The lack of Irish flags in Ireland

JustCoz · 28-06-2006 06:18PM #1

I was in New York last week and noticed that there are US flags everywhere. I know this is common in America but people have them in their gardens and everything. When I came home I noticed the lack of Irish flags. Walking around Dublin city, there's ones outside Leinster House and the Dáil but in general they are few and far between.

I think it wouls be nice to see a few more around the place. What do people think?

LadyJ · 28-06-2006 06:19PM

I don't really see much point in it tbh.

Tar.Aldarion · 28-06-2006 06:20PM

I think that I don't want to see them everywhere/anywhere...
Why do you want them around the place?

solskjaer20 · 28-06-2006 06:20PM

No shortage here in Derry anyway.

Winters · 28-06-2006 06:21PM

I dont see the point either.

If everyone had them then they loose their value (imo) and also people just get pissed off. I know I think its awfully sad when I see tv and every second house in America has the big stars and stripes hanging outside it.

JustCoz · 28-06-2006 06:21PM

I think it's nice to show a bit of patriotism, not in an "in your face" way, but if things had been different 80 years ago, we could be seeing Union Jacks on O' Connell street.

solskjaer20 · 28-06-2006 06:23PM

And lets not forget that the Union Jack is still flown from many official buildings in parts of the country.

LadyJ · 28-06-2006 06:24PM

JustCoz wrote:

I think it's nice to show a bit of patriotism, not in an "in your face" way, but if things had been different 80 years ago, we could be seeing Union Jacks on O' Connell street.

Or we could be seeing no flags at all,like now!

We all know we're Irish but there's no need to drape flags all over our streets and houses.

Wishbone Ash · 28-06-2006 06:24PM

It would be nice but only if people obeyed flag protocol - how often have you seen the tricolour flying after sunset or with the wrong colours :eek: - there is no gold or yellow on our flag.

The flaging flying in the USA rose sharply following 9/11.

Dave! · 28-06-2006 06:25PM

Probably cos it rains for about 10 months of the year, so they'd all be ruined.

Tar.Aldarion · 28-06-2006 06:27PM

Time to start dressing in green and such.

28-06-2006 06:27PM

In America they're ridiculous about their patriotism. Sure I'm proud to be Irish, but I really couldn't give a flying **** if someone wanted to burn the tricolour. Only this week, the House of Representatives passed a bill 286-130 that would amend the constitution so that flag-burning could be declared a crime. It then went to the Senate, which voted 66-34 for it, only a single vote short of the 2/3 majority needed. That's completely insane, and I'd far rather be countryless than live in a society like that.

Besides, wait until there's some big sporting event which the Irish are in, the number of flags will increase fairly sharpish

Dave! · 28-06-2006 06:31PM

28064212 wrote:

In America they're ridiculous about their patriotism. Sure I'm proud to be Irish, but I really couldn't give a flying **** if someone wanted to burn the tricolour. Only this week, the House of Representatives passed a bill 286-130 that would amend the constitution so that flag-burning could be declared a crime. It then went to the Senate, which voted 66-34 for it, only a single vote short of the 2/3 majority needed. That's completely insane, and I'd far rather be countryless than live in a society like that.

Besides, wait until there's some big sporting event which the Irish are in, the number of flags will increase fairly sharpish

Yeah, if we made it into the world cup (*mumbles obscenities*), then there'd be tricolours everywhere

Jello · 28-06-2006 06:32PM

No I'd hate if we put flags everywhere and started saying ''I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Republic Of Ireland''.....The way the Americans fly their flags everywhere reminds me a bit of Nazi Germany.

hoody · 28-06-2006 06:32PM

well i think in ireland, the flag has been for so long a symbol of aggressive republicanism that there's a little bit of a stigma around it. which is unfortunate, because the Americans take real pride in their flag as a symbol of patriotism, and we can't do the same. i don't think they go out of their way to teach about the importance of the flag in school either - as in what the green, white and orange stand for.

Ruu_Old · 28-06-2006 06:33PM

I wouldnt like to see the number of flags like I see in American, its bloody ridiculous. Theres a neighbour of mine with 10 flags in the garden, not small ones either, also a large plastic statue of liberty and a pole with another big American flag on it. Indeed the sale of flags have risen since 9/11 but I dont see much point in it.
Theres also stupid laws here, that you cant have two flags on the same pole, like an American and an Irish one. The American flag has to be higher on the pole above other ones, bolleex tbh.

LadyJ · 28-06-2006 06:34PM

hoody wrote:

well i think in ireland, the flag has been for so long a symbol of aggressive republicanism that there's a little bit of a stigma around it. which is unfortunate,i don't think they go out of their way to teach about the importance of the flag in school either - as in what the green, white and orange stand for.

Isn't it green,orange(nationalists and unionists) and white(peace between the two)?

That's why I always thought it was weird that extreme republicans are so into it!

bounty · 28-06-2006 06:36PM

isn't there enough patriotic idiots?

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Wishbone Ash · 28-06-2006 06:38PM

LadyJ wrote:

Isn't it green,orange(nationalists and unionists) and white(peace between the two)?

Except when we're in the World cup - then it's green, white and yellow or gold. :mad:

solskjaer20 · 28-06-2006 06:42PM

Isn't it green,orange(nationalists and unionists) and white(peace between the two)?

That's why I always thought it was weird that extreme republicans are so into it!

Believe it or not, many republicans actually support the true meaning of the tri-colour.

BlitzKrieg · 28-06-2006 06:43PM

How many people have a tricolour?

I agree with many people here in that i dont have the desire to stick the tricolour out a window in every home.

But I would hope that most people have a tricolour so that when there are times appropiate for flag waving (national holiday, world cup, six nations etc etc) then one can be produced.

Having the flag up all the time in every home sort of makes it less special in my opinion.

LadyJ · 28-06-2006 06:45PM

solskjaer20 wrote:

Believe it or not, many republicans actually support the true meaning of the tri-colour.

Even the ones in the IRA?

Ruu_Old · 28-06-2006 06:45PM

I have one hanging on the wall of my living room, I live in the US. Don't want people to think Im American or something like that.:eek:

Demetrius · 28-06-2006 06:47PM

Many people might by wary of parading Irish flags about the place here in the South in case they might be thought of as Shinners. It is only when Ireland is being supported in sport that you see it. In fact, Irish soccor fans have taken alot of stigma away from it.

JustCoz · 28-06-2006 06:48PM

I don't mean that we should be sticking them out of every window, I think that the Americans are ridiculous with regards to flags but I just noticed how few there are. I wouldn't associate our tricolour with violence at all, I think we've come a long way. I just think it's a nice symbol, and tourists can see that we our proud of our nationality. I'm not talking ridiculous patriotism!

solskjaer20 · 28-06-2006 06:49PM

Even the ones in the IRA?

Well I don't speak for the IRA, but I'd say yes, many of them.

And no we don't need any links to sectarian attacks, becasue we all know there have been.

But most of the people I know support the ideals the tri-colour stands for.

Not everyone in te north is a bigot you know. You can want self-determination for your country and not hate Protestants at the same time you know.

projectmayhem · 28-06-2006 06:49PM

i have one up in my bedroom, and i'm not a shinner by any means.

LadyJ · 28-06-2006 06:49PM

Tbh,I don't have a problem with our flag,and I like what it represents but I don't understand the people who fly it and also spend their time shouting and screaming about "those orange bastards!"

JustCoz · 28-06-2006 06:50PM

Demetrius wrote:

It is only when Ireland is being supported in sport that you see it. In fact, Irish soccor fans have taken alot of stigma away from it.

I agree

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