PS3 production begins..

iregk · 11-08-2006 12:08AM

monument wrote:

I don’t remember commenting on when it was first release. From DVDs to PS2s their peaks were a good distance away from their launches.

True but nobody disputed that!

monument wrote:

MP3 players killed the mass market for the MD format.

The MD was dead before MP3 players really started to take hold. The mp3 player in their second wave when they started to get serious put the final nail in the coffin but it failed to beat the CD walkman by then anyway!

wayne040576 · 11-08-2006 09:02AM

iregk wrote:

True but nobody disputed that!

The MD was dead before MP3 players really started to take hold. The mp3 player in their second wave when they started to get serious put the final nail in the coffin but it failed to beat the CD walkman by then anyway!

True. By the the mid 90's the MD was already dead. The only people seriously using them were radio stations because they made it easy to edit content for interviews etc. Oh and bootleggers, they were good to bring to gigs because the recording quality was great.

projectmayhem · 11-08-2006 02:14PM

Irish GrumPy wrote:

Can anyone honestly see hd-dvd/bd discs taking off anytime soon? I reckon if either of them will take off, it will be two, or three years down the road.

honestly, the only reason i can see either take off is if something pushes them to take off. HD-DVD has been out in the states since may and has sold very few pieces of hardware. this is for two reasons, 1) people waiting to see, and 2) people not giving a crap.

we're arguing this out, but in reality, the general public don't give a rats ass. and if you go out and talk to casual gamers, the general consensus is that they'll get a ps3, even if it is €600. like it or not, brand loyalty comes before anything in business.

i don't really see why hd-dvd would take off... blu-ray will drop in price eventually, holds more data and has more big companies behind it (most if not all the major movie studios, most of the major PC manufactorers, most importantly Dell, and so on)... but even more important, if ps3 takes off, there's no reason for ps3 owners to go buy a hd-dvd player.

and at launch sony will sell every single ps3 they make, so assuming by the end of the year they make/sell about 3 million consoles (not sure of their target), that's more likely to be far more blu-ray players out in homes then hd-dvd players... so why spend another €1000 on another movie player when you have one with all the same movies available?

basically, it's the exact same reason DVD won the fight a few years ago.

also, isn't MD used a lot in the radio industry?

wayne040576 · 11-08-2006 10:00PM

projectmayhem wrote:

also, isn't MD used a lot in the radio industry?

Yeah I mentioned that in my last post. I know it was used a lot a few years ago because of the editing power. They made it very easy to get interviews and even track lists together. I know a few of my mates used to be involved in that area and used MD a lot. If you have a decent quality mic, the portable devices were really good for interviewing. I remember hearing an interview that one of my mates had done at a gig and I was blown away by the sound quality at the time. But I honestly don't know if things have changed and how much they are used today.

LookingFor · 11-08-2006 11:27PM

iregk wrote:

We could go back and forth all night long with this. Dell have also signed up with HD-DVD!

Film studios, Fox, Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks and many others have signed with both Blue-Ray and HD-DVD and are currently releasing titles on both. My guess is you will see a lot of multi platform players hit the market that will take both HD and DR...

I'm not sure where you've got your info, because nearly all of it is wrong. Dell & Fox are supporting Bluray exclusively at the moment. Paramount is supporting both. Universal is supporting HD-DVD exclusively at the moment.

The current movie studio support among major studios is:

Blu-ray
Fox
Sony Pictures
MGM
Disney
Warner Bros
Paramount/Dreamworks

HD-DVD
Warner Bros
Paramount/Dreamworks
Universal

Universal is the only major studio not supporting Bluray (and I'm guessing that will change by next year). Combined, Bluray claims access to 90% of Hollywood content, while HD-DVD can only claim access to half of the Hollywood catalogue.

The general trend among computer and consumer electronics companies is overwhelmingly to support Blu-ray. HD-DVD has very little support from CE companies.

monument · 22-08-2006 06:40PM

Sony: PS3 not in production (says Reg)
http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9773285

wayne040576 · 22-08-2006 08:21PM

monument wrote:

Sony: PS3 not in production (says Reg)
http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9773285

I think they've also reduced the number of units for the US on launch down to 700,000.

projectmayhem · 22-08-2006 08:59PM

monument wrote:

Sony: PS3 not in production (says Reg)
http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9773285

kaz said this a week or two ago. slightly worrying tbh, but then again, i'm not sure how difficult it is to put all the bits of a console together before selling them to the scum (us). anyone had any idea how long before sale the 360 went into production?

wayne040576 wrote:

I think they've also reduced the number of units for the US on launch down to 700,000.

hadn't heard that, but it doesn't matter, there'll be massive shortages no matter how many consoles they have

madmarco245 · 26-08-2006 01:19AM

Well, you could start production a few months earlier and make about 5-10 million PS3's, but if people don't buy them, there'll be a HUGE loss, so by releasing about 1 million for each country, if they're gone within the WEEK then they'll be expanding production, but 700,000 for a continent!?:eek: That's insane, 35,000 for each state of America???

I suppose there'll be around the same for Ireland considering we're an expanding economy, and PS3 will help with it. I estimate about 5-10 units going to average games shop, probably a bit more will be going to the "Game" branch in Henry Street, Dublin. So basically, they'll be seeing whether the small numbers of units in America will mean a bigger demand and a small number in Ireland would be any different, it's Sony playing it safe, well, that's my theory, like it or not!

In other words, if Sony are to get to their target of 5 million units, they better get off their arse, and skip nap time...;)

Explosive_Cornflake · 27-08-2006 01:46PM

projectmayhem wrote:

on. games companies have maxed out the capacity of dual-layered dvd's (look at how rockstar had to tone down the audio in SA to fit that game on a single disc),

GTASA was on DVD5

projectmayhem · 27-08-2006 03:22PM

Explosive_Cornflake wrote:

GTASA was on DVD5

just checked that up and you're right. my bad.

but just replace GTA:SA with GT4 or MGS2: Substance and you have the same argument.

while we're on it, Resistence: Fall of Man has used up 22Gig of the blu-ray disc... which straight off the bat starts to justify the format as a medium for putting out games. of course we've to wait and see how good the transfer rate works (72mbps, since ps3 is x2)

PS3 production begins..

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