"The grass is always greener..."

The Sweeper · 09-08-2006 01:43PM

Why did you leave Ireland?

I left Ireland in the summer of 2002 for a lot of different reasons. I'd had a long term relationship which left me feeling drained and in debt up to my eyeballs. I associated most of the places where I was spending time with that relationship, and it was a very negative experience. I had left a job which I thought would be my 'career' (before discovering we weren't mutually suited) and I was living in my parent's house.

I felt like I'd done most of what there was to do in Dublin - different jobs, socialised and lived in different areas (north, south, east and west of the city and suburbs), and had no desire to try living in a different county (South or West coast). It got so that I couldn't walk from the office to the shopping centre to buy lunch without meeting someone I knew. Some people would love that - I hated it. I wanted to move somewhere bigger, for a change of pace, scenery and a go at anonymity.

Where did you move to, and for how long?

I moved to the greater London area, initially for a year. Four years later, I'm still here. I've moved further out, into Surrey. A lot of what I was looking for is here, but you will always get some things that don't work out the way you thought they would.

How was your experience?

It's been difficult, but valuable. I've taken all the opportunities I could to really build a life for myself. This included trying a number of other jobs before realising I'm better off working for myself. I'm now self-employed, and it's the best thing I ever did.

I've made some great friends, developed a relationship into a marriage and am very happy. However there are a lot of things about South East England that don't suit me - yet again, I've missed the boat on purchasing affordable property. Plus it's expensive to live here - the cost of a basket of goods is far cheaper than in Ireland, but when you're in Ireland you don't have to pay council tax, your petrol and train fares are much cheaper and you don't have problems with water shortages and water rates!

Did you return to Ireland, and why?

I haven't yet. Strangely, now that I'm self employed, moving back to live in Ireland doesn't hold the same horror as it used to when I considered the concept of renting and commuting to an office job. However, I've got other places, further afield, that I want to go. My parents are still in Ireland, and they're elderly, but I've learned that you really can't let that hold you back.

Did you get homesick?

Never! Which just goes to show - there was pretty much nothing I missed from Ireland. I was too busy enjoying the 2002 sunshine, beer garden and late night curry entertainment of the summer. By the time that wore off, I'd landed my first 'proper' job and was concentrating on that. Eight months after I'd moved to England, I moved in with my now husband, so that formed something of a distraction. Basically it was a full year since the pace of life slowed sufficiently that I even had a chance to stop and consider how it was to no longer be living in Ireland.

Did you enjoy the new culture?

Yes. I like the mix of cultures in greater London and the South East. I love being able to get decent ethnic food! I like how having a religious argument can be about more than one religion. (I have a fond memory of a lunchtime discussion that involved a lapsed catholic, a jew, a muslim, a hindu and an agnostic abandoning plans to go back to work and staying in the restaurant until 7pm, fighting about holy books.)

Was it more laid-back?

Not particularly. London is a busy place, but at the same time the ethnic groups also bring their own sense of urgency with them. Some people are very chilled out and laid back, then you get the types who'll start a fight in the train ticket office queue of a morning because the 'system is disorganised'.

Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland?

There's no 'better or worse', I think, there's just 'different'. I needed the clean start that a relocation gave me, and even though it wasn't plain sailing from the outset and I made more poor choices and mistakes, I'm now in a far better place than I was five years ago.

How and ever, now that I have myself sorted out emotionally, spiritually, career-wise and financially, I find myself planning yet another move! I want to do some travelling and eventually settle in Melbourne, Australia. I'm considering some supplementary training to help me in my business. Unfortunately, however, it's the price of housing stock that's really pushing me further afield. If I were to move back to Ireland or stay in England, all that would happen is I'd end up stretched to the last penny trying to afford a property.

dave2pvd · 09-08-2006 01:59PM

i. why did you leave Ireland?

Caught the 'want to go' bug after spending my DIT Summers in France, then the US. I was v tempted to bolt after my Tech Dipl. Parents convinced me otherwise. Hanging around in Dublin penniless for another 3 years was a grind, but leaving for the States, degree in hand, has made for a far better life than what might have been.

ii. where do you move to, and for how long?

Atlanta, GA. Been here for 10yrs.

iii. how was your experience?

Love it. Has pros and cons, of course. More pros.

iv. did you return to Ireland, and why?

No. Just for 'vacation'. Will be staying here. Wife. Kid. Dog. 3 cars. Even if I wanted to come home, I would be screwed financially after missing the housing market inflation elevator. I/we travel home at least once a year. And feel just a little bit more foreign with each visit. (I change and Ireland changes).

v. Did you get homesick?

Only during the 1st year. Sadly, the homesickness goes away. What doesn't ever go away is missing family. Which I suppose is a component of homesickness, just deeper, more fundamental.

vi. Do you hate that your kids don't get to 'go to nana's' on the weekend (something I'd like my kids to be able to do)?

I do wish we were closer to my parents. They visit at least once a year, but every other weekend would be a whole lot better!

vii. Did you enjoy the new culture?

Oh yeah. Very different to home. Very diverse. Have to say I miss not being able to travel in Europe. Those cheap Ryanair flights to places you used only be able to get to inter-railing... Thing is, 12 years ago, I would have traded my sister to visit a place like the BVI, or the Rockies as the Winter starts to close the passes.

viii. Was it more laid-back?

In a way. There is a laid back attitude. On the other hand, people work long and hard here. The dream of retiring at 50 still remains elusive for most. Won't stop me trying though.

ix. Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland?

I have to second a previous poster: I probably would have done well for myself in Ireland but the thoughts of living in an estate in the suburbs of Dublin doesn't do much for me. I had a big opportunity in Dublin that I chose to forsake. I often wonder 'what if?'. Need to stop wondering at this point!

The Sweeper · 09-08-2006 02:14PM

dave2pvd wrote:

I change and Ireland changes.

Quoted for truth.

exCrumlinBoyo · 09-08-2006 07:02PM

I'd like to know:

i. why did you leave Ireland?

I met my now wife who is American in Dublin 5 years ago. I am Dublin born and bread and did think of leaving for greener grass many times, but never had the opportunity. When my wife mentioned to me about coming to live in Florida with her, I did not think twice. We were about to start a family and with the ever rising cost of living back home, Florida sounded like a dream come true. I jumped at the chance and I have no regrets.

ii. where do you move to, and for how long?

We moved to Pensacola Florida, an area in N.W Florida in which my wife moved here back in 1993. Now, we had all the immigration s hit to go through which was not pleasant, but we did it ourselves and I am now hold full permanent residency, AKA Green Card. I am living here for 4 years now.

iii. how was your experience?

My experience in the 4 years I have lived here has been generally good. Its has it ups and downs and a lot of hard work in order to get to where I am today. We landed her with a baby on the way so it was down to me to get my **** together. We moved into my wife’s parent’s house, I did the immigration thing which took a total of 2 years to get my green card, 8 months to be able to work ect. I got a job and then got promoted with better money. Moved out of my in laws house into an apartment, and a year later bought our first house. No matter where you are in the world if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything. Different places has it good points and bad points.

iv. did you return to Ireland, and why?

Honestly it took me about 18 months to get over the homesickness. It was worst when doing the immigration stuff. Ask anyone who has been through it and they will tell you the INS or UCIS as they like to be called these days, do not make it easy for you. Thoughts of going back home flooded my mind constantly during that time, but as soon as I got it all finalized that helped a lot especially moving out into our own place and the birth of my son, which cemented our family. My son funnily enough was born on St. Patrick’s day here in Florida. It was a very special day for an Irish man in Florida. I went home for my first visit in November 2004 for two weeks which was fantastic. It was very strange and emotional if the truth be known. It was like I obliviously knew the place since I spent 23 years of my life in Dublin, but at the same time it was strangely unfamiliar. I remember leaving home to go home to Florida that for me was painful. Looking back it was really leaving the family which hurt the most, and they would be the only reason that I would go back home to live. I have thought about it many many times, and as the title of this post says, the grass is always greener….. I believe if I did move back home with my Family, it would be a mistake and I picture what life would be like living back in Ireland with my two kids and my wife.

Did you get homesick? Do you hate that your kids don't get to 'go to nana's' on the weekend (something I'd like my kids to be able to do)? Did you enjoy the new culture? Was it more laid-back? Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland?

As I said above the homesickness is not around any more. Missing family and friends never goes away, but they are only a phone call away at the end of the day. Now, my kids missing out on my family and my family missing out in my kids, well I feel guilty about that a lot. Even though my mum or any of my family back home in Dublin has never said it, they would give anything, especially my mum and sister to have me and the wife and kid’s back home living in Dublin. If I am honest, I would like that also, but we have a good life here in Florida. I can provide for my family better here in Florida than I ever could back home in Dublin or Ireland. We own our home and we are ready to sell and move into a bigger home in the next year. We could never own a home back in Ireland even with my wife working also with the prices. My wife stays at home with our kids and goes to college at night time, so we have one income, which is very modest, but very manageable. We recently bought a brand new car, and do not pay through the roof on insurance premiums every month and pay extortionate motor tax for the privilege of driving the car. I read and keep in touch with the happenings in Dublin/Ireland on a daily basis and it frightens me at how bad its gotten back home. Its one thing with the economy, but people have become worst. I read nothing but little pricks going around stabbing and shooting each other. Then there is the racism, which I will never understand, small mindness is what it is. Immigration is a fact of life now especially with Europe opening its doors. It will finally settle down and people will get used to the new influx of different nationalities, but is a evolution process which will take years. The immigrants will be good and bad, but the bad will paint everyone in the same stroke. Even though guns are legal to own over here in the states and I don’t own one, I feel safer over here than I would back in Dublin. I don’t have to bolt my car to the ground, sure many times I have left it unlocked in the garden and its left safe and sound.

To summarize, no matter where you decide to go or where faith will end up having you at, it’s up to you to make the most of your given situation. If I could move my family from Dublin, mum, dad ect to Florida with me life would be perfect, but that’s not going to happen. I think I got out while the going was good and now a days its gone to the ****s. Don’t get me wrong, I love Ireland and I love the fact that I am a Dubliner through and through and that my kids are Irish while also being American, they get the best of both worlds, but Ireland and Dublin is going down the drain.

scojones · 09-08-2006 07:10PM

I'm going to New Zealand in Jan/Feb for an undetermined amount of time and this thread has gotten me excited about it again. I have travelled somewhat, but not for a huge amount of time, but I have seen alot of europe and been out of the country around 8 times and I agree with Gordon above, travelling does broaden the mind. We are only on this planet for a short while lads, try not to get too worked up or stuck with where you are - feeling like this is it for you. There's a big wonderful world out there that's waiting for you to experience it.

Gone West · 09-08-2006 08:37PM

i. why did you leave Ireland?
for teh craic, new exoperiences, whatever.
ii. where do you move to, and for how long?
West coast USA, 9 months
iii. how was your experience?
It was a nice place, good weather, but the USA is shallow and is basically a big bag of bóllock
iv. did you return to Ireland, and why?
Because Ireland is definetly the best country to live in IMO.
And I've been around.

09-08-2006 08:41PM

As soon as I finish my MSc, I intend to move abroad for a phd, and possibly to settle down abroad. I really do want to get out of here, even if funding is going to make my life difficult. Whenever I think where will I end up living, my vision usually includes abroad. Not USA though. Scary.
I lived in Spain for a year a few years ago. It was pretty cool. Was a year out, mostly.

Gandhi · 09-08-2006 11:50PM

i. why did you leave Ireland?

I just wanted to. I moved to London first, because I remembered hearing that one guy in the year ahead of me had moved there, and I immediately thought "that is so cool". I moved to the US later, as I had been there on a J-1 and loved it there, plus I managed to get a green card.

ii. where do you move to, and for how long?

I moved to London in June of '95, almost immediately after graduating from college. A few days after I'd moved, my Dad told me that a package had come from the US Embassy - I'd got a green card in the lottery.

About a year of bureaucracy later, I headed to Philadelphia. Some friends of mine from college were doing a masters there, so I could stay with them for a while. Originally I planned to move to California as soon as I got settled, but I loved Philly so I stayed. I've been here about ten years now.

iii. how was your experience?

London was great, but quite expensive. I was only there a year, and all the lads in my house were also fresh out of college, so it was like an extended student summer. I loved the size and hustle and bustle of it.

I love the States. So much stuff looked like it did in films. I remember in the early days walking down streets thinking they looked like Sesame Street, or the street on The Cosby Show. Everything seemed so big. I loved the 50-story skyscrapers, monstrous bridges, 12-lane highways, freight trains several hundred carriages long rolling past.

The change in seasons is a huge benefit. I love that I can drive an hour North in the winter and go skiing, and drive an hour East in the summer and lie on the beach in 35 degree weather. Not that I do that a huge amount, but it's cool to have the option.

The first two years here was like another extended J1 summer as most of the people I hung around with were other Irish who were either in college here, or had just graduated. After that, some started moving home as their student visas ran out, plus the economy back home was really hotting up at the time. There were about thirty of us hanging out together there at the start, and seven or eight of us are still here - all the rest are gone back.

Since then it has been more grown up. The job situation seems different to Europe (going by what my friends are going through). I change jobs a lot more frequently. Partly because startups go down the tubes, or get bought out by bigger companies that will sack half the people immmediately, and partly because there are just so many companies to get new jobs from. It seems to be more dynamic in both a good and bad way, which suits me.

Most of us who stayed are married now (including me), and some with kids (not me). People do seem to get married a bit younger here. The last of my friends out here (Irish, locals, and otherwise) have just about been married off, while my friends back home are just getting started on the wedding train.

The one problem here is that you don't get enough time off, but that seems to be changing slowly. I get about three weeks holidays, which seems to be about average. It used to be two weeks was about the average. Working for a government office or college you'd get more.
However, you can make the most of a weekend when you are so close to beaches, ski-ing, etc. Plus you have banks open until 8:00pm, malls open until 10:00, supermarkets open almost 24-hours, so you can do most of your personal business on the way home from work.

iv. did you return to Ireland, and why?
I did not. I go back about once a year, usually for a wedding, these days.
Most of the crop of lads that came out the same time as me went back, but I just loved it here. A few years back, one of the lads who had moved back home told me that within a week of me coming over he knew I'd never move home.

Did you get homesick?
At first, I would get homesick when I did something like buying a car, or moving apartments, as it made the move feel more permanent. I remember, just a month or two after I had moved, missing my cousin's wedding - she was the first cousin of our generation to get married, and I got really homesick wishing I was home for that.

I rarely get homesick any more, though. With email, chat, cheap phone calls etc. it is quite easy to stay in touch with people.

Also, practically all of my friends and family have moved to Dublin or abroad. People are what I get homesick for, so I'd basically be missing a place that doesn't exist any more if I was pining for Cork as I remember it.

Do you hate that your kids don't get to 'go to nana's' on the weekend (something I'd like my kids to be able to do)?
Don't have kids (yet), but I am already quite sure that will upset me.

Did you enjoy the new culture?
Absolutely love it. I live right in Philadelphia, while most of the other Irish lads I know are living the stereotypical suburban "white picket fence" towns outside of Philly. A few of them have moved way out, practically to the Amish country.

Any country you go to can offer a variety of cultures. Just like living in Dublin City Centre would be very different from rural Mayo.

On paper, crime is higher here. Philly (a city about the size of Dublin) has about a murder a day, but the crime is very much confined to bad neighbourhoods. And the pensioners don't take crap. The vast majority of killings seem to be one drug dealer killing another. I honestly hear a lot more stories of friends back home being burgled and having cars stolen than I hear from my friends here.*

It is more suburbanized. Even though I live in the city, I always end up working in suburban office parks, thanks to the ultra-localized politics of townships and boroughs competing with tax-breaks for businesses. I'd like to be able to walk, cycle or take the train to work, but that is often just not possible here.

Some people seem to like it that way. I have plenty of friends who would rather drive their SUV from their McMansion development to a chain sports bar / restaurant in a strip mall, than stroll out the front door and down the street for a few pints in the local bar, which is what I prefer.

Also, the commercialization is beyond belief. I was drinking a pint the other day and there was an ad for a local real-estate agent on the pint glass. The supermarkets have TVs playing ads while you are standing in line at the checkout.

Was it more laid-back?
Not more laid back than Cork (where I'm from) but I would guess Philly would be on a par with Dublin in terms of hustle and bustle. I could always move out to 'burbs or out the country if I wanted it quieter, or move to NYC or LA if I wanted it more hectic.

Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland?
I think it would not have suited me as well. When I moved out here first I was making a lot more money than I would have been at home, but now the economy at home has either caught up or is getting close.

Living is cheaper here, though. Houses, obviously, are a lot cheaper. Luxury goods are cheaper, though food from a supermarket I would say is a bit more expensive. Clothes are obviously much cheaper - a search on "Woodbury Commons" in Rec->Travel will tell you that. My gas, electric, phone bills etc. seem to be a lot lower than my friends' back home are.

* Of course, now I'm jinxing myself and my stereo will be gone when I get home.

pink27 · 29-06-2009 11:04PM

Yes I did go away, had a great time, didnt do the usual irish thing and drink my way through each country, I appreciated what I saw. I loved it away and also when the year was up I was happy to come back too, to meet my friends and family.
Thing Id say to you is, only you can decide. If you have this in your system, you have to get it out, meaning you have to go experience it. Or else youll regret it. All providing you will have enough finances or course. That is an important thing in order to experience it in full. The hardest part is coming back to ireland with a bang. Takes so long to get back on your feet again, job, transport, accommodation. It might be better if you save a bit first, assuming your a poor college student right now:), before you think about heading off. Hope that helps.

hehe, open-ended question

hey folks,

I'm only 18 at the moment, but I plan on moving abroad when I finish my degree. I find Ireland really depressing for some reason, maybe bad experiences, maybe it's just the weather (it's always gloomy... why can't it just be sunny!), dunno, but I don't enjoy living here.

My parents are kinda dismissing this as a 'grass is always greener' thing, and maybe it is, maybe living abroad would be a let down!

There's a good number of people on boards who have actually done what I want to do, left Ireland for whatever reason, and lived there, maybe returning, and I want to know your experiences of this!

I'd like to know:

i. why did you leave Ireland?
ii. where do you move to, and for how long?
iii. how was your experience?
iv. did you return to Ireland, and why?

Did you get homesick? Do you hate that your kids don't get to 'go to nana's' on the weekend (something I'd like my kids to be able to do)? Did you enjoy the new culture? Was it more laid-back? Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland?

Let me know your thoughts! Thanks folks![/quote]

jumpguy · 29-06-2009 11:06PM

Travel broadens the mind, if you can travel, why not?

My name is URL · 29-06-2009 11:09PM

Mazaltov!

TheZohanS · 29-06-2009 11:15PM

pink27 wrote: »

Let me know your thoughts!

Zombies scare me.

Latchy · 29-06-2009 11:19PM

Originally Posted by pink27
Let me know your thoughts!

I will , just not tonight

yerayeah · 29-06-2009 11:27PM

Feck sake, I thought we were going to find out what Dave! did in the end...

What was the point in resurrecting this ffs...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 29-06-2009 11:28PM

A lot of my friends and family ask me "why don't you just go abroad and get a job there?"

I cannot do that, I probably never will be able to it. Ireland is my home and it always will be, I love it here. I love the weather... I cannot stick the heat. I wear a t-shirt in the winter for crying out loud. People cannot understand that one

I would get home sick, although I live away from my parents, and have done so for 5 or 6 years now. I know our government are not the best, I know this place is a rip off, I know there is a lot wrong with Ireland, but still... I love it.

When I was a kid, I wanted to move to australia, but that changed for a few differant reasons. My brother is over there now making a nice few dollars. He has about 900 dollars after his rent and bills are paid for every week. Decent in my opinion.

I always said "well there's no dangerous animals or the likes here".

I do enjoy getting away and seeing differant countries, experiencing differant cultures, foods and people. I could not stay away for more than a few weeks. I guess I am, and always will be a home bird.

At the moment I am thinking about getting a job in Belgium, where my girlfriend is from. Her brother is a supervisor in a windscreen factory. I have to ask if there is anything going. But this would only be for a few months to get some money together for loan payments. It would be better than social welfare after bills and rent. It's just a thought at the moment though.

mink_man · 29-06-2009 11:30PM

if theres grass in the field, play ball!

bonerjams03 · 29-06-2009 11:33PM

Have you had any experience of other countries?

Otherwise you find life depressing, not Ireland, if Ireland is all you've experienced. Theres nothing to say life won't be a ****ter somewhere else.

judas101 · 29-06-2009 11:40PM

i. why did you leave Ireland? Finished college, no jobs, wanted to get out. fancied an adventure. throw a woman into that equation too.

ii. where do you move to, and for how long? I now live in Heidelberg Germany. Ive been here for nearly a year.

iii. how was your experience? Hard at first but great overall. I had no german initially but as my language skills improved my life here did too.

iv. did you return to Ireland, and why? only on holidays. i have no desire (keine lust) to go back for the moment.

Did you get homesick? Of course, im very close to my family. i get home every 6 weeks or so. not too bad.

Do you hate that your kids don't get to 'go to nana's' on the weekend (something I'd like my kids to be able to do)? Dont have any yet but would be sure to get the littel uns home should they pop out. at least once or twice a month.

Did you enjoy the new culture? yes. germans are weird make no mistake. but overall lifestyle is better, for me at least.

Was it more laid-back? Personally yes, but its impossible to know how things will work out. i got an oppertunity to come here and i took it. worked out well for me but thats not to say life here is not without its challenges.

Do you think that your life would have been better or worse if you had stayed in Ireland? Much ,much better. Purely from a personal standpoint. Just had to get out of there. I love to get back for a few days but am happy with my life in germany.

Let me know your thoughts!

Things have worked out well for me but it didnt come easy. I was fortunate and had a good oppertunity presented to me. the lifestyle is very differernt but, for me at least was easy enough to adapt to and embrace.

for anyone reading this who is thinking of moving to germany, austria or swiss feel free to PM any questions i might be able to help with.

AntiRip · 29-06-2009 11:54PM

feck sake lads you're answering a question from 3 years ago! :rolleyes:

mink_man · 29-06-2009 11:56PM

knew well he couldnt be a mod at 18!

midlandsmissus · 30-06-2009 12:07AM

Hi! Well I met a canadian in Ireland and came over to Canada for the year to see how Id like it, and to decide whether I'd stay here for good or if he'd come back to Ireland for good.

Negatives:

Different sense of humour. I never realised till I got here how much humour revolves around popular culture. e.g. I went to a stand up show here and I hadn't a CLUE who he was talking about while everyone else was laughing,and similiarly I feel a bit sad that I throw out a Fr.Ted quote wihout thinking and everyone's like what the f*ck are you on about. That's when you feel the lonliest!

They are also REALLY into Ice hockey here (surprise surprise!), alot of socialising and pub life revolves around it. I can't take to the sport at all so feel a bit left out with this sometimes. Tho I'm much happier now that I FINALLY found a pub that shows gaa matches!

I'm 8 hours behind Ireland here so it's very hard to call people at a time when you're both not working and both awake!!

I REALLY miss my friends and family.I didn't think I'd be homesick but I have this constant ache to go home.

Positives:

People are really lovely.

You get unbelievably good service in bars and restaurants.They bend backwards to help your every need. Well worth the tipping culture over here.

In the west where I am they get really hot summers and mild winters so there is a great outdoor culture: barbecues,going to the beach, sports. People are extremely healthy, fit,and outdoorsy here.

There's a real community spirit where I am and everybody is very welcoming. It'd be a great place to bring up a family.

I won't be staying after a yr tho miss ould Ireland too much! Of course I would never have left though,only that I met him.I'm a homebird. If you have a real feel for travel and new places, you should go.

Fajitas! · 30-06-2009 12:21AM

Ha. What a mad bump. Three years since my post.

Well, I'm finished college. Currently been offered potential jobs in Ireland that will amount to nothing, unpaid internships in London or complete and utter freedom but no work in Canadia.

Looks like I'll be taking the interns in London until next year some time, and Canada is on the map then. For the record, a BFA is a great degree, just don't expect money in Ireland after it. For the next 5 years

jumpguy · 30-06-2009 12:28AM

Fajitas! wrote: »

Ha. What a mad bump. Three years since my post.

Well, I'm finished college. Currently been offered potential jobs in Ireland that will amount to nothing, unpaid internships in London or complete and utter freedom but no work in Canadia.

Looks like I'll be taking the interns in London until next year some time, and Canada is on the map then. For the record, a BFA is a great degree, just don't expect money in Ireland after it. For the next 5 years

But your...Fajitas...

Fajitas! · 30-06-2009 12:33AM

Well yes, apart from being an incredibly tasty mexican food, I have a life too.

jumpguy · 30-06-2009 12:37AM

Fajitas! wrote: »

Well yes, apart from being an incredibly tasty mexican food, I have a life too.

Ohh sorry I misunderstood I thought you meant you were the OP. I thought Dave made another account or something. I getcha now.

devereaux17 · 30-06-2009 01:58AM

I lived in Munich for a year with my parents, was pretty good but I wouldn't say I prefer it over Dublin(I've never lived anywhere else in Ireland so I don't see myself so much as 'Irish')

Look I don't view moving somewhere else as depressing or such a big deal, particulary when flights are cheap. I love Dublin and I reckon it will eventually become a truly great diverse city(I like that sort of thing, thats just me)

I think its without question that my college course will mean I'll probably spend a few years in France(maby Lyon) but Dublin is where I want to be. I like the city, I actually don't have any love for the 'people' of Dublin(i often hear people say how they miss the 'irish humour' maby its because im from souless suburbia that i don't see this 'humour' but its the actual landscape and city that I like, even the weather I don't mind, its really not that bad imo.

And its natural in some people to view somewhere as 'greener'

devereaux17 · 30-06-2009 02:04AM

Oh and problems with Ireland is that its too isolated and the population is far too small to have a very enegetic buzzing country, as a previous poster living in Paris said, he can leave at 8pm and 12 hours later be in Rome.

In Dover(Southern England) ferrys are coming and going like buses.

Thank God for Ryanair, best thing that ever happened to Ireland when it came to connecting us with mainland Europe.

I hate the Conservative mindset of the country as well and drink culture and paddywackery.

Sharpshooter · 30-06-2009 02:18AM

Thread is three years old and dead.
No need for a resurrection.

"The grass is always greener..."

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