Eurovision farce

Lawdie · 21-05-2006 05:02PM

whassupp wrote:

You cant even hear the words. so how is it a good song???

They were a heavy metal band. Your not suppose to hear the words. God do kids these days know nothing!

Anyway they got my vote. It was original, different and laughed in the face of the tradditional crap dished up.

One interesting point was how the opinionated commentator (RTE) said that one country votes for another neighbour etc and it appeared so. When the Irish vote came out and UK got I think 8 points, silence. He made no comment, now thats hypocrisisy. Eaten bread.

the_dart · 21-05-2006 05:13PM

"One interesting point was how the opinionated commentator (RTE) said that one country votes for another neighbour etc and it appeared so. When the Irish vote came out and UK got I think 8 points, silence. He made no comment, now thats hypocrisisy. Eaten bread."

Ireland and the UK now give eachother high points every year. That's been happening for about 2 or 3 years now. It never happened in the past unless the song merrited such points. They let the Eastern European countries in back in about the year 2000. The Ireland -UK votes are now protest votes about political/cultural/geopgraphical voting. For example, I voted for the UK 10 times yesterday. I'm glad they got our 8 points, they gave us 8 points too. Unfortunately the Lithuanians in the UK and Ireland spent more money than we did, so Ireland and the UK both gave 12 points to Lithuania. That's a pitty. I'm hopping next year that Ireland and the UK will give eachother 12 points, and it'll be like that every year.

Sarky · 21-05-2006 05:17PM

As opposed to, say, voting for the song that was actually better?

aidan_walsh · 21-05-2006 05:18PM

Sarky wrote:

As opposed to, say, voting for the song that was actually better?

Pff, like anyone actually does that...

iFight · 21-05-2006 05:19PM

aidan_walsh wrote:

Pff, like anyone actually does that...

They should just get judges to represent each country or something...tho that would be fairly crap itself.....guess it just has to be put up with:D

Illkillya · 21-05-2006 05:22PM

the_dart wrote:

Unfortunately the Lithuanians in the UK and Ireland spent more money than we did, so Ireland and the UK both gave 12 points to Lithuania. That's a pitty. I'm hopping next year that Ireland and the UK will give eachother 12 points, and it'll be like that every year.

The Lithuanian entry also appealed to the A Nation Once Again / McElhinny Twins piss-take culture that surfaces in Ireland during these text-in events. I wanted the Lithuanian entry to win, and I wanted us to give UK 0 points.

Karl Hungus · 21-05-2006 05:37PM

Lawdie wrote:

They were a heavy metal band. Your not suppose to hear the words. God do kids these days know nothing!

What in the name of blue cheese are you talking about? Of course you're supposed to hear the words, that's the point of having lyrics in the first place.

Whether you personally can understand them to any degree, well that's a personal problem.

mad m · 21-05-2006 05:53PM

Wait and see,next year Johnny logan will be in some kind of lordi outfit.:)

Nightwish · 21-05-2006 05:56PM

Lordi have been one of my favourite bands sine Get Heavy was released and when they announced their intentions to enter the Eurovision, I knew they'd win.
Whoever said they couldnt hear the words is deaf, cos I knew them and sang along to it!

"Rock and roll angels bring thyn hard rock hallelujah...."

X-SL · 21-05-2006 06:09PM

I could here the words perfectly too. Great "fun" song imo. They deserved to win. I wonder if it will influence next years entries.

scojones · 21-05-2006 06:11PM

The song was pretty good.

Nightwish · 21-05-2006 06:12PM

I hope it does. I mean a bit of variety wouldnt go astray. So many countries are using the "pop-tart with scantily clad dancers" format that its quite boring and nothing stands out. Dragonforce next year!!!

The Bollox · 21-05-2006 06:12PM

X-SL wrote:

I could here the words perfectly too. Great "fun" song imo. They deserved to win. I wonder if it will influence next years entries.

of course it will. France will have a metal band and rant on about how they came up with the idea in the first place

slave1 · 21-05-2006 06:14PM

best song won, no contest, lordi of the rings

Yook · 21-05-2006 06:18PM

Just to let everyone know, their genre is actually known as "Horror Metal".

New_Departure06 · 21-05-2006 06:19PM

I think our 12 points to Lithuania were just tactical voting by Lithuanians living in Ireland. A similar phenomenon was seen in the suspiciously high votes for Turkey in Switzerland and Germany.

Nightwish · 21-05-2006 06:21PM

Tactical voting will always be an aspect of the eurovision, now the public can vote. It'll be a while before the eastern bloc countries stop voting for each other and realise they can do so without fear of invasion.

Sarky · 21-05-2006 06:23PM

Probably still a good idea to throw the odd 10 or 12 Russia's way for now...

Necronomicon · 21-05-2006 06:40PM

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV wrote:

nobody in ireland even voted for any country i'd say haha. they probably threw names into a hat ..

That's not true, I voted for Lordi. Twice

Bit off topic, but that crazy Dutch guy who started shouting his mobile phone number to the presenter was cool!

Newaglish · 21-05-2006 06:53PM

I don't know why people blame all our votes for Lithuania on a regional/political idea. I think if anything, it has more to do with the fact that Ray Darcy has been playing that song pretty much every day or at least talking about it for the last 2 weeks on his radio show in the mornings on Today FM.

Also, i'm glad Finland won, not because I liked the song - I didn't, and I did actually find some of the words hard to hear; a problem that befell many contestants whose backing music was too loud - I'm just happy that I won't have to hear people moaning about Eastern Bloc voting for a while

New_Departure06 · 21-05-2006 07:10PM

I thought Brian's performance was creditable and not bad at all. We have now qualified for the final next year without the humiliation of the semi-final being foisted on us. But I think next year we should maybe aim for something more spontaneous and raunchy.

the_dart · 21-05-2006 07:11PM

"I don't know why people blame all our votes for Lithuania on a regional/political idea. I think if anything, it has more to do with the fact that Ray Darcy has been playing that song pretty much every day or at least talking about it for the last 2 weeks on his radio show in the mornings on Today FM."

If you believe that, then you're stupid. Last year we gave 12 points to Latvia. Its all cultural voting. Most Irish Nationals have lost interest in Eurovision and I'd say a lot of it's down to the unfair voting. It would take an unbelievably extraordinary song to win for Ireland. I think even if U2 sang for Ireland, we wouldn't win, thanks to cultural voting.

New_Departure06 · 21-05-2006 07:12PM

At least the RTE voting-system didn't break down this year.

Patricide · 21-05-2006 07:13PM

Whoever says that lordis song was not a well put together song needs his head checked, IT WAS ULTRA CHEESY but a very very aproachable catchy rock song that sticks in your head.Its got greats hooks and i think its the first year in ages that the best song actually did win.

I mean come on out of all the songs therethe only other two that would get my vote are isreal and ireland, every other song was Absolute rubbish.

Also last time i ckecked it was called the EUROvision, how the hell are isreal in it, i dont get it.And VOTE DRAGONFORCE for eurovision 2007 steoob go me onto the idea theyd be perfect.

Pigman II · 21-05-2006 07:22PM

Patricide wrote:

Also last time i ckecked it was called the EUROvision, how the hell are isreal in it,

Because the general 'Arab Vision' is for Israel to not be there, and by not-be-there I mean "on the face of the earth" rather than just in their songcontest.

whassupp · 21-05-2006 07:32PM

They Shud Bring Back Jury Voting

Tar.Aldarion · 21-05-2006 08:20PM

Sarky wrote:

Probably still a good idea to throw the odd 10 or 12 Russia's way for now...

Our best line of defense unfortunately.

nesf wrote:

My Mom's were: "When I saw them, I knew you'd like them."

My mother's exact words too.
Dad wasn't there at the time so she threw in the wierd comments, she said they were like 'space chips', whatever that means. She loved them too.

What is it with all the parents loving them, didn't expect that.

How could anybody not understand the words, perfectly clear..and oh so hilarious.

singingstranger · 21-05-2006 10:07PM

New_Departure06 wrote:

At least the RTE voting-system didn't break down this year.

/me tried phoning in Mum's vote eleven times and got an engaged tone every time, and - just to check - attempted a phone vote for Latvia's a capella thing which didn't work either.

My belief is that the geography really doesn't matter if you stand out. Finland won it by about 55 points, with five realistic geographical neighbours (Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland (kinda) and Russia). So with the benefits of geographical proximity they would still only have gotten, at maximum, 60 neighbourly points. And second place was Russia who got twelves from most of the former USSR states. Proof that it's not entirely about geography, although it does help.

What last night did prove is that you have to make an effort to be genuinely memorable and to stand out. Which is a bit of an obvious statement - you can't win if people don't remember to vote for you - but it's still true. Having a thump-thump Eurodance with skimpy outfits doesn't always cut the mustard. I'd always been of the opinion that Rock & Roll Kids, if re-entered, would win most modern Eurovisions and last night only made me think it even more.

These days you only win if you're a novelty act (I know Lordi have a full career, but to the rest of Europe the song was a novelty) or you have a genuinely show-stopping ballad. Brian Kennedy tried the latter and did respectably because Europe gave him credit for trying to break the thump-thump mould. If his song had been a *real* heart-wrencher of a song - and had Finland not been so hugely memorable themselves - he might have had a real chance.

All this in mind (and throwing in the fact that Germany clearly couldn't give a toss about it if they send in a crappy country song) I'm going to try and write a three-minute gut-wrencher of a ballad, and enter for Germany where I'm living next year.

You heard it here first.

mang87 · 21-05-2006 11:10PM

I liked finlands song.

the_syco · 21-05-2006 11:15PM

whassupp wrote:

How could Ireland as a democratic nation give 12 points to Finland. I know their perfomance was quite entertaining and amusing but the song itself was ****e. The purpose of the song contest is to pick the best song (not performance). By the way, I think ireland did alright even though i hate that song.

You mean that the usual boring cr4p sh|te should have won? They won cos the type of music hasn't been played before.

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