Charles Haughey Has Died + Poll

BoozyBabe · 13-06-2006 11:40AM

super_furry wrote:

I won't cry any tears for him.

2nd that

Pompey Magnus · 13-06-2006 11:40AM

He was better than the shower we have at the minute.

RIP.

xzanti · 13-06-2006 11:41AM

super_furry wrote:

Only if we get a day off work to mourn*.

*Mourning may involve spending the day in the pub.

Yes... I too feel I should be allowed to mourn* I'd mourn* all day, and maybe move on to mourn* at a late night venue after that

Orion · 13-06-2006 11:45AM

Dragan wrote:

As i said in another thread, i'm sure his family loved him and will miss him, but he wronged a nation and in my opinion never paid the price.

Now out tax money is gonna be spent so Bertie can stand there and ignore the fact that he was a scumbag???

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

Pigman II · 13-06-2006 11:46AM

Was gonna come on here and post "why? is he dead?" (considering this questions been prematurly asked about 100 times here and considering he's been dying for about 15 years now). I really should keep up on current affairs!

Anyway, I'm in the "don't care" category atm. If theres people out there that want to give the crook a fancy farewell then it's no skin off my ass.

Dyr · 13-06-2006 11:47AM

If they have a state funeral will we be able to see if they staked him through the heart, just in case like?

Tha Gopher · 13-06-2006 11:47AM

Surely an East End style gangland funeral with horse drawn carriage and attendees in sovereigns and cheesy sunglasses would be more appropriate.

However, I like the idea of a day off

As Ed Byrne (i think) on the panel said

"I mean, Charlie Haughey? He looked like a particularly sh1t Bond villain"

Dragan · 13-06-2006 11:48AM

Macros42 wrote:

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

Good blood point.

I shall change my statement to " Now our tax money is gonna be spent so Bertie can stand there and hope to f*ck that no one points out that the whole damn lot of them are bent as hell!"

Degsy · 13-06-2006 11:51AM

Tha Gopher wrote:

Surely an East End style gangland funeral with horse drawn carriage and attendees in sovereigns and cheesy sunglasses would be more appropriate.

However, I like the idea of a day off As Ed Byrne (i think) on the panel said

"I mean, Charlie Haughey? He looked like a particularly sh1t Bond villain"

Well Ed Byrne looks like a big-nosed woman but i digress.Haughey should get a Mussolini -style funeral,with him and his cronies hanging by ther ankles from a flagpole as an example to others.

Tha Gopher · 13-06-2006 11:53AM

Aye Dragan, the way that most of the current FF crowd will still refuse to outwardly condemn the guy is mad. I remember Mary O`Rourke on the Panel (again) sidestepping questions basically asking whether he was a disgrace or not. Flatly refused to say a bad word against the guy.

From the BBC

"One heard that money intended for a liver transplant for the late Brian Lenihan, a former government minister, ended up in Charles Haughey's bank account. It was spent on £700 shirts from Charvet of Paris. "

Christ what a sh1t. Its worse than Ted going to Vegas with the sick kids Lourdes money

Naked Lepper · 13-06-2006 11:53AM

If someone robbed your grannys house do they desver a state funeral?

ChityWest · 13-06-2006 11:55AM

Haughey bashing aside - I would say he should have and does deserve a state funeral. Its a matter of respect from the state to a former taoiseach - it doesnt mean we all approve of everything he ever did.

Dragan · 13-06-2006 11:55AM

Tha Gopher wrote:

Flatly refused to say a bad word against the guy.

Thats most likely because he would sue them for slander etc!!!

You gotta fear the law suits in our modern world.

However, this is the net, so .......

"FU*K THAT THIEF"

Tha Gopher · 13-06-2006 11:58AM

padi89 wrote:

.I guess all the mistakes are insignificant now

To quote Alan Partridge reacting to a similiar statement

"Hmm, yeah. Thats what Nazi war criminals always say":)

Someone clarify, do we get a day off for state funerals? Or extra pay for working during one?

Like this from the BBC

"Charles Haughey and his entourage enjoyed a lavish lifestyle. He owned a yacht, his own island, race horses and a mansion.

Many believed he was the ideal man to deal with the Irish Republic's chronic debt problem......"

Only in Ireland......

woodyg · 13-06-2006 12:03PM

There is no way that he deserves a State Funeral!
The man was a gangster to the core how people can respect him is beyond me.
The list of his criminal activities makes the bases for a trilogy of Hollywood block busters.
The sayin power corrupts was never better associated than to that man.

Dragan · 13-06-2006 12:06PM

woodyg wrote:

The sayin power corrupts was never better associated than to that man.

Or Hitler, Stalin, Napolean etc, etc, etc

constitutionus · 13-06-2006 12:06PM

Macros42 wrote:

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

yeah, people tend to forget bertie signed all those cheques for haughey but doesnt seem to remember what they were for, not exactly the actions of a good treasurer to sign a compleate book of blank cheques. remember what haughey said about him "the most cunning and devious of em all!":D

besty · 13-06-2006 12:09PM

Naked Lepper wrote:

If someone robbed your grannys house do they desver a state funeral?

Depends if he's a former Taoiseach or not!

is_that_so · 13-06-2006 12:10PM

As an ex taoiseach he is entitled to one , so the vote is immaterial. He had his very serious flaws and even if he didn't have respect for the Office at times, the Office needs to be respected.

Degsy · 13-06-2006 12:13PM

Th e
arroagnce of the fecker,while teh whole country was groaning with unemplyment and strikes and poverty in the 70's,this scumbag was amassing a huge fortune from corrupt dealings AND he never attoned for it.Give him a state funeral my hole,let his estate pay for every funeral in this country for the next twenty years.

Hitchhiker's Guide to... · 13-06-2006 12:14PM

of course he should get state funeral. As has been previously stated - this is a standard privelage extended to ex-taoiseach.

On a side note - no matter his wrongs, he also did a phenomenal amount for the country. I sure some of the people putting him down, are, thanks to him, posting their comments from the IFSC in Dublin rather than an office in London.

InFront · 13-06-2006 12:16PM

Of course a state funeral isnt in question, and any holder of the office deserves it. Personally I couldnt care if they wheeled him down o connell street in a wheelbarrow, I dont know much about him cos he retired before I was even born or came here, but it seems to me that if the clock was turned back hed do it all again, hed just be more discreet.

So of course hell get the gun salute, but he probably doesnt actually deserve it...

Lump · 13-06-2006 12:17PM

See Ya.... Wouldn't Want To Be Ya

JimmySmith · 13-06-2006 12:17PM

I'll vote for a state funeral, but only if we get a day off work

um7y1h83ge06nx · 13-06-2006 12:21PM

F**k him.

Pity he was allowed to live so long. Someone should have been patriotic and done their country proud by shooting the f**ker between the eyes years ago.

darkman2 · 13-06-2006 12:26PM

Most of you would want to use a bit of cop on. Your making uneducated, ignorant judgements about a man you probrably know absolutely f*ck all about. Show some bloody consideration for his family and on the day of his death at least try to be posisitive. Some of the comments here are sickening and I think a mod should close the thread if it continues. Its distasteful and disgusting:mad:

Omnipresence · 13-06-2006 12:26PM

He should have been held accountable before he died...

While most of us grew up in near poverty in early eighties he lived the good life...

Just wish he had answered for what he did in court....

-A

woodyg · 13-06-2006 12:27PM

He deserved to be but in front of a 12 gun salute with low aim!

constitutionus · 13-06-2006 12:27PM

Roundtower2 wrote:

of course he should get state funeral. As has been previously stated - this is a standard privelage extended to ex-taoiseach.

On a side note - no matter his wrongs, he also did a phenomenal amount for the country. I sure some of the people putting him down, are, thanks to him, posting their comments from the IFSC in Dublin rather than an office in London.

ah yes the IFSC, the place currently under investigation for massive moneylaundring operations by australia. sounds like a CJ project to me

a crook is a crook and all the pseudo sympathetic lionising of him wont change that

um7y1h83ge06nx · 13-06-2006 12:31PM

darkman2 wrote:

Most of you would want to use a bit of cop on. Your making uneducated, ignorant judgements about a man you probrably know absolutely f*ck all about. Show some bloody consideration for his family and on the day of his death at least try to be posisitive. Some of the comments here are sickening and I think a mod should close the thread if it continues. Its distasteful and disgusting:mad:

Fair enough, but I still think the ordinary people of Ireland should have rebelled and ended his life 20 years ago.

There is too much apathy in this country now imo. Back in our grand-parents time he wouldn't have been tolerated.

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