Wheelocks attacked by Gards last night

mosuepad · 19-05-2006 01:29AM #1

did you hear about this

Terences brother was delievering leafets about a protest outside store st gardai station when a cop started to hassle him, as usual, the gardai grabbed the leaflets and tried to arrest him for nothing, and when his other brother comes out for the leaflets, loads of other the gardai crashed there way into their house and started attacking his family, his parents and his pregnant sister!

The whole neighbourhood saw them surround the house for half the night, the same gardai from store street, who can't put together what happened to their family member after he was arrested last year.

there not going to let the police get away with this.

Rb · 19-05-2006 01:30AM

Whos Terence?

Karoma · 19-05-2006 01:32AM

Scumbag that died whilst in custody...

Karl Hungus · 19-05-2006 01:35AM

Hmm, sounds like the Garda actually got off their asses for once. Fancy that?

Rollo Tamasi · 19-05-2006 01:35AM

what is this tripe about?

Rb · 19-05-2006 01:37AM

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

what is this tripe about?

Terence

Ruu_Old · 19-05-2006 01:37AM

Its about Terences brother, durrrhh

Rollo Tamasi · 19-05-2006 01:38AM

rb_ie wrote:

Terence

ohhh! Terence, i seeeeeeeee.
eh, what?

Rb · 19-05-2006 01:38AM

Ruu wrote:

Its about Terences brother, durrrhh

Or is it!? :P

Karoma · 19-05-2006 01:39AM

Terence Wheelock, a 20 year old young man from north inner city Dublin, died on the 16th September whilst in Garda custody. Terence was arrested with three others on suspicion of stealing a car and taken to Store St Garda station. Two hours later he was found unconscious in his cell.

jcoote · 19-05-2006 01:41AM

well put it this way if people were gonna protest outside your workplace about how badly a job u are doing and u had the power to stop it u would so thats it.

19-05-2006 01:59AM

I was told that terence was banging his head off the wall coz he was on drugs!Sounded like a proper tit!

How do you pronounce your username?;)

Esel · 19-05-2006 02:45AM

All you smartarses better hope that mosuepad never finds out your real identities. It's easy to be smart on the Internot!

Sarky · 19-05-2006 02:48AM

esel wrote:

It's easy to be smart on the Internot!

And yet...

19-05-2006 03:41AM

mosuepad wrote:

did you hear about this

Terences brother was delievering leafets about a protest outside store st gardai station when a cop started to hassle him, as usual, the gardai grabbed the leaflets and tried to arrest him for nothing, and when his other brother comes out for the leaflets, loads of other the gardai crashed there way into their house and started attacking his family, his parents and his pregnant sister!

The whole neighbourhood saw them surround the house for half the night, the same gardai from store street, who can't put together what happened to their family member after he was arrested last year.

there not going to let the police get away with this.

Hmmm did you ever get get past junior cert foundation english?Im going to guess not!Like I said I heard he was banging his head off the wall!Not the guards fault if he wanted to be a moron.

What will the parade achieve?advice on how not to be a nuisance to yourself while locked up for the night?

MrJoeSoap · 19-05-2006 04:14AM

Not very related at all, but might lighten the mood a bit!...

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(Don't complain about it being a bebo link... PLEASE!)

ziggy · 19-05-2006 04:24AM

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blu_sonic · 19-05-2006 04:51AM

sounds terrible, not yhe incident a 1 post user using boards as an advert i mean

blu_sonic · 19-05-2006 04:52AM

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Not very related at all, but might lighten the mood a bit!...

http://www.bebo.com/FlashBox.jsp?FlashBoxId=723620354

(Don't complain about it being a bebo link... PLEASE!)

Class LMAO

Ag marbh · 19-05-2006 08:11AM

Karoma wrote:

Scumbag that died whilst in custody...

Did you ever see a picture of the guy? do you know anything about him? Why is he a scumbag?

This guy was murdered by Guardai.

Ag marbh · 19-05-2006 08:12AM

Karl Hungus wrote:

Hmm, sounds like the Garda actually got off their asses for once. Fancy that?

You think beating people is doing there job ?

Eoin · 19-05-2006 08:15AM

Ag marbh wrote:

Did you ever see a picture of the guy? do you know anything about him? Why is he a scumbag?

This guy was murdered by Guardai.

Accusations of murder are a bit more serious than accusations of being a scumbag. Have there been any charges pressed by the DPP?

Hagar · 19-05-2006 08:20AM

I don't know the case but I'm fairly certain that nobody should die while in custody, for any reason.

Ag marbh · 19-05-2006 08:27AM

eoin_s wrote:

Accusations of murder are a bit more serious than accusations of being a scumbag. Have there been any charges pressed by the DPP?

No but it's my opinion he did die due to the way he was treated in custody. The cell he died in suddenly needed rennovations soon after the death destroying potential evidence.

Katykaboom · 19-05-2006 08:29AM

You heard he was smacking his head off the cell walls? Get more reliable information! what a loada of crap!

Eoin · 19-05-2006 08:30AM

Hagar wrote:

I don't know the case but I'm fairly certain that nobody should die while in custody, for any reason.

What about the suspected gunman who also died in custody recently? Loads of people immediately automatically assumed police brutality - and it turned out that he was very ill from cancer as well as other complications from a recent motorbike crash.

Ag marbh wrote:

No but it's my opinion he did die due to the way he was treated in custody. The cell he died in suddenly needed rennovations soon after the death destroying potential evidence.

Is it your opinion that they had planned to kill him? "Murder" is not an accusation that should be thrown about lightly.

cargrouch · 19-05-2006 08:32AM

http://www.garda.ie/angarda/press/2005/p22jun2005.html

Garda Website wrote:

Arrest and detention of Terence Wheelock at Store Street Garda Station on the 2nd June, 2005.
The above incident has created a huge amount of media interest and in many cases this coverage is based on versions which are not factually correct.

Terence Wheelock, along with three others, were arrested at 12.10pm on the 2nd June, 2005, for an offence under Section 112, Road Traffic Acts (Unauthorised taking of a vehicle).

The vehicle, which is a disabled driver vehicle, had been stolen sometime earlier in the Donnybrook area. When recovered, some €5,500 of damage had been done to the car, including the destruction of a mechanical lift required for the driver to access the vehicle. The lift was recovered in the home of one of those arrested. The three others involved in this incident were charged with offences relating to the matter, two of whom appeared in Court on the 16th June, 2005. The other person failed to attend and a warrant was issued for his arrest.

Two of those arrested were detained at Mountjoy Garda Station, while Terence and one other were detained at Store Street Garda Station arriving there at 12.20pm. He was placed in a cell at 12.25pm and between that time and 2.40pm he was checked in his cell on five occasions. On each visit all was found to be in order.

At 2.40pm on checking the cell, Terence was not visible through the inspection hatch. The Garda on duty entered the cell and found Terence unconscious and lying against a side wall with a ligature tied around his neck. The ligature was secured to a fixture which is counter sunk into the wall.

With the assistance of other Gardai, Terence was lifted from this position and the ligature removed from around his neck. One officer immediately commenced mouth to mouth resuscitation and others commenced CPR. An ambulance was summoned at 2.44pm and Terence was removed to the Mater Hospital at 2.52pm. by Dublin Fire Brigade.

Some media reports refer to extensive bruising on Terence's body. The Gardai see no reason for this nor were they noticed by the Gardai or DFB personnel who attended the incident.

Gardai cannot access a person's medical records without their express permission or that of their next of kin. This permission has not been forthcoming to date.

The Commissioner has appointed Detective Superintendent Oliver Hanley, Dun Laoghaire Garda Station, to examine the circumstances surrounding this incident and pending the outcome of his enquiries, it would be unwise for An Garda Siochana to comment further in the matter.

KEVIN DONOHOE
SUPERINTENDENT
GARDA PRESS & PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER

Stole a disabled drivers car. Accusation of scumbag justified IMO. The fact that he was a scumbag and his joyriding friends are scumbags will tend to make it difficult for people to believe a story that Gardai faked his suicide.

Hagar · 19-05-2006 08:41AM

eoin_s wrote:

Loads of people immediately automatically assumed police brutality.

Just to clarify, I never even hinted at police brutality. The Gardaí have a duty of care to anyone in their custody. It seems from the quote above that they checked on the prisoner regularly and therefore they did exercise reasonable care in the circumstances. I think they went beyond that. I would not give mouth to mouth to a prisoner in those circumstances, CPR yes, mouth to mouth no.

Slightly off topic - did poor cell design play a part?
Should there be anywhere for someone to hang themselves in a holding cell?

/Edit Maybe that's what the renovations were about.

joe_chicken · 19-05-2006 08:48AM

Ag marbh wrote:

No but it's my opinion he did die due to the way he was treated in custody. The cell he died in suddenly needed rennovations soon after the death destroying potential evidence.

Yeah, and it's other peoples opinion that people who steal disabled peoples cars are scumbags and would generally take the word of the garda siochana

Or are they all lying? And you're the only one who knows the true answers... fight the power man... take down the system... you could be next... I could be next... the WHOLE GODDAMN MESSED UP WORLD COULD BE NEXT

Gummy Panda · 19-05-2006 08:52AM

Ag marbh wrote:

This guy was murdered by Guardai.

Will you ever get a grip!!

Boston · 19-05-2006 08:57AM

Ag marbh wrote:

Did you ever see a picture of the guy? do you know anything about him? Why is he a scumbag?

This guy was murdered by Guardai.

And what proof have you of that then? If I said Ag Marbh is a rapist, I'd ahve about as much proof to back me up, nothing. Also the guy was a scumbag, you can argue he didn't deserve to die for stealing a car, but don't argue that joyriding isn't scum.

Wheelocks attacked by Gards last night

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