N.ireland V Ireland As A Place To Live

dj9928 · 15-09-2006 10:57PM #1

I live in Co,derry much to my disliking we are still under Tony Blair, I can't help but think you guys below the border are so much better of than us up north, The vast majority of us up here are on or are slightly above the min wage at £5.15 per hour for 22+, we can't get anymore due to poles etc pricing us out of the market, we can't afford houses as the average 3 bed semi is now at £130k, we can;t afford to put petrol in our cars as thats at 95p per litre, and they talk about rip off Ireland, Not to mentions benefits being amongest the lowest in europe roughly £45 per week for a single person on JSA. Move across the border, Not to mention car insurance, the highest in the UK dispiye having the lowest level of crime in the UK.

They say there is now no middle class in Northern ireland, just upper and lower

Sand · 15-09-2006 11:09PM

130K sterling for a three bed house? Might just about cover a 2 bed lean-to in West Meath, a mere 4 hour commute through Dublin traffic.

dj9928 · 15-09-2006 11:15PM

Sand wrote:

130K sterling for a three bed house? Might just about cover a 2 bed lean-to in West Meath, a mere 4 hour commute through Dublin traffic.

I don't know what min wage is in Ireland but i bet its more than £5.15, So £130k is alot, only teachers doctors etc will get a mortgage for that

Dave! · 15-09-2006 11:31PM

We have the same complaints down here buddy!

lodgepole · 15-09-2006 11:34PM

Based on xe.com's current rates, our minimum wage is almost exactly the same as yours.

£5.15 is €7.64520.

That said, if a lot of people are earning that amount I imagine getting a mortgage is very hard. I'm on well above our minimum wage and I won't be getting a mortgage anytime soon.

KdjaCL · 15-09-2006 11:35PM

Least you have a decent football team to watch.

kdjac

pred racer · 15-09-2006 11:37PM

I visit Derry quite a bit and I love it, but I think Id rather live in the south.
As a southern prod I get abuse (mostly good natured) from all bloody sides:D

dj9928 · 15-09-2006 11:39PM

Lodgepole wrote:

Based on xe.com's current rates, our minimum wage is almost exactly the same as yours.

£5.15 is €7.64520.

That said, if a lot of people are earning that amount I imagine getting a mortgage is very hard. I'm on well above our minimum wage and I won't be getting a mortgage anytime soon.

Hmm i thought u guys were better of, obviously not, i do know u have higher rates of benefits

dj9928 · 15-09-2006 11:41PM

pred racer wrote:

I visit Derry quite a bit and I love it, but I think Id rather live in the south.
As a southern prod I get abuse (mostly good natured) from all bloody sides:D

l'm actually from Liverpool, Moved over here 10 years ago, think I should of stayed over there

KdjaCL · 16-09-2006 12:08AM

dj9928 wrote:

Hmm i thought u guys were better of, obviously not, i do know u have higher rates of benefits

How many homeless in the north ?

kdjac

dj9928 · 16-09-2006 12:21AM

KdjaCL wrote:

How many homeless in the north ?

kdjac

Don;t have a clue

darkman2 · 16-09-2006 12:52AM

The problem with the North is that the economy relies on the public sector. Your basically paying your own wages!!

smashey · 16-09-2006 01:04AM

I went to the Doctor yesterday and was charged €40 for the pleasure followed by another €11.50 for tablets. I'm moving to Strabane soon and will get free medical. I will also be able to buy a new car a lot cheaper than I can now.

Snowbie · 16-09-2006 01:27AM

KdjaCL wrote:

Least you have a decent football team to watch.

kdjac

Anybody who beats the brits and spanish are friends of mine.NI cough

Snowbie · 16-09-2006 01:30AM

dj9928 wrote:

l'm actually from Liverpool, Moved over here 10 years ago, think I should of stayed over there

I say you have a very funny accent now.

16-09-2006 01:36AM

You're way better off in the North. You might think it's expensive but it's nothing compared to most of the South. 130,000 for a 3 bed semi is much cheaper than most places in Ireland, and almost all of England. I lived in a 3 bed house near Liverpool as a child and that house is now worth about 400,000 sterling. I find food and clothes significantly cheaper in the North. I'm not saying NI is a cheap place to live but the Republic is even more of a rip off.

Padwick · 16-09-2006 02:11AM

I've just moved from the south up to Tyrone after being practically living there for the past 6 months anyway and I find it so much better.
My wages are the same and I've gonr from paying €275p/m to share a house in Dublin to paying £400p/m to rent my own and I'm still better off.
The biggest difference is that the government in NI look after people in need of help so much better. Not that I'm looking myself but I see it with people I know. Groceries, mobile phone costs, and general entertainment would be the biggest differences I'd see. There's a huge leap in prices down south.

pred racer · 16-09-2006 02:24AM

dj9928 wrote:

I live in Co,derry much to my disliking we are still under Tony Blair, I can't help but think you guys below the border are so much better of than us up north, The vast majority of us up here are on or are slightly above the min wage at £5.15 per hour for 22+, we can't get anymore due to poles etc pricing us out of the market, we can't afford houses as the average 3 bed semi is now at £130k, we can;t afford to put petrol in our cars as thats at 95p per litre, and they talk about rip off Ireland, Not to mentions benefits being amongest the lowest in europe roughly £45 per week for a single person on JSA. Move across the border, Not to mention car insurance, the highest in the UK dispiye having the lowest level of crime in the UK.

They say there is now no middle class in Northern ireland, just upper and lower

Why dont you move down and see how you get on?

shane86 · 16-09-2006 02:44AM

dj9928 wrote:

l'm actually from Liverpool, Moved over here 10 years ago, think I should of stayed over there

Feckin Poles/Scousers/whatever tAking our jobs/benefits/women.

In fairness, move back to Liverpool. The upside of Engand is you can buy a gaff in whats considereda a bad area for an affordable price.

Gaffs in the roughest most notorious estates in Blanch dont go for under 220,000. Its affordable if yiv a fairly good job, but only just. **** Bertie

16-09-2006 08:15AM

When it comes up in discussions, the general image of NI in So Cal is that it's unsafe. They still think of The Troubles.

uberpixie · 16-09-2006 08:48AM

shane86 wrote:

Feckin Poles/Scousers/whatever tAking our jobs/benefits/women.

In fairness, move back to Liverpool. The upside of Engand is you can buy a gaff in whats considereda a bad area for an affordable price.

Gaffs in the roughest most notorious estates in Blanch dont go for under 220,000. Its affordable if yiv a fairly good job, but only just. **** Bertie

Move to Limerick, you can get a house in Moyross for €30,000 last I heard :-)

luckat · 16-09-2006 09:06AM

Not all about money, eh.

faceman · 16-09-2006 07:20PM

As beautiful some parts of NI are i wouldnt live there. Cost of living is cheap but salaries are low too. I had 2 mates who married northern girls and laughed at us "paddies" paying out on high mortgages.

one of those friends has been unemployed a few times due to poor construction industry opportunities. The other mate is a knob but thats not anyone from NI's fault i guess! lol

dj9928 · 16-09-2006 07:34PM

Pay up here is awful, the lowest in the UK, apparantly we earn on average £100 per week less than our English counterparts and food etc is more expensive here than in England, infact houses are the only thing that is cheaper here than the rest of the UK

Catney · 17-09-2006 02:44PM

Sand wrote:

130K sterling for a three bed house? Might just about cover a 2 bed lean-to in West Meath, a mere 4 hour commute through Dublin traffic.

Wrong way to look at this. Firstly wages in the north are about a third less than in the republic. Secondly their interest rates are currently running at 1.75% above ours. This would reduce their ability to borrow the equivalent of about GBP 40,000. ie we can borrow EUR 60,000 more and actually have the same mortgage payment. Mix these 2 facts together and basically they have it harder up there. Relatively speaking houses are less affordable.

By the way NI house prices were one of the highest risers on the planet this year, double the growth of the republic. Which always makes me laugh considering everytime I talk to a Ni person they say how crazy we free staters are paying so much for houses.

Catney · 17-09-2006 02:46PM

Lodgepole wrote:

Based on xe.com's current rates, our minimum wage is almost exactly the same as yours.

£5.15 is €7.64520.

That said, if a lot of people are earning that amount I imagine getting a mortgage is very hard. I'm on well above our minimum wage and I won't be getting a mortgage anytime soon.

I dont think this is right, our min wage is EUR 10.50, could be wrong though

Catney · 17-09-2006 02:48PM

Catney wrote:

I dont think this is right, our min wage is EUR 10.50, could be wrong though

dammit i am wrong!!! anyway GDP is a better measure. We earn about 50% more

LundiMardi · 17-09-2006 02:57PM

dj9928 wrote:

Not to mention car insurance, the highest in the UK dispiye having the lowest level of crime in the UK.

Oh, i'd love to hear some car insurance quotes... I really would.

dj9928 · 17-09-2006 03:38PM

So we can rap this up by saying its rip of Northern Ireland rather than rip off Ireland

dj9928 · 17-09-2006 03:39PM

LundiMardi wrote:

Oh, i'd love to hear some car insurance quotes... I really would.

Its because of the troubles in the past, Look at the UK adverts on TV for car insurance, at the bottom it always says (Not available in northern ireland)

dj9928 · 17-09-2006 03:41PM

Catney wrote:

dammit i am wrong!!! anyway GDP is a better measure. We earn about 50% more

A rough stab would say Ireland is on par with mainland UK in terms of wages and costs of living

N.ireland V Ireland As A Place To Live

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