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Right_Side · 07-04-2006 04:21PM #1

Does anyone have any idea when the results of exemptions will be posted? Esp. for BESS?

Andrew 83 · 07-04-2006 05:57PM

They announce the scholars on Trinity Monday (Monday after Trinity Ball, or perhaps Monday before but I think it's the Monday after) so that's the latest it could possibly be.

Crash · 07-04-2006 06:02PM

Exemptions are a fair bit before that though, arent they?

europerson · 07-04-2006 09:27PM

BESS exemptions are this Monday! :eek:

Thirdfox · 07-04-2006 09:46PM

Anyone do law schols? Are you allowed to reveal what was on the paper?

Right_Side · 07-04-2006 11:51PM

europerson wrote:

BESS exemptions are this Monday! :eek:

I heard that rumour but don't know how true it is. No lectures on Monday so don't want to go in unless its definite.

If they are what time do you imagine it would be at?

Time Magazine · 07-04-2006 11:57PM

It'd probably be mid-morning?

If you did Economics Schols it's quite possible I know you. If you're not going in on Monday and want me/Europerson to check for you we will. Send me a PM.

Right_Side · 08-04-2006 12:06AM

Post on here if they are up, that would be great.

Any confirmation from anyone important that they will be up on Monday?

Time Magazine · 08-04-2006 12:21AM

Pat McCabe is the origin of the Monday rumour.

If only we had Dr. Carol's phone number...

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Right_Side · 08-04-2006 12:22AM

Angry Banana wrote:

Pat McCabe is the origin of the Monday rumour.

If only we had Dr. Carol's phone number... .

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I'd believe Newman but I wouldn't take McCabe's words as gospel.

Time Magazine · 08-04-2006 12:26AM

Yeah thus the doubt and the declaration of "rumour"!

Although he's a fairly reliable source. I can't imagine the LA1240 exams (etc.) could be fully corrected by now though.

Right_Side · 08-04-2006 12:29AM

Angry Banana wrote:

Yeah thus the doubt and the declaration of "rumour"!

Although he's a fairly reliable source. I can't imagine the LA1240 exams (etc.) could be fully corrected by now though.

Well there was only 18 doing law I think, without accounting for any drop outs.

Time Magazine · 08-04-2006 12:34AM

True. But der General Paper? That'd be a helluva lot of Economy of Ireland answers?

Right_Side · 08-04-2006 12:34AM

Angry Banana wrote:

True. But der General Paper? That'd be a helluva lot of Economy of Ireland answers?

O'Hagan will fly through them. He replies to emailed essays in less than an hour!

Time Magazine · 08-04-2006 12:36AM

And even that's nothing on Dr Newman's response times in fairness!

Good point.

Who are you, by the way?

gilroyb · 08-04-2006 02:47AM

They get the exemptions list up fairly fast. In fairness though, even if you don't get full exemptions, you deserve the days off until the list goes up. Sit back and relax until you hear.

How do people feel they did by the way? Were there any exams in particular that BESS people didn't like?

europerson · 08-04-2006 12:09PM

According to Dr. Sean Barrett (of EC2030), the list of BESS Scholars was being compiled at a final meeting last Thursday. He said that everyone (staff) in the School of Social Sciences and Philosophy would practically know who the Scholars are at that stage. Obviously, such names will have to go before the Board. In that case, Monday would appear to be a realisable target for having the exemptions list up.

europerson · 08-04-2006 12:10PM

gilroyb wrote:

Were there any exams in particular that BESS people didn't like?

West European Politics. I'd rather not think about it.

ApeXaviour · 08-04-2006 01:19PM

Lot of bess heads here doin schols. So europerson, are you saying that in each school most of the staff already know (or will soon know) who is and who isn't a scholar? Or would it be only the one or two that need to know?

Will the exemption list be put up in the same place the schol timetables were? Not that exemptions would make a blind bit of difference to me (bein JS), but I'd check out the list n anyway.

europerson · 08-04-2006 03:00PM

ApeXaviour wrote:

Lot of bess heads here doin schols. So europerson, are you saying that in each school most of the staff already know (or will soon know) who is and who isn't a scholar? Or would it be only the one or two that need to know?

From the way my this particular lecturer was speaking, every lecturer who teaches a course within the BESS programme had to attend a meeting on Thursday (the second of two), at which each class's marks were presented, general papers examined, etc. to see who would get Schols. In this way, I would take it that practically every concerned lecturer would know, at this stage, who did well, who got Schols, etc. Now maybe the system is different down the science end, where there's less subjectivity, and potentially less need for Courts of Examiners and the like.

Will the exemption list be put up in the same place the schol timetables were? Not that exemptions would make a blind bit of difference to me (bein JS), but I'd check out the list n anyway.

It was last year, anyway.

ApeXaviour · 08-04-2006 04:51PM

Interesting, interesting... Yes I'm not sure a meeting of the same scale would occur down here, but it definitely would occur.

I've got a couple questions for the schol sitters. Did you write your full name and all up on all your answer sheets? Was that required or did you just need to put your seat number on it? How do you feel about the lack of anonymous marking? Do you think it will hinder or help you? I'm somewhat concerned in this regard considering I'm JS, might not boad well for me when being marked.

magicgumdrop · 08-04-2006 04:59PM

Well, last year it was the second week back, which'd make it this week coming... As I recall each faculty did it on a different day of the week, but we all had our happy or unhappy news by the end of it.

europerson wrote:

In this way, I would take it that practically every concerned lecturer would know, at this stage, who did well, who got Schols, etc.

Yup, this one's true. Though the announcement's on Trinity Monday in May and things do have to go to the Board of the College for formal approval, pretty much all of your lecturers will actually know already.

More than that, it's by no means uncommon to have one whisper in your ear that "it might be a good idea to come in on Trinity Monday":rolleyes: or in some cases even tell you outright. Just seems to be one of those things there's no consistency on - and it's also one of the many things they're thinking about changing in their review.

Right_Side · 08-04-2006 05:04PM

magicgumdrop wrote:

More than that, it's by no means uncommon to have one whisper in your ear that "it might be a good idea to come in on Trinity Monday":rolleyes: or in some cases even tell you outright. Just seems to be one of those things there's no consistency on - and it's also one of the many things they're thinking about changing in their review.

Which BESS lecturer would spill the beans?

ApeXaviour · 08-04-2006 05:32PM

magicgumdrop wrote:

Yup, this one's true. Though the announcement's on Trinity Monday in May and things do have to go to the Board of the College for formal approval

It's rarely a case that that will effect anyone though right? What circumstances would lead to it? Gross anti-social behaviour etc. that type of thing?

I know what lecturer I'm going to have a chinwag with next week

cuckoo · 08-04-2006 05:34PM

Right_Side wrote:

Which BESS lecturer would spill the beans?

It'd be more likely to be one that you're already on good terms with.

ETA: to expand on that one liner answer: as i think that it's a bit of a no no for the staff members to be leaking info from confidential meetings like that, so they're not going to be massaging the rules for someone that just appears randomly at their office door one day.

xeduCat · 08-04-2006 08:27PM

Now maybe the system is different down the science end, where there's less subjectivity, and potentially less need for Courts of Examiners and the like.

It's not. Courts of examiners are part of the College system, not the property of any one faculty. And yes, decisions on scholars etc are taken well ahead of Trinity Monday. The time and format of the release of exemptions is entirely up to individual academic units, though. And the extent of such exemptions is as specified in the College Calendar, and varies quite a lot from course to course, so make sure you know what applies to you (my friend told me etc doesn't count).

And finally, no-one told me that I was going to be elected as a Scholar. I turned up in the rain on Trinity Monday, knowing that I had exemptions (like most other candidates in law!) but with no quiet words or hints. I was always quite bitter towards those who knew in advance

cuckoo · 08-04-2006 11:26PM

EmuLemu wrote:

xucat you must consider the possiblity that none of your lecturers liked you.

Beat me to it!

xeduCat · 08-04-2006 11:42PM

True, although the dislike wasn't strong enough to stop me getting it

Actually, I suspect the sadistic streak in lawyers (what? never!) may also be a contributory factor.

xeduCat · 09-04-2006 12:22AM

Umm...thanks.

xeduCat · 09-04-2006 12:27AM

Yes. Next week's comment will be 'hey, did you see xeduCat in the library? He keeps looking over his shoulder and muttering something about calling security'.

cuckoo · 09-04-2006 12:48AM

xeduCat wrote:

Yes. Next week's comment will be 'hey, did you see xeduCat in the library? He keeps looking over his shoulder and muttering something about calling security'.

'is that a can of pepper spray in his pocket, or is he just happy to see me..?'

back on topic/

there's some sort of formal event on in the evening of Trinity monday for the new scholars, isn't there? for the sake of wardrobe sanity people should be told in advance.

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