Graffiti

jill_valentine · 21-09-2005 01:28AM

We don't have a Banksy or anything close working around Dublin, so it's all just the street-side equivilant of scratching a name in a desk. Lame and ugly. If it's an actual, creative expression of something, and it's on one of our cities thousands of fine derelict buildings or tumble-down walls, then it's only a shame there isn't more of it. Good stuff makes a dreary place look alive. The only decent stuff I can remember seeing was near Smithfield... can't remember where or what...

Giblet · 21-09-2005 01:31AM

Tempers, please. If you can't discuss without resorting to petty arguments, then you won't discuss anything here at all.

Resurrection · 21-09-2005 04:47AM

I would love to strangle GRIFT. I'm sick of seeing his name everywhere but fairplay I guess because get this. His tag is the whole way up the Brussells to Amsterdam railway line. lol
That takes alot of effort and somewhat worthless dedication but my mate knows one of the group who are involved in it and apparently they've got big rewards hanging over them if caught.

FX Meister · 23-09-2005 08:09PM

There's no rewards for Grift or anyone else, it's not the wild west you know. If he gets caught there isn't much they can do to him. They can prosecute for that offence only.

impr0v · 23-09-2005 08:32PM

Some low-effort, high reward graffiti:

http://usera.imagecave.com/impr0v/junk/chocolate.jpg

Aisling(",) · 24-09-2005 09:32PM

impr0v wrote:

http://usera.imagecave.com/impr0v/junk/chocolate.jpg

I'm starving now

Custom22 · 25-09-2005 02:41AM

Interesting topic.

Firstly I think tagging is just not clever. The same generic fonts, sparkles and stylisations recurr over and over again and it just looks corny to me. What really gets me about it is that essentially I am just reading someone's name. The name itself cannot be deemed as an artform. What I'm saying is, writing your name (however "masterfully") on a surface is not artistic. You may be a highly skilled painter but it does not make you an artist. What have you created? I think its often more of a "cred" thing. Tagging is just so fuppin' lame.

Graffitti on the other hand can be amazing to look at and can also be as symbolic and artistically important as conventional artforms. It is still vandalism though and anyone who says otherwise is not really thinking straight. That may sound arrogant but I really do believe this. I really like some of the wittier street graffitti (not seen at all in Dublin). Like the "Actual size" one earlier. Politically driven graffitti also has a certain credibility as what is being written is not someone's "cool urban tag" but a message that is relevant and matters in our lives.

What ever way you look at Graffitti/Tagging, its still, obviously, a crime (and should not ideally go ahead without prior permission) however, I feel that when the individual goes beyond simply tagging their name and actually endeavours to create something unique and inventive the piece can really then be taken seriously as a work of art.

I think sometimes the most amazing pieces of graffitti are the ones that are really small and generaly do no damage. Like the "peeling back" one on the fence posted earlier. I'd enjoy looking at these things and they really are not that intrusive. Its still vandalism though!

enjoy · 07-03-2006 09:48PM

i love graffiti. i enjoy watching style and dominance changing around the city aswell as noticing writers in far away places. i have a great example of a very nice tag. ill dig it out soon. I think grift is a legend. love the way he doesnt stop. people can complain all they like about it but that wont change anything.

shyne · 02-08-2006 11:24AM

grift is a ledgend all city king but there are alot more good writers that get up alot too

Naked Lepper · 02-08-2006 11:37AM

Grafitti is class... all types of it too...

I wouldnt waste my time getting into a debate about it on this forum though

Dyr · 02-08-2006 11:45AM

Working class expressionism?
*lols sadly*

Degsy · 02-08-2006 12:19PM

zinc wrote:

Well Pesk, I'd say Drop and Grift obviously are quite up and have been for some time.

Seen a lot of Rise lately on my way out to UCD for my new semester.

On my way to a house party I got to see a good bit of RFA stuff along the way, some nice stuff by Milk especially and those dudes in general.

Out in the West Str/Stir although aint great just yet are improving especially Ment and they are getting bolder.

There was a Meso tag on my skip in the garden today

By the way this is Sepona.

Well sepona,go to hell and take your poxy vandailism with you.Can i have your address so i can paint on the front of your house?

Package · 02-08-2006 12:22PM

any grafitti artists out there fancy spraying grafitti art on my car?

shyne · 02-08-2006 12:26PM

meso was probably the first tag i saw haven't seen much new stuff by him but uek lads faek yoke, cist and mak done some stuff a while back along the belgad to cookstown luas line so many good writers out there man btw anyone know about any other graffiti shops than all-city?

Degsy · 02-08-2006 12:45PM

shyne wrote:

meso was probably the first tag i saw haven't seen much new stuff by him but uek lads faek yoke, cist and mak done some stuff a while back along the belgad to cookstown luas line so many good writers out there man btw anyone know about any other graffiti shops than all-city?

So is your graffiti better than your grammar?Can i have your address so i can come and add some art to the front of yor house?

joe_chicken · 02-08-2006 12:58PM

People who can't sing don't go around with megaphones and try and push their "art" on others... so why do people who can't paint feel obliged to do similar

Degsy · 02-08-2006 01:20PM

joe_chicken wrote:

People who can't sing don't go around with megaphones and try and push their "art" on others... so why do people who can't paint feel obliged to do similar

Because they're ego-tripping vandals who feel the world should be subjected to the sight of thier name on walls in the manner of a ten year old with a crayon.Fools every last one of them.

padi89 · 02-08-2006 01:30PM

Naked Lepper wrote:

Grafitti is class... all types of it too...

I wouldnt waste my time getting into a debate about it on this forum though

The funny thing is though you had no problem coming back wasting your time editing your post where you called graffiti...........wait for it>>>>>>>>>

"working class expressionism"......OMG:rolleyes:

FX Meister · 02-08-2006 02:21PM

Yeah, I agree. Totally

Terry · 02-08-2006 03:09PM

shyne wrote:

meso was probably the first tag i saw haven't seen much new stuff by him but uek lads faek yoke, cist and mak done some stuff a while back along the belgad to cookstown luas line so many good writers out there man btw anyone know about any other graffiti shops than all-city?

what in gods name was that all about?

Package · 02-08-2006 04:27PM

ok, my 96 opel astra is there to be srayed. and offers,, good publicity for anyone who wants it.

scop · 02-08-2006 05:34PM

@Shyne: There are no other graffiti shops bar All City, although there used to be a market down somewhere to buy Montana. All gone now though. Sure what else could you possible need? Theres also teh internet.

02-08-2006 09:43PM

Graffiti can be a metaphor that defines culture. For example, the film, American Graffiti had little to do with what most consider graffiti, but made a statement about American culture of the time.

Terry · 02-08-2006 09:53PM

yeah, that's all well and good, but it doesn't stop some little prick with a little prick from spraying 10 foot high letters on a wall beside your house.

Rnger · 02-08-2006 10:06PM

I read the first few posts and I'm not arsed reading anymore...

I see grift alot around dublin. Theres an especially good one between the charlemont and harcourt luas stops. He's the first artist I've seen more than once and I love spotting grift written on random bus stops and benches around dublin.

I have a little book full of pictures of excellent graffiti all over europe, you should see some good graffiti before you judge.. besides anyone who dosent like graffiti is an old fart

/stir

Terry · 02-08-2006 10:11PM

christ, don't mention that tool.
there was a whole (very long) thread about him and his ilk and it wasn't nice.
just like his grafitti.
yeah, i'm getting my coat.

Doomspell · 03-08-2006 02:14AM

Package wrote:

any grafitti artists out there fancy spraying grafitti art on my car?

I saw a grafittied 'smart' car. It looked so cool!

shyne · 03-08-2006 12:31PM

scop wrote:

@Shyne: There are no other graffiti shops bar All City, although there used to be a market down somewhere to buy Montana. All gone now though. Sure what else could you possible need? Theres also teh internet.

I was out by dundrum and i saw a shop called nash's paint shop does anyone know if that sells motana or duleux or the like

Degsy · 03-08-2006 01:40PM

shyne wrote:

I was out by dundrum and i saw a shop called nash's paint shop does anyone know if that sells motana or duleux or the like

Why didint you go in and ask or were you afraid?I reckon you're just a troll.

Terry · 03-08-2006 02:03PM

i second that.

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