Many people will say its cowardly but take up a martial art for a few years (~12) and you can learn how much fun a fight is(not) and all about your physical capabilities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Mordeth wrote:
    people from 'the country' are generally grand to other people from 'the country', we're just not all that fond of dubs :)

    Thats odd, as the last time i was down in the space of an hour (around 10:30 to 11:30) i saw no less than 4 brawls between big red faced rope-armed boyos have to be broken up by the bouncers. They hate outsiders, locals and everyone else ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Some drunken idiot calling you mother a whore (or whatever) doesn't really hurt (especially considering the source) ...a broken nose or some missing teeth on the other hand hurt like hell.

    Also consider the risk of inflicting some serious damage. Fellow human beings aren't that sturdily buildt really and one wrong swing can handicap for life or even kill.

    Never been in a fight and have every intention of keeping it that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Da Bounca wrote:
    On the other hand it would be nice to know one's physical capabilities.
    Unless you're trained to the point where you'll almost always get into the right state of mind in such an event there's a lot of randomness to how fights go in any case.

    I've been attacked a few times and would say that how I acquitted myself in each varied considerably from doing very badly, doing very well, and getting out of it by sheer blind luck (literally, I had my eyes closed in panic).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pighead wrote:
    Depends what day it is. If its today we're talking about, then yes, yes she would. We're probably talking screaming orgasms here as she watches my once handsome face get mashed and bloodied by her brutal hero.

    Pighead's woman has a very srtrange understanding of the word "foreplay". "Oh, hurt me!" she maoned, "No, one second thoughts, hurt Pighead"...

    Did Pighead just refer to himself in the first person...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    Did Pighead just refer to himself in the first person...?

    That must be the most common sentence on boards!

    He does do it every now and again, you know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    That must be the most common sentence on boards!

    He does do it every now and again, you know!
    Dear God... is nothing sacred any more...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I got in a bitch fight in 6th class. There was hair-pulling and slapping. She started it, I just had to protect myself. It hurt and I cried for the rest of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I absolutely loath fighting and if theres one about to break out, you'll usually find me trying to talk it down. That said, I've been in a fair few fights over the years. Its always a case where I'm defending myself though, having tried to talk it down at first and finding a fist thrown my way I naturally, and understandably, had to defend myself.

    Knackers seem to want to "start" on me over absolutely anything!Seriously! One night, I had some little scumbag approach me as I was outside a club waiting for a taxi and "start" on me over my haircut! I couldn't believe it, he was there asking was I a homo (though I've never considered any of my haircuts to be stereotypically homosexual, though I'm straight myself), which I replied "No, but if I was, how would it be your problem?". Well, knackers don't like things that they've to think about it seems, so the little shíte tried to loaf me.
    In that case though, there were more of my friends with me than his friends with him (there was about 7 of us and only 3 of them, one who wanted nothing to do with it), so I explained in my calmest voice that if he tried that again, himself and his friends might not be so lucky as to not get a reaction and that they'd be best off leaving immediately. Hailed a taxi for them and told them to get into it, which they promptly did and the little knacker turns around on the back seat as they're pulling away and gives me the finger!Was quite funny at the time.

    Another time a guy "started" on me over a top I was wearing, some knackers seem to want to just fight me because (as they have said) I'm a "poshie", one time they kicked it off over the brand of cigarettes I was smoking...the list is endless. I don't think I've ever been "started on"/confronted by anyone I'd consider a decent member of society though, if theres a confrontation with them (as there occasionally has been) its always been talked over.

    The most recent was when I was attacked about two weeks ago, after trying to talk down a fight with these two knackers who wanted a fight for absolutely no reason, literally, one of them pounced on me. Held my own for a while but was soon outnumbered(their "buds" arrived), then they tried to crack a few bottles on my head but failed followed by them whipping out their knives. In that situation I did the sensible thing and ran. I think the fact that they were carrying knives was enough to prove to myself that I was in no way at fault, that they were just out looking for trouble.

    So, theres a few stories for ya The Scientist :) Theres no point in going into ones that turned into proper fights really.

    Again, I absolutely loath fighting and find it completely unnecessary although I will defend myself when I have to, some people are just violent I guess and won't listen to common sense. You're missing out on absolutely nothing by not being involved in them though I think you've just been lucky so far as to avoid a single one of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Last Night whilst queing at at my local fast food establishment in my native Cork City i witnessed a one on one brawl on the street.

    Hillbillies by any chance? I saw one there Halloween night, its funny to see for a few seconds then thats about it.

    Iv only been in one playground fight, but that was stupid kids stuff. At this age, fighting is just a senseless thing. I wouldnt even argue with strangers(unless its a match, but not to a stage where fighting occurs). OP, your not missing out on aything, unless your desperate to do it. A local lad ws in court a few weeks ago chrged for manslaughter. He hit another guy who fell to the ground. His head hit the ground upon impact. when he got home, he died due to the blow on the head...its a dangerous thing. Sure look at Club Anabell's case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Some people are just jinxed. I lived in the city center of Dublin for 22 years and never once had any trouble walking around on a weekend night. However my friend (and his brother) who lives nearby seems to walk into trouble almost every time he's out. It must be a vibe the knackers pick up on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    PiE wrote:
    It must be a vibe the knackers pick up on.

    Maybe so! But for quite a time I was going to the gym a lot, was quite built (though I still am to an extent, but not nearly as) and yet these scrawny little shíts seemed to want to have a go whenever they could!
    And I don't fear knackers, so its not like they're picking that up (in the same way animals do)! Perhaps they just see the clothes I wear or something and presume I came from a good background and are therefore less likely to be half decent at defending myself...I don't know...If it is some "vibe", I wish there was a spray or something to get rid of it because its seriously annoying me at this stage :mad:

    That said, its not often I'm involved in a fight. Before that one two weeks ago, it was a long time since there'd been a confrontation that I wasn't able to talk down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    In primary school a guy was wrecking my head for about a week, tried a few times to get him to stop actin the maggot but of course it only made him worse. Ended up grabbin his head and smashing it against a stoney wall. We didn't see him for a week, but he didn't even whisper at me from then on. Didn't feel bad as I was about 10 at the time, it was probably a little OTT but at least i've never been in a bad fight since :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    I've hit one guy in the face and got hit by another. Nothing stemmed from either of those situations though.

    I love seeing strangers kick the **** out of each other. It's quality entertainment. I'd rather not get involved though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭me and the biz


    At a 21st/50th last night. At the end of the night a girl got into a fight with some guy, her boyfriend got involved... lots more people got involved trying to break it up. Result is the night is completely ruined.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭scop


    I've been in some random fights, and almost always the outcome is a confused few minutes whereby you may or may not be injured. Its basically a way to wreck your clothes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    So firstly allow me to clear up that i'm not a scumbag and that I in no way condone voilence etc... but still, in my drunken walk home i thought it was a valid argument. Am i missing out in a fundamental life experience? Engaging in some form of physical conflict with a counterpart?

    I spent a large part of my late teens and early twenties dealing with violent situations. Both in my job as a door man, and out of a desire to keep my friends safe.

    I can happily tell you that you are not missing much.

    If you would like to see how you would do in a "conflict" situation i suggest you take up boxing or MT and train that...it is great fun, you spar and you learn a lot about yourself.

    Keep things in your life postive, do not question the negatives that never happen. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Pighead wrote:
    Chicks mightn't admit it but they get all warm and tingly when they see a man fight. Of course the fight has to be for a valid reason( ie defending someones honour or righting a wrong) or else its just thuggery

    Sit any girl down on a sofa and make them watch Fight Club and watch the results. Pighead guarantees that when the films over they will have flushed cheeks and when they walk across the room they will leave a glistening trail behind them much like a snail would on a cold winters morn.

    Haha, that's signature material. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I've been in a good few fights alright but good control on my part always prevents really serious developments.

    As I don't mean "I battered them senseless." Just a few times when I've been swung at I've dodged and been able tackle the other party and keep them down until someone else steps in to break it up....I'm not a fan of violence so I prefer to try and hold the situation down then escalate it.

    Have been headbutted though (and had my face smashed into the kerb pretty badly, which I'd rather forget, although despite what it sounds like I was able to walk away or more accurately get 'back into the fight'), amongst other things, just never been involved in an actual fist fight. A fist fight is a situation I'd really try to avoid at all costs, one well placed punch from someone who knows what they're doing can do unimaginable damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭qwytre


    Well OP, you could get in a fight thats tame enough and come out none the worse for wear. Or you could end up getting a right beating like a guy I know. He has had to have plastic surgery on his lips as they were badly cut, they will never be back to normal and are a bit out of shape permanently now.

    Never been in a serious fight myself thankfully, I would be really afraid of getting glassed into the face as ome guy threatened to do to me once. It was in a nightclub and like other posters it seems some people are just assholes and want a fight. I try to avoid them and have done up 'till now.

    I did get a punch from behind once which just gave me a bloody nose. Some drunk idiot took a dislike to me telling him to go away as I was on a phone call at the time. I was glad to be able to pull the guy by headlock into the pub I was in and got the bouncers to hold him and called the guards. The scumbag legged it out through an exit door with the bouncers chasing after him, they eventually caught him and dragged him back.

    It ended up in court, he got a 500 euro fine. At least I got justice :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I used to get in fights quite regularly in primary school, but haven't been in one since. I'm a bit of a wuss when I'm put in a situation that might lead to a fight! Probably cos I've not been in one in years. So I always try my best to avoid them.

    But the funny thing is that I'm actually a good fighter! And I'm quite strong!

    I was always able to kick my mates' asses, and cos I've done a bit of Jiu Jitsu training I'm quite good at controlling much bigger blokes, so I could hold someone down quite easily if they were around my size.

    I'm quite interested in seeing how I'd handle myself in an actual street fight though. I'd like to think that I'd be quite calm and pace myself like an actual martial arts fight, but the reality is that it's alot more frantic and uncoordinated, so I doubt it.

    I actually think the reason that I never got into fights after primary school is because there ceased to be such thing as a 'straightener'. It was always "I'll get my brother/cousin/sister/nephew after you", or if you beat someone's ass you'd have your windows put through or their mates would jump in. There was no such thing as a one-on-one fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Sure ya may as well like... :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭maxi-twist


    Ive been in one or two in the last month.Nothing before that.I didnt start them or anything,but the night life of south dublin with high testosterone levels accounts for that.
    Some idiots do it for fun,going up to people and just punching them,thats what happened to me.
    I got the best feeling for hitting him back and then realising there were guards literally right behind me!they let me go cos it was in self defence!Decided not to press charges....mostly cos it wasnt too serious.
    The adrenaline u get from being in one is pretty good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    DaveMcG wrote:
    But the funny thing is that I'm actually a good fighter! And I'm quite strong!

    Nothin' funny about it Dave, you're a Tallaght man, its in yer blood to be a fighter!



    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yeah, I'm a tiger! Hear me rAwR! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    DaveMcG wrote:
    Yeah, I'm a tiger! Hear me rAwR! :mad:
    Just don't go losing any fights Dave that you do decide to enter (though your Tallaght blood should give you an edge over even the toughest of travellers), I hear they'll make you wear a bell and live in a wheelie bin in the Square car park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I've been in a coupla brawls, both as a barman and as a punter.

    The only fistycuffs I was involved in was with a small guy.. I pretty much held him in a head lock till he tired his little self out. The lil fecker still managed to rip me favourite shirt :(

    I was in a (what started out as) fistycuffs a coupla months ago.. but that quickly disintegrated into a "C'mon lads, lets all kick the crap outa Connundrum while he's down on the groud" session. :(

    I'm not much into the aul fighting, I think I actually prefer breaking them up. What is the story with the amount of alchohol induced testosterone floating about amongst young lads these days :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    connundrum wrote:
    What is the story with the amount of alchohol induced testosterone floating about amongst young lads these days :confused:

    I'm not too sure tbh, an awful lot of young lads are training hard in the gym, using creatine etc. which I would have thought may have an affect on their aggression (especially while under the influence). I don't know if thats credible though. There certainly is a lot of young serious rugby guys kicking lumps out of eachother most weekends after clubs though, whether its just a club vs club thing or pure macho-ism I don't know. It wasn't happening to the same extent when I was in 6th year anyway.

    Then you've got little knackers, as I mentioned in an above post, it seems a load of these little shíts just go out looking for a fight or trouble. They are scumbags afterall, and they didn't get that name for nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭maxi-twist


    rb_ie wrote:
    I'm not too sure tbh, an awful lot of young lads are training hard in the gym, using creatine etc. which I would have thought may have an affect on their aggression (especially while under the influence). I don't know if thats credible though. There certainly is a lot of young serious rugby guys kicking lumps out of eachother most weekends after clubs though, whether its just a club vs club thing or pure macho-ism I don't know. It wasn't happening to the same extent when I was in 6th year anyway.

    Then you've got little knackers, as I mentioned in an above post, it seems a load of these little shíts just go out looking for a fight or trouble. They are scumbags afterall, and they didn't get that name for nothing.

    i know a few lads that take creo before they go out cos it gets them buzzin!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm 23 now and I haven't been in a fight in years. But I was in plenty during my early teens as I went to some fairly rough schools. Although I've been in a quite a few near fights since that were defused. I think I'd be as useless in a fight now as I was then. My problem is I have a bad temper and can be easily provoked by aggressive behavior.

    One thing I learned from the school yard was how most aggression is bluffed. The ones who shout and threaten the most have something to prove and are usually cowards. Its the quiet ones you need to be careful of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭fish-head


    I was in a fight once in 1st year. Beat the ****e out of a guy who had been bullying me for a while. I just cracked. Haven't been in one since, I can't stand it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭pvt. joker


    drunken fights suck. you wake up the next day and feel like you fell off the top of a 2 story building


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