New Aldi In Celbridge, over 18s only

mp3guy · 28-04-2006 05:59PM #1

So, I walk down to the new aldi in celbridge today to see what stuff they've got, and theres a small notice on the door that says "Children under the age of 18 must be accompanied by an adult". I try to get in either way, as I'm 17 and look well over 18, and I'm asked for ID. Obviously I couldn't supply it, so I'm left standing outside the shiny new store, and when I ask why, I don't get an answer. Has anyone got any idea whats going on here? Is this legal? I haven't seen it at any of their other stores. Is it something they do temporarily with new stores? Is there any consumer act I can throw in their face to get in?

Sand · 28-04-2006 06:05PM

More than likely they had their legal guys run over it before implementing the ban. Im pretty sure the legal guys have a better grasp of the law than people on an internet forum.

Anyway, just get your mum or dad to bring you to the store if youre so desperate to get in.

Mimikyu · 28-04-2006 06:09PM

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Sand · 28-04-2006 06:20PM

That sounds strange. It's not as if it's an adult sex shop. Even weirder that they are strict about ID aswell if you look over 18.

Not really, its not as if 15 and 16 year olds are a significant part of their income, whereas there doing most of the shoplifting/generally acting the maggot. Banning them without adult supervision is a neat way to keep out low spending trouble whilst not stopping your actual customers from entering. If anyone feels strongly about it, shop elsewhere until they miss your money.

lostexpectation · 28-04-2006 06:27PM

If this was challended in the high court Aldi would loose( Atleast I hope they would)...

not allowing a singular 17 yr old into a shop is rubbish... not allowing a load of giggling 15 yrs old fella in at the same time I would understand.. but this example is Jobsworthiness

faceman · 28-04-2006 06:32PM

mp3guy wrote:

So, I walk down to the new aldi in celbridge today to see what stuff they've got, and theres a small notice on the door that says "Children under the age of 18 must be accompanied by an adult". I try to get in either way, as I'm 17 and look well over 18, and I'm asked for ID.

Sorry dude, ur still considered a minor until u turn 18 so there is bog all u can do. As for looking well over 18, if they asked u for id, its time to grow that moustache!

KTRIC · 28-04-2006 06:36PM

"we reserve the right to refuse admission" - Thats all they need on the door.

Its their shop and legally they can refuse anyone they want and if they sell drink (which they do) they have grounds for not letting under 18's in.

lostexpectation · 28-04-2006 06:42PM

K-TRIC wrote:

"we reserve the right to refuse admission" - Thats all they need on the door.

Its their shop and legally they can refuse anyone they want and if they sell drink (which they do) they have grounds for not letting under 18's in.

So you don't think they are wrong in what they do?

KTRIC · 28-04-2006 06:44PM

lostexpectation wrote:

So you don't think they are wrong in what they do?

Not in the slightest. They own the shop, its private property, closed case.

chump · 28-04-2006 07:01PM

lostexpectation wrote:

If this was challended in the high court Aldi would loose( Atleast I hope they would)...

not allowing a singular 17 yr old into a shop is rubbish... not allowing a load of giggling 15 yrs old fella in at the same time I would understand.. but this example is Jobsworthiness

lostexpectation wrote:

If this was challended in the High Court Aldi would lose (At least I hope they would)...

Not allowing a lone 17 yr. old into a shop is rubbish...
Now not allowing a load of giggling 15 yrs old fellas in at the same time I would understand... but this example is Jobsworthiness

tut tut

Dooom · 28-04-2006 07:36PM

chump wrote:

tut tut

How was that necessary? What he said (bar the lack of capitals and a letter) was fine. Spell Czechs was created for a reason.

sportswear · 28-04-2006 07:54PM

Not in the slightest. They own the shop, its private property, closed case

yep 100%

nesf · 28-04-2006 08:00PM

chump wrote:

tut tut

Don't do that on here.

Piste · 28-04-2006 08:23PM

chump wrote:

tut tut

And yet you didn't notice his misspelling of challenged?

garred · 28-04-2006 09:03PM

mp3guy wrote:

So, I walk down to the new aldi in celbridge today to see what stuff they've got, and theres a small notice on the door that says "Children under the age of 18 must be accompanied by an adult". I try to get in either way, as I'm 17 and look well over 18, and I'm asked for ID. Obviously I couldn't supply it, so I'm left standing outside the shiny new store, and when I ask why, I don't get an answer. Has anyone got any idea whats going on here? Is this legal? I haven't seen it at any of their other stores. Is it something they do temporarily with new stores? Is there any consumer act I can throw in their face to get in?

It was on the Gerry Ryan Show this morning. Apparently it went on throughout the country with a lot of callers with the same problem. He rang their head office and their explanation was under the law the had to refuse under 18/s as alcohol was openly on display.
Did'nt hear the end of the show as the Ryan lad was contacting the vinteners assoc to see if this was right.

face-the-phase · 28-04-2006 09:21PM

Thats ab. awful as far as im concerned. Alot of 16/17 years old are in university
/ college or living ALONE and should be able to shop anywhere. As far as having alcohol on display all supermarkets do so i cant see that as a reason.

garred · 28-04-2006 09:28PM

Yeah, sure every Spar has wine,etc on display. I think you can get the show at the RTE website to see what the outcome was. It was a p1ss poor (and according to Gerry...bullsh1t) statement by their head office.

Our man in Havana · 28-04-2006 09:34PM

What time was it on at as I don't fancy listening to the full 3 hours.

Lord Oz · 28-04-2006 09:38PM

Age discrimination.

Mimikyu · 28-04-2006 09:51PM

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Our man in Havana · 28-04-2006 09:53PM

Simple, just go to Lidl.

Corruptedmorals · 28-04-2006 10:20PM

mp3guy wrote:

So, I walk down to the new aldi in celbridge today to see what stuff they've got, and theres a small notice on the door that says "Children under the age of 18 must be accompanied by an adult". I try to get in either way, as I'm 17 and look well over 18, and I'm asked for ID. Obviously I couldn't supply it, so I'm left standing outside the shiny new store, and when I ask why, I don't get an answer. Has anyone got any idea whats going on here? Is this legal? I haven't seen it at any of their other stores. Is it something they do temporarily with new stores? Is there any consumer act I can throw in their face to get in?

Looks like you got rid of teh beard too soon! Pwned! But yeah..that's incredibly stupid..

lostexpectation · 28-04-2006 10:41PM

what is it about this phrasing having 'alcohol on display'?....

Whats the set up in Aldi do they have seperate 'shop' within a shop for it and its own counter?

Its not they sell alcohol and when you take some from the shelf you go to the checkout and if there any doubt they required you to show a good ID... that where the prevention of sale to alcohol to balances.

Random · 28-04-2006 11:37PM

sportswear wrote:

yep 100%

Gotta agree with this every time - no matter how much you dislike it.

pbsuxok1znja4r · 28-04-2006 11:48PM

Haha that's funny. (I'm over 18). I actually live just 5 mins away from that Aldi and work weekends in the londis across the road - (rivalry!)
My mate wants a job there so he'll be chuffed that there'll be no underagers working/shopping there, 'cause they wrecked his buzz entirely at his last job.
No idea whether that's legal or not though. maybe it's all ploy to get all the kids to desperately want to come into Aldi?

garred · 29-04-2006 12:12AM

lostexpectation wrote:

what is it about this phrasing having 'alcohol on display'?....

Whats the set up in Aldi do they have seperate 'shop' within a shop for it and its own counter?

Its not they sell alcohol and when you take some from the shelf you go to the checkout and if there any doubt they required you to show a good ID... that where the prevention of sale to alcohol to balances.

It is about the alcohol according to their head office statement. Their explanation is that they don't have a seperate shop for their alcohol, its on open display.
If you listen to the Ryan show on the RTE web site it'll go into more detail. Its in the first hour of the show. As I said earlier I don't know how this finished up as this "law" was being checked up on by Ryan (I only heard the various listeners complaints).
They are not doing their future potential customers any favours. You can't even go in for a bag of oranges unless your over 18 or accompanied by an adult:eek:

Don't worry Gerry Ryan is on the case!!!

monkeyfudge · 29-04-2006 12:22AM

Can't be easy to shop lift in Aldi, can it?

It's bloody difficult to get out of the place without buying something as the only exit is through a till... very annoying..

Boggles · 29-04-2006 12:34AM

K-TRIC wrote:

"we reserve the right to refuse admission" - Thats all they need on the door.

Its their shop and legally they can refuse anyone they want and if they sell drink (which they do) they have grounds for not letting under 18's in.

Not true I'm afriad. I'm actually shocked that this is their policy. They must be confused over Irish law and having alcohol on the premises.

It's discrimantion, absoutely no different from saying "We don't let blacks in".

They would want to change their policy or they will be challenged on it.

Lump · 29-04-2006 12:51AM

It's their property they can tell blacks/young people/chinese/irish people to **** off if they want. It's not law that if you build a shop you have to serve everyone. I often ****ed travellers out of statoil and the police had no problem with me doing it, the first few times they were in robbing, I rang the cops and they just said "Throw them out and bar them if they come back" That's what I did.

It's not discrimination not to serve a certain type of person, it's discrimination to hire them and then sack them because they are young/from an ethnic minorty.

John

Boggles · 29-04-2006 01:06AM

Lump wrote:

It's their property they can tell blacks/young people/chinese/irish people to **** off if they want. It's not law that if you build a shop you have to serve everyone. I often ****ed travellers out of statoil and the police had no problem with me doing it, the first few times they were in robbing, I rang the cops and they just said "Throw them out and bar them if they come back" That's what I did.

It's not discrimination not to serve a certain type of person, it's discrimination to hire them and then sack them because they are young/from an ethnic minorty.

John

Not true.

You threw people out of the garage because they were stealing, completely different. If you stood at the door and said I'm not letting you in because you are a member of the travelling community you are in big trouble.

Just taking Travellers as an example because you brought them up, scan the papers next week and I'd say you would find it hard not to find a story about a traveller who was successful in court against a publican who refused them admssion or service.

blu_sonic · 29-04-2006 02:42AM

In the uk you can refuse anyone admission, its your property your inviting people onto your premises. But in Ireland the customer has all the rights you can walk all over business and they can do very little to you, less you scream "civil rights", I don't think its good that they bar 17 and under seeing as i lived in carow and used aldi a fair bit now i was 18 but some of my mates were 17 what a jip, but its their progative.

ps. that user who corrected the spelling would maybe want to get a hobbie or something

New Aldi In Celbridge, over 18s only

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