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Whats wrong with supporting England in the footy?

  • 10-06-2006 09:49PM
    #1
    InFront
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    I lived in England briefly before I cam do Dublin with my parents and was just wondering - why is there such stigma attatched to supporting England in the World Cup here?

    We were in a student bar today, my mate and I to see how England got on against Paraguay and there were people there watching the game alright... but just hoping to see England get trashed. I wouldnt even like to repeat some of the comments I heard.

    I cant understand it. And none of that 800 years ****e! British tyranny wasnt 800 years at all and everyone involved in it has died long ago. I have no doubt the RA songs you tend to hear in late night taxis are just empty words of course, but sober people during the day hurtling abuse at a neighbouring football team... why?! Most countries support their neighbouring team, even past invaders.


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  • #2
    Huggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    InFront wrote:
    I lived in England briefly before I cam do Dublin with my parents and was just wondering - why is there such stigma attatched to supporting England in the World Cup here?

    We were in a student bar today, my mate and I to see how England got on against Paraguay and there were people there watching the game alright... but just hoping to see England get trashed. I wouldnt even like to repeat some of the comments I heard.

    I cant understand it. And none of that 800 years ****e! British tyranny wasnt 800 years at all and everyone involved in it has died long ago. I have no doubt the RA songs you tend to hear in late night taxis are just empty words of course, but sober people during the day hurtling abuse at a neighbouring football team... why?! Most countries support their neighbouring team, even past invaders.

    Was just talking about this with a friend of mine earlier. I don't understand it either. I'm an arsenal fan myself and there are hundreds of thousands of footy supporters in dublin that support utd, arsenal, liverpool etc.....can't understand why they become hypocrits when the WC is here!

    I am supporting England :)


  • #3
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,065 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    first off, it was 800 years of invasions followed by oppression.

    now, to answer your question, i don't see anything wrong with it. i mean, half the people here watch english football every week. i don't see why the same people don't support england, or why they would boo them.


  • #4
    Ruu_Old
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    The same people chanting and giving out about England are probably supporters of the Premiership, the ironing is delicious :) Barstool 'RA tbh.


  • #5
    iFight
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    There is no problem ,just most people dont, id like to see them do well in the Cup though


  • #6
    macroman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭macroman


    it's just the ignorant irish nation. i bet if you ask a dubliner why they don't like England they won't have an answer better than "I just bleeeedin' do riiie"


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  • #7
    the Shades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭the Shades


    It might have something to do with the English still going on endlessly about winning the thing 40 years ago and not letting it drop. Or you might as well ask why do the English have such a negative attitude to the Germans when it comes to soccer?


  • #8
    Plug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    InFront wrote:
    I lived in England briefly before I cam do Dublin with my parents and was just wondering - why is there such stigma attatched to supporting England in the World Cup here?

    We were in a student bar today, my mate and I to see how England got on against Paraguay and there were people there watching the game alright... but just hoping to see England get trashed. I wouldnt even like to repeat some of the comments I heard.

    I cant understand it. And none of that 800 years ****e! British tyranny wasnt 800 years at all and everyone involved in it has died long ago. I have no doubt the RA songs you tend to hear in late night taxis are just empty words of course, but sober people during the day hurtling abuse at a neighbouring football team... why?! Most countries support their neighbouring team, even past invaders.
    You didn't read your histroy books? I,d like to see Poland doing better:)
    Oh....maybe this aswel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntc0kgshzYk&search=ireland%20vs%20england There always at it!


  • #9
    Oriel
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    We'd be hearing about it for the next ****ing 40 years that why!


  • #10
    InFront
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    sinecurea wrote:
    We'd be hearing about it for the next ****ing 40 years that why!
    best suggestion yet lol. Fair enough I suppose!


  • #11
    Plug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I love ths bit:rolleyes: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054944441


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  • #12
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    its rivalry, same as any other neighbours, same as being from meath i like to see dublin lose in the gaa, perfectly natural


  • #13
    Oriel
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Just watched the news there - the main story was the 1-0 result in their opening match!

    /update [after 5 minutes of football] - "In other news, 3 people committed suicide in..."

    quality news...


  • #14
    Atomic Pineapple
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    Plug wrote:
    You didn't read your histroy books? I,d like to see Poland doing better:)
    Oh....maybe this aswel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntc0kgshzYk&search=ireland%20vs%20england There always at it!


    gwan the gardai! should have brought in an armoured car and shot the whole lot a them.

    wonder what odds you'd get on england fans being involved in a riot at this years world cup?


  • #15
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Apparently, it;s something to do with the media and going on about 1966 years. These same ignorant people, though, 1) fail to realise that the Irish media do exactly the same thing, e.g. Ryle Nugent harping on about Delaney (1956) and Tracey (1984 runner up, I think) and someone else in the distant past and 2) continue to watch football matches on British channels even when they are also televised by RTE.

    I think we get a certain sence of securtiy and self-worth from hate and bitterness.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #16
    el rabitos
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    we hate them cos there ghey and drink tea with little hats on


  • #17
    MrJoeSoap
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    el rabitos wrote:
    we hate them cos there ghey and drink tea with little hats on

    Hope that was sarcasm.


  • #18
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    It wasn't even English.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #19
    el rabitos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭el rabitos


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    Hope that was sarcasm.

    no, i REALLY spell gay "ghey" and think all english people wear little funny hats and drink tea.

    ...thats sarcasm.


  • #20
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    Apparently, it;s something to do with the media and going on about 1966 years. These same ignorant people, though, 1) fail to realise that the Irish media do exactly the same thing, e.g. Ryle Nugent harping on about Delaney (1956) and Tracey (1984 runner up, I think) and someone else in the distant past and 2) continue to watch football matches on British channels even when they are also televised by RTE.

    I think we get a certain sence of securtiy and self-worth from hate and bitterness.


    Not to the extent that the english go on about winning the world cup, in the run up to this years world cup all there was on english channels was programmes about the 1966 world cup.

    The picture and sound quality are usually always better from english channels than rte, whats wrong with watching a higher quality picture when you dont have to pay anything extra for it?

    What I get from seeing england lose is joy not security or self worth


  • #21
    Dave!
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    draffodx wrote:
    its rivalry, same as any other neighbours, same as being from meath i like to see dublin lose in the gaa, perfectly natural
    exactimundo


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  • #22
    county
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    el rabitos wrote:
    we hate them cos there ghey and drink tea with little hats on
    surprised your not in the pub drunk,paddy;)


  • #23
    MrJoeSoap
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    el rabitos wrote:
    no, i REALLY spell gay "ghey" and think all english people wear little funny hats and drink tea.

    ...thats sarcasm.

    :rolleyes:

    Whatever... lowest form of wit and all that.


  • #24
    el rabitos
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    county wrote:
    surprised your not in the pub drunk,paddy;)

    i really wanted to, but all my green clothes were in the wash, and i couldnt find that packet of lucky charms i bought earliar...dont go anywhere without me lucky charms


  • #25
    Dyr
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    I dont watch the premiership or refer to some english football team as "we" ( lol) , so i love to watch the english being stuffed. As do lots of Scots and Welsh people i know, mainly because the english media etc only need a few victories before they revert to pathe jingoism and start crowing on like queen victoria never died. More than likely lots of french and germans love to see the english being stuffed too :D

    oh yeah and also 800 hundred years etc, the ould enemy and all that, forgive your foe's but never forget who they are :p


  • #26
    Plug
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    draffodx wrote:
    gwan the gardai! should have brought in an armoured car and shot the whole lot a them.

    wonder what odds you'd get on england fans being involved in a riot at this years world cup?
    I'd like to shake your hand Mr;)


  • #27
    el rabitos
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    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    :rolleyes:

    Whatever... lowest form of wit and all that.

    whatever....*flicks hair*


  • #28
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    draffodx wrote:
    Not to the extent that the english go on about winning the world cup, in the run up to this years world cup all there was on english channels was programmes about the 1966 world cup.

    The picture and sound quality are usually always better from english channels than rte, whats wrong with watching a higher quality picture when you dont have to pay anything extra for it?

    What I get from seeing england lose is joy not security or self worth

    Not over months, but when it comes to jingoism, George Hamilton just does my ****ing head in. He's even worsethat Clive Tyldesly, and that is bad.

    Our sence of anti-Englishism is what I mean be security and self-worth: part of being Irish seems to be hate and that can never be good. Why do you get joy from England losing (and DON'T say the media - I'll never accept that as anything more than a convenient excuse)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #29
    InFront
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    Bambi wrote:
    I dont watch the premiership or refer to some english football team as "we" ( lol) , so i love to watch the english being stuffed... mainly because the english media etc only need a few victories before they revert to pathe jingoism and start crowing on

    That happens when we (Ireland) win ANYTHING on the international scene! And the World Cup is a lot more to gloat about in fairness, in my opinion, than the Tour De France etc. (Sean Tracey still a household name)

    Why do you get joy from England losing (and DON'T say the media - I'll never accept that as anything more than a convenient excuse)

    Ill second that


  • #30
    Atomic Pineapple
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    feck sake as i said before, its just rivarly, i also get joy out of dublin losing in the gaa, i also get joy out of big teams getting beaten by under dogs, seeing other people/teams lose is fun!


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  • #31
    the_syco
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    So, did the bland and tans lose, or what? I don't care who wins, as long as England loses. I don't even care if *shudder* France wins *shudder*, just once England loses.

    Oh, and why? Because I don't like what england stands for. Mainly nice people now but not back 50 years ago or so.

    =-=

    OT, but I also hope that Dublin lose in the GAA. Why? Because the Dubs are scum. Sure, they are mainly nice 50 years ago or so, but now... don't get me started:p


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