Pete Doherty on Ross

Mr. Presentable · 07-07-2006 10:06PM #1

Clearly smacked out of his gourd. Why do the media in the UK persist in coddling this loser?

solskjaer20 · 07-07-2006 10:07PM

He seems a real w****er.

Terry · 07-07-2006 10:07PM

talentless version of shane mcgowan.

humanji · 07-07-2006 10:12PM

nipplenuts wrote:

Clearly smacked out of his gourd. Why do the media in the UK persist in coddling this loser?

So that, like now, people will talk about the Jonathon Ross show! It's sad but it sells.

Terry · 07-07-2006 10:14PM

his teeth are fooked. one of the side effects of crack use.

Huggles · 07-07-2006 10:15PM

not a fan of him at all but he does seem more coherent than normal. I'd say his brain is fairly fcuked now tbh.

Ruu_Old · 07-07-2006 10:17PM

I guess Shane McGowan wasn't available then?

GBX · 07-07-2006 10:21PM

He actually looks a lot more sober than normal and the song he played went down well.

Huggles · 07-07-2006 10:23PM

GBX wrote:

He actually looks a lot more sober than normal and the song he played went down well.

yeah I agree!

Ballerina · 07-07-2006 10:25PM

i have to completely disagree with you all,im here with a load of mates and we all thought he was cool.
(ok everytime he reached in his pocket i was expecting to see a syringe(sp?)but i got over that)
he clearly has realised his mistakes and admitted that he needs to stay clean,i used to hate him because i never actually listened to him speak but he seems deadly!hes cute!!(ok we are all girls here.....
anyway i cant believe that you all thought he was a w*nker i thoguht he was brilliant and i now have loads of respect for him.

Ballerina · 07-07-2006 10:26PM

....mmm...ok didnt see all the posts before i posted...:rolleyes:

GBX · 07-07-2006 10:29PM

He has problems and is trying to address them. were all human. he is just heavely published in the british media and because of that he gets the flack he gets.

Dave! · 07-07-2006 10:37PM

Ballerina wrote:

i have to completely disagree with you all,im here with a load of mates and we all thought he was cool.
(ok everytime he reached in his pocket i was expecting to see a syringe(sp?)but i got over that)
he clearly has realised his mistakes and admitted that he needs to stay clean,i used to hate him because i never actually listened to him speak but he seems deadly!hes cute!!(ok we are all girls here.....
anyway i cant believe that you all thought he was a w*nker i thoguht he was brilliant and i now have loads of respect for him.

Troll?

Tha Gopher · 07-07-2006 10:38PM

I think Bo Selecta should do a send up

Seriously though, hes a twat. I first heard of the guy about 2 years ago, when his antics started first making the news.

I actually hadnt heard one single second of any of his music until about 2 months ago. His gig tickets cost something like £18 apparently

Theres feckin pub trad rock in this country who can earn more than him playing the local.

radioman · 07-07-2006 10:42PM

jomanji wrote:

So that, like now, people will talk about the Jonathon Ross show! It's sad but it sells.

Funnily enough, as one of the top rated shows on the telly I don't think the Jonathan Ross show needs to sell itself to anyone

Pete Doherty does, he needs exposure to get fans to buy his stuff to pay for his smack

elvis2002 · 07-07-2006 10:52PM

Ballerina wrote:

i thoguht he was brilliant and i now have loads of respect for him.

pfft, shows alot about yourself tbh if you think like that. He's scum of the earth.

projectmayhem · 07-07-2006 11:15PM

he came accross a lot better then i thought he would. out of his face, no doubt, but i was expecting something else altogether (note that i don't like that type of music and haven't really seen/heard much of him outside of the "scandals"). i cringed when he messed up the guitar bit at the start of the song so i had to switch over (me being a guitarist)

jrey1981 · 08-07-2006 01:20AM

I didnt think he came across too badly, wasnt sure what to expect.

mad m · 08-07-2006 01:24AM

Well he had the sense not to start talking about Kate Moss.Thought the song was catchy.He is trying to get off drugs so he says and he was swigging a bottle of becks,I'd say he had more than one.

Terry · 08-07-2006 02:43AM

GBX wrote:

He has problems and is trying to address them. were all human. he is just heavely published in the british media and because of that he gets the flack he gets.

and nobody understands him and he is really a genius and none of you will see that until he dies and then you will all jump on the bandwagon and i was here first.

look, we've seen it all before.
jim morrison, janis joplin, the guy from the who, the gut from the stones, kurt cobain and several others. as you get older, you will realise that these people are only on this earth to entertain you. they serve no other purpose and their deaths , while tragic, are just the same as some local musician dying. it doesn't matter.

DaveMcG wrote:

Troll?

nah. just a misguided teenager with some angst.

xzanti · 08-07-2006 05:37AM

I thought the song was nice.. He does have a nice voice... But definately away with the fairies :rolleyes: Was the first time I ever saw him speaking though and there is something a bit child like about him... Smacked out of his head for sure...Kate what were you thinking?

Huggles · 08-07-2006 06:38AM

xzanti wrote:

Kate what were you thinking?

I don't think she was! There is no vomit smiley??? :eek:

Big Tone · 08-07-2006 07:34AM

He was better than I expected, he seemed a bit otherworldy with the doe eyes, the blue eyeshadow and that Bowiesque/Ziggy Stardust type lightning bolt painted across his moon shaped face but as Woss pointed out "at least you tuwned up for the show".

He was drinking Becks in the "Gween Woom" (as Woss says) and sang a very catchy new song of his called "Beg Steal and Borrow" which was actually quite a hard song for anyone to sing with all the key changes, and he played the guitar well too in fairness. Obviously he's a ghoul when it come to drugs but then again what would you expect from a guy who comes from an upper class backround and his father a major banker! A rebellious young man but not against todays society, more trying to be the anthesis/nemesis to his old mans pinstripe suit and bowler hat generation.

thebaz · 08-07-2006 10:27AM

don't understand why so many here hate Pete Doherty -- true Rock n Roll is abount bending the rules and being different -- and getting loaded --- from Keith Richard to Iggy Pop -- ShaneMcGowan to Sid Vicious -- if you don't like it tune in to James Blunt or Chris deBurgh -- who will in the main live by decent standards . Rock n Roll rocks thats the point ...

Terry · 08-07-2006 10:37AM

thebaz wrote:

don't understand why so many here hate Pete Doherty -- true Rock n Roll is abount bending the rules and being different -- and getting loaded --- from Keith Richard to Iggy Pop -- ShaneMcGowan to Sid Vicious -- if you don't like it tune in to James Blunt or Chris deBurgh -- who will in the main live by decent standards . Rock n Roll rocks thats the point ...

i thought it was about the music. more fool me.

thebaz · 08-07-2006 10:52AM

julep wrote:

i thought it was about the music. more fool me.

its more than music -- its attitude style etc ... i don't advocate or take class A's myself , but here and in society it is accepted as normal and cool to take coke (or for that matter get hammered drunk on alcohol), but if you take heroin you are labelled "junkie scum " -- IMO they are both bad and only hurt the user.

padi89 · 08-07-2006 10:54AM

thebaz wrote:

don't understand why so many here hate Pete Doherty -- true Rock n Roll is abount bending the rules and being different

If he is trying to be different,why not be different with the music?.His lifestyle has be done many times before and at this point is just a "cliche", but possibly a whole new world for your average teen NME reader.

Terry · 08-07-2006 11:03AM

padi89 wrote:

If he is trying to be different,why not be different with the music?.His lifestyle has be done many times before and at this point is just a "cliche", but possibly a whole new world for your average teen NME reader.

indeed.
why would you want to see someone you supposedly admire crash and burn?
would it not be better if he was to clean up his act and keep making the music that you like, rather than dying at a young age?
or are you just waiting to cash in on that rare autographed cd on ebay?

Dave! · 08-07-2006 11:23AM

julep wrote:

look, we've seen it all before.
jim morrison, janis joplin, the guy from the who, the gut from the stones, kurt cobain and several others. as you get older, you will realise that these people are only on this earth to entertain you. they serve no other purpose and their deaths , while tragic, are just the same as some local musician dying. it doesn't matter.

Those dudes actually had talent though!

thebaz wrote:

don't understand why so many here hate Pete Doherty -- true Rock n Roll is abount bending the rules and being different -- and getting loaded --- from Keith Richard to Iggy Pop -- ShaneMcGowan to Sid Vicious -- if you don't like it tune in to James Blunt or Chris deBurgh -- who will in the main live by decent standards . Rock n Roll rocks thats the point ...

Getting wasted all the time is an ASPECT of the "rock n roll" lifestyle -- talent is generally another prerequisite. Pete Doherty has no talent. I don't know how he ended up on a record label, somebody musta been carryin him.

thebaz · 08-07-2006 11:52AM

DaveMcG wrote:

Getting wasted all the time is an ASPECT of the "rock n roll" lifestyle -- talent is generally another prerequisite. Pete Doherty has no talent. I don't know how he ended up on a record label, somebody musta been carryin him.

I disagree, i think Doherty has talent, in fact i would say he has possibly more talent than most of todays supposed Rock stars , though i do admit, as he did himself, that drugs have eroded that talent, "what a waste" . I don't like Chris deBurgh , but he must have some musical talent to get to where he has , i say this with gritted teeth.

sioda · 08-07-2006 01:41PM

The Guy is an ape the fact that the english media keep advertising him disgusts me what sort of a role model is this dope. I mean if a normal person was caught with drugs as many times as he has they would be in the nick so why isn't he

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