A humanoid skull on Mars?

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 02:50PM

awww man now you sound like a fruit cake. humans riding around on dinosaurs?? lets forget about the millions of years between eh?

So Glad · 10-05-2006 02:57PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

awww man now you sound like a fruit cake. humans riding around on dinosaurs?? lets forget about the millions of years between eh?

Yes but the fact is, these stones were carved thousands of years ago and that is what they dipict.

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 03:00PM

I had a look at them, and I dont see anything that looks like a dinosaurs, but they could easily be mistaken for dinosaurs if people wanted to believe so.

The Nazca Lines are pretty cool though!

So Glad · 10-05-2006 03:07PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

I had a look at them, and I dont see anything that looks like a dinosaurs, but they could easily be mistaken for dinosaurs if people wanted to believe so.

The Nazca Lines are pretty cool though!

Dinosaur

Nazca lines?

Zillah · 10-05-2006 03:09PM

Gurgle wrote:

Nope, I don't expect anyone to prove that. I want you to consider the possibility that civilizations rise and fall and we have no way to know how high they rose 40,000 years after they fell.

No sorry you're talking nonesense. To build a rocket you have to have the appropriate socio-technical systems in place. You can't build a rocket without metals, or plastics or petroleum fuel or ten thousand other advanced materials, and you need the advanced science and mathematics behind it. And you can't have any of those things without a massive well developed industrial society.

So whatever the hell facts about fossils you want to abuse, there's no getting around the fact that such a society would leave a mind numbing crap ton of archaelogical evidence.

Gordon · 10-05-2006 03:15PM

Ica Stones - the truth...

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 03:15PM

the cone head skulls are pretty interesting..

http://www.crystalinks.com/incanskulls.html

yeah the Nazca Lines

http://www.crystalinks.com/nazca.html

Zulu · 10-05-2006 03:17PM

So Glad wrote:

Since the discussion has changed from sarcastic cynisism to probable theories I shall show you some very interesting human history regarding alien encounters with our early civilizations (REALLY early BC). Ever hear of the Lumarian civilization? It is believed that they were the oldest civilization recorded and they were an astounding race. Drawings carved in stone from this era show open heart and brain surgery, continental tectonic plates (discovered the last 100 years or so), encounters with aliens, astronomically correct maps of the heavens, dinosaurs (which have only been discovered within the last 100-200 years)and humans mounted on dinosaurs(which have only been discovered within the last 100-200 years) as if they were tamed and even mating rituals with the aliens to aid the human race in it's evolution. These were incribed thousands of years ago so these things could not have been known without prior given knowledge. Darwin has not solved everything by the way. There are still HUGE gaps of time where nobody knows how the human form evolved and what we do know is usually based on few fossil (as they are incredebly rare).

It is very probable that alien interference aided human evolution.

AAAAHAHAhahahahahaha

Classic. Absolutly classic. That's great. <wipes tear from eye>

Aw where do I start... ..."open heart and brain surgery" - carved in stone, in stone! "humans mounted on dinosaurs" "and even mating rituals with the aliens"...

...ahahahahahaha

Zillah · 10-05-2006 03:17PM

So Glad wrote:

Ica Stones

About the Ica stones

More about the Ica stones

It is very probable that alien interference aided human evolution.

Or...

Allegedly, these stones were found in caves and stream beds. Because they are rocks and contain no organic material, Carbon-14 dating cannot be used. Because these locations have not been disclosed, it is impossible to judge with certainty their age based on the geological stratum. Further, finding that the rocks are themselves significantly old would not prove the engravings themselves are. Neil Steede, an archaeologist who was investigating the Ica stones for The Mysterious Origins of Man (a film attempting to make the case humans existed far earlier than previously thought), found no patina on the engravings although the rocks had patina on them, suggesting that the engravings are indeed younger than the rocks.

In 1977, during the BBC documentary Pathway to the Gods there was an interview of Basilio Uschuya, who produced a "genuine" Ica stone with a dentist's drill and claimed to produce the patina by baking a stone in cow dung. This was for a period of time overlooked. However, in 1996, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of the stones. The newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted the authorities of Peru to arrest Basilio Uschuya. Under Peruvian law, it is illegal to sell archaeological discoveries. Basilio recanted that he had found them and instead claimed that they were hoaxes he and his wife created. He was not punished, and continued to sell the stones to tourists as trinkets. He confirmed that he had forged them during an interview with Erich von Däniken, but recanted that claim during a later interview with a German journalist.

From wikipedia.

Aside from that...they're just stones with engravings! There is no way to accurately date them! None at all, they have no organic components. Why oh why would you assume they're ancient and genuine rather than new and fake, when all the evidence points towards them being frauds.

So Glad · 10-05-2006 03:19PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

the cone head skulls are pretty interesting..

http://www.crystalinks.com/incanskulls.html

yeah the Nazca Lines

http://www.crystalinks.com/nazca.html

Those skulls are...unbelievable...what the hell are they?

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 03:23PM

http://www.skepdic.com/icastones.html somebody posted this link above and it states that SOME of the stones are pre-columbus.

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 03:27PM

So Glad wrote:

Those skulls are...unbelievable...what the hell are they?

Its a ritual of basically putting an infants head into a 'vice' to make it like that. some people believe they were trying to mimic aliens.

aparantly 1 in every 100 skulls found in digs is a cone headed one. not sure about that 'fact', but still pretty weird thing to do to an infant.

they also found tiny holes in the tops of the skulls and the skulls can hold 2 ltrs of brian, where as we can hold 1.5

Zulu · 10-05-2006 03:32PM

So Glad wrote:

Those skulls are...unbelievable...what the hell are they?

Oh well evidently they are alien skulls. Exactly like the aliens from that movie - you know thae ones, gray with big buggy eyes and a big oval head. Obviously....

...or maybe they are old humanoid heads that got stretched a bit from so much faster-than-light travel. Evidently these humanoid travellers were visiting earth to mate with diosaurs and stone-age women. Perverts. :mad:

Son Goku · 10-05-2006 03:34PM

Gurgle wrote:

Are the requirements for forming fossils present on Mars?

Is there enough atmosphere/weather on mars to uncover a fossil several thousand years old?

No to both. Particularly not in the region claimed.
Mars has some sandstorms in various places, but they aren't very intense.

Mars' atmosphere is far less dense than which is what gives it its isotropic surface. Fossils wouldn't last long at all.

Degsy · 10-05-2006 03:51PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

Its a ritual of basically putting an infants head into a 'vice' to make it like that. some people believe they were trying to mimic aliens.

aparantly 1 in every 100 skulls found in digs is a cone headed one. not sure about that 'fact', but still pretty weird thing to do to an infant.

they also found tiny holes in the tops of the skulls and the skulls can hold 2 ltrs of brian, where as we can hold 1.5

Its a custom found in quite a few societies(mostly ancient,for example the huns).Basicly they bind the infants head with tight bandages over a period of years and eventually get the "cone-headed" look.I'm not sure but i think its stillprcatised in Papua New Gunea today.Another custom,especially in china was binding the feet to make them very small.Early body art youcould call it!

Degsy · 10-05-2006 03:52PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

Its a ritual of basically putting an infants head into a 'vice' to make it like that. some people believe they were trying to mimic aliens.

aparantly 1 in every 100 skulls found in digs is a cone headed one. not sure about that 'fact', but still pretty weird thing to do to an infant.

they also found tiny holes in the tops of the skulls and the skulls can hold 2 ltrs of brian, where as we can hold 1.5

Its a custom found in quite a few societies(mostly ancient,for example the huns).Basicly they bind the infants head with tight bandages over a period of years and eventually get the "cone-headed" look.I'm not sure but i think its still prcatised in Papua New Gunea today.Another custom,especially in china was binding the feet to make them very small.Early body art youcould call it!

RandolphEsq · 10-05-2006 03:54PM

FX Meister wrote:

What a load of crap. Something that looks like a skull and suckers are all over it thinking it must be a skull. Get a life. FACT

what makes you so sure its not a skull? were you on mars holding it and testing it to see if it was a skull?

MrJoeSoap · 10-05-2006 03:56PM

BrightEyes wrote:

what makes you so sure its not a skull? were you on mars holding it and testing it to see if it was a skull?

What is the problem with people on this thread? The problem is how the **** would a skull get onto Mars. It bears a slight passing resemblance to a skull, end of story. Its a rock! Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that.

Degsy · 10-05-2006 03:57PM

The whole idea of aliens being radish-headed with big black eyes is very modern..absolutely NOT seen before the 1940's.Prior to that they tended to be robots,humanoid or animal-like in appearance.Blame "Communion" by Whitley Streiber,and the 1950's version of "war of the worlds" plus every crappy alien magazine of the late 90's!

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 03:59PM

an evoultion. heads are getting bigger, bodys smaller.

blu_sonic · 10-05-2006 04:00PM

mrjoesoap wrote:

I can't believe I'm actually having to argue that Neanderthal humans never built rockets to Mars.

That should be you sig, I think I laughed harder at that then anything else!!

Seriously are people that bored that they go looking for things that aren't there? Ancient people who seem to have vanished without a trace? Wheres the crap that thet left behind, DONT say it was all wood and stone etc, they must have had some metals or materials that wouldn't decay if they were meant to be flying around the place

I don't see how anyone could be duped by those stones, the cave they were found is "can't be found" because it’s not a cave its some chaps shed, and he carved them!!! They are another type of people that we have no record of, where the tools??? Where are the remnants of their society??

Think of this if it all went tits-up for us we'd leave so much crap behind, buildings that would leave geological remnants i.e. foundations etc!!! So assuming that they could fly and do open heart and brain surgery I’m guessing they had a lot of development where is that gone???????

MrJoeSoap · 10-05-2006 04:00PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

an evoultion. heads are getting bigger, bodys smaller.

Brains are getting smaller as well by the looks of this thread.

FX Meister · 10-05-2006 04:01PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

2,718 posts and your telling him get a life?

Yeah that's what I'm doing noob. What relation does post count have to having a life?

FX Meister · 10-05-2006 04:02PM

So Glad wrote:

Eh. You just proved my point......it looks like a bloody skull, so it MIGHT be a skull.

It can't be a skull. If an astronaut had been killed on Mars and his body removed from his space suit I think we would have heard about it somewhere on the news.

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 04:03PM

FX Meister wrote:

Yeah that's what I'm doing noob. What relation does post count have to having a life?

haha noob?

oh the things i should call you.

MrJoeSoap · 10-05-2006 04:09PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

haha noob?

oh the things i should call you.

Have a go at me while you're at it. And the people who set up this site and have 2,000+ posts. See how they like it.

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 04:12PM

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Have a go at me while you're at it. And the people who set up this site and have 2,000+ posts. See how they like it.

hahaha! who are you? Jimmy Conway?

:rolleyes:

not having ago, just proving a pointing out that he shouldn't be telling other people to get a life

FX Meister · 10-05-2006 04:23PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

hahaha! who are you? Jimmy Conway?

:rolleyes:

not having ago, just proving a pointing out that he shouldn't be telling other people to get a life

But you didn't really prove a point. You just made an ass out of yourself. Post count does not dictate what kind of life you have. But if you believe there are humanoid skulls on Mars and it hasn't become common knowledge then that's just sad.

easy_as_easy · 10-05-2006 04:31PM

haha I dont its a human skull, just open to theories, having a laugh and generally not being up tight, why are you so defensive? touch a nerve did I?

stop flaming or being a troll or whatever the term is.

Zulu · 10-05-2006 04:44PM

easy_as_easy wrote:

haha I dont its a human skull, just open to theories, having a laugh and generally not being up tight, why are you so defensive? touch a nerve did I?

stop flaming or being a troll or whatever the term is.

Am I to take it that I'm "up tight" because I'm not "open to theories*"

*by "open to theories" here read sap.

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