NORAD on 9/11: What was the U.S. military doing that day?

the_syco wrote:

Facts? If the storyline was factual, it'd be clear, and to the point.

Exactly, so why is the official story full of inconsistencies and contradictions?

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

Actually, they're kind of closed, but we're not talking of a few inches, we're talking about a few thousand miles here. Not every mile is covered, so people can, and will, get through.

Kind of closed? They are completely wide open. What about the millions of Mexicans who have literally strolled across the border into the US?

It is as if the US and UK have been inviting attacks, from as it turns out, a non-existant threat.
This is despite their illegal detention and torture of innocent people, which looks like a desperate attempt to provoke muslims Worldwide.

Freelancer wrote:

No, just why if they planed this brilliant and insanely complex hoax why didn't they think about why didn't they plan what bush said next and where he was?

You're the one claiming he's a puppet, why didn't the people pulling the strings have a script and a plan for him on the day?

To make him look like the idiot he is continually portrayed as. We all know how accident prone he is aswell thanks to the media. Why they do this is probably so people like you can claim that the plan wasn't perfect, or he is too stupid to come up with a plan for a new pearl harbour(9/11) which was used as a pretext for war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Have you not read the PNAC document?, whose founders just happen to include Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle.

The document was produced in september 2000 and it includes the following chilling statement.

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor."

So why don't they have a control over google where you get all your videos and the majority of the internet users use to check information, and they don't control it? Your conspiracy is full of holes.........

Well they have to maintain the illusion of freedom, so by letting you put an X on a piece of paper every few years they make you think you are living in a free and democratic country. To keep up this illusion of freedom they have to create a problem first, for example in the case of videos on the net it could be internet child porn, wait for the people to cry 'what are you going to do about this?', and then they as usual will provide us with the solution, which in this case could well be the creation of internet 2.

http://www.internet2.edu/

The solution usually means making their job easier by giving them more power, and taking away some of our freedoms. They never try to tackle the root cause of the problem, as that would make sense, and society might actually move forward.

Freelancer wrote:

How on earth is any of his nonsense plausible?

Its a mixture of speculation and conjecture with a heavy dash of purile nonsense.

Good description of "the official story" of 9/11.

How can people keep ignoring all the overwhelming evidence?

What about WTC 7?

It is obviously a controlled demolition. We have all seen videos of them and it is the 1st thing that comes to mind when seeing the video. WTC7 housed offices for the CIA, FBI, NSA, Secret Service, SEC and Rudy Giuliani.

The owner even admitted they decided to pull it.

What about the numerous reports of multiple explosions on the lower levels of the twin towers?

What about the multiple eyewitness accounts of explosions from extremely reliable sources like firefighters and police?

What about the following evidence from an MIT engineer who describes in great detail how the official story is an impossiblity as it defies the laws of physics?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&q=wtc+7&pl=true

What about the molten steel found in the basements of the towers 5 weeks later?

http://www.4-freedom-privacy.com/articles/sonic-pulses-afp.html

Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center.

Tully was contracted after the Sept. 11 tragedy to re move the debris from the site. Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Md., for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures." Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived at the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation. AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. "Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements." These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon.

Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit. Asked what could have caused such extreme heat, Tully said, "Think of the jet fuel." Loizeaux told AFP that the steel-melting fires were fueled by "paper, carpet and other combustibles packed down the elevator shafts by the tower floors as they 'pancaked' into the basement." However, some independent investigators dispute this claim, saying kerosene-based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel, especially in an oxygen-poor environment like a deep basement.

This Tully lad is pleading with you to "think of the jet fuel" and don't forget their ridiculous pancake theory aswell.

Alternatively you can wake up to reality and stop ignoring all the overwhelming evidence.

kippy wrote:

Now, some parts of the official story are a bit weak....and there may have been some fabrication of the truth in order to apease the masses and make it look like nothing could be done about the whole thing.

The official story is full of contradictions, inconsistencis and even worse blatant outright lies. They even changed their story about the lack of a response from any fighter jets more than once.

If the official story is true then why did they wait till 431 days after the attacks to start the investigation? why did Bush and Cheney refuse to testify under oath? why did they fail to even mention WTC 7?

But the bottom line is this.......the government obviouslt dont want to say well, to be honest we were caught completely off guard and there was a lot more that we could have done.

So lieing about what happened that day was their only option?

Anyway some questions about the theory.
1. How many people do you think would have been involved in this whole conspiracy?
From top to bottom......including the guys who planted the explosives in the WTC and surronding buildings, to the people who planned and executed the whole thing- including the "suicide bombers" since you are alluding to the fact that the guys who the authorities said were on the planes werent at all.

Only a few people had to know the whole plan as the chain of command means that most people just do what they were told without questioning it. People that have a pretty good idea that they were unwitting accomplices are either keeping quiet to keep their job, to protect themselves and their family from harm, or for money. People who are talking aren't being taken seriously.

Dont you think that for an event this big one or more of these people would talk and provided inescapable proof that the whole thing was an "Inside Job"? Something this big cannot be controlled and executed by a few people at the top without a lot of help by far lesser paid people at the bottom who need the money and could do with selling a story or two..... ( to be honest this would be the same for most of these theorys)

Most US government agencies require people to take an oath of silence when they sign up. They are not called the secret service for nothing. Here we are more than 40 years on from JFK and still we don't know the full story, in this case you're living in dreamland if you think somebody who was involved in the mass murder of 3,000 innocent people is going to come out and put their hands up. The following is just another example of the truth being covered-up for decades.

EVOLUTION IN EUROPE; Italy Discloses Its Web Of Cold War Guerrillas

by Clyde Haberman

The New York Times
November 16, 1990

In Europe's new order, they are the spies who never quite came in from the cold, foot soldiers in an underground guerrilla network with one stated mission: To fight an enemy that most Europeans believe no longer exists.
The focus of the inquiry is a clandestine operation code-named Gladio, created decades ago to arm and train resistance fighters in case the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact allies invaded. All this week, there have been disclosures of similar organizations in virtually all Western European countries, including those that do not belong to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

"I admire the fact that we have kept the secret for 45 years."

3.Are you saying that terrorists are a "myth"?
Try telling that the relatives of the Madrid train bombings, the London Tube bombings and multiple attrocities carried out before and after september 11th. There is a very real threat out there and if you think there isnt you are very badly mistaken.

If you believe the war on terror is real then why are the borders of the US and UK left wide open?

I have not looked into them in great detail, but there is evidence of the London bombings being an example of state-sponsored terrorism.

The July 29 edition of FOX News Channel's Day Side programme revealed that the so called mastermind of the 7/7 London Bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British Intelligence Asset. Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and Terror expert John Loftus revealed that the so called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/mastermind_mi6_asset.htm

The following is a picture of the Murrah building in Oklahoma after a supposedly massive truck bomb, yet there is no hole in the ground. There was also reports of multiple unexploded devices in the building which were shown on TV only once, just like most of the eyewitness accounts on 9/11.

http://www.okcbombing.org/images/1114.jpg

Personally I believe everything I have been told (officially)related to September 11th. I believe more could have been done to prevent it but I do not believe that there was a consious effort by anyone in the US administration or otherwise who consciously caused or helped with the planning and execution of the attrocity.

That is madness, as despite overwhleming evidence that they lied numerous times you continue to have blind faith in their story?