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Computer Science - Where?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,204 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    aye - so do the rest of CS - however the Lloyd Building is also known as the institute of NeuroScience - who owns what in there i'd love to know at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I was told a couple of years ago by a guy that works in HR in IONA that they favour DCU and DIT graduates as they have much more practical knowledge of CS than TCD or UCD grads. His opinion was that they knew all the theory but couldn't program for shite! You're probably better off picking DCU. The DIT course is top notch, but it's based in Kevin St which is a bit of a ****hole!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    I was told a couple of years ago by a guy that works in HR in IONA that they favour DCU and DIT graduates as they have much more practical knowledge of CS than TCD or UCD grads. His opinion was that they knew all the theory but couldn't program for shite! You're probably better off picking DCU. The DIT course is top notch, but it's based in Kevin St which is a bit of a ****hole!

    For the Trinity course, you do very much have to learn to program yourself; there is, as you say, little practical programming. This is not necessarily a bad thing, provided you are capable of learning on your own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI


    rsynnott wrote:
    provided you are capable of learning on your own.


    :(


    I came to college to be spoonfed damnit.....


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    didnt we all?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭djmarkus


    that would be a bit unlikely, considering this is the tcd board....
    Well it beats me why this is in the trinner board as only about 30% of it content is about TCD.


    As for computer science in DIT, the honours course is well rounded, i'm in 3rd year and i've learned java, c, c++, programming languages (other interpreted languages aswell), a downside for me(mightnt be for you) is all the biz subjects thrown in for the sake of it, e.g. communications, management, marketing, financial account, biz law, and economics.

    And you have a chance to do work placement for a semester in 3rd year, which is a big plus with most employers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    didnt we all?

    Well, it's getting more practical (*shudder*) these days, what with "advanced java". "Advanced Java"! Why, in my day....

    djmarkus wrote:
    the biz subjects thrown in for the sake of it, e.g. communications, management, marketing, financial account, biz law, and economics.


    Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeek


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    djmarkus wrote:
    Well it beats me why this is in the trinner board as only about 30% of it content is about TCD.
    Odd i'd have said at least 80%, the rest is more rambling than much else.... Anyway its trinity students/staff that are the ones going on about everything here hence being the tcd board and not seeing alot of dit support...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Im thinking about CS in trinity also, not to good on the maths front though, ill be doing pass for the LC this year, but i think ill be able to manage a B3 *hopes* also interested in comp applications in DCU wondering what course will be less "mathsie" :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    are there any final year Cs students knocking abbout here? i presume you guys to a fyp like us ICTers? is it possible to change the topic(not supervisor) at this stage, just realised i'm in way over my head!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    Im thinking about CS in trinity also, not to good on the maths front though, ill be doing pass for the LC this year, but i think ill be able to manage a B3 *hopes* also interested in comp applications in DCU wondering what course will be less "mathsie" :confused:

    Trinity's not an option then; higher maths is a course requirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    I got the impression for some reason only needed a B3 in pass :confused: linky? ah well, theres plenty more courses!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    I got the impression for some reason only needed a B3 in pass :confused: linky? ah well, theres plenty more courses!

    You need a B3 in pass for the night course (the BSc one). As far as I'm aware, you also need to pay for that one tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,204 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    ^^all the above is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    what about the non-night course?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    what about the non-night course?

    Some mark or other in higher; I don't recall. Nothing dramatic, possibly a C, but it does have to be higher. There may be some form of exemption if you're a mature student.

    (Last year, I explained all this to at least 50 people at the department open day. It seems a common problem.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI


    You need a C3 in higher, which is a bit thick...the maths is hardly taxing (unfortunately) and anyone who did decent in Ordinary should be well able for it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,204 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    *shrug* i can understand the higher requirement - its not taxing but it does require elements of the honours course to be known if you dont wanna be dragged through the mire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    ah well! DCU looks more promising :rolleyes: for stupid people like me *shakes fist at honours maths peoples*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    You need a C3 in higher, which is a bit thick...the maths is hardly taxing (unfortunately) and anyone who did decent in Ordinary should be well able for it...

    CS already has a ludicrously high dropout rate; there is no cause to go making it easier to get in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭cianclarke


    ah well! DCU looks more promising :rolleyes: for stupid people like me *shakes fist at honours maths peoples*
    Is it any consolation my maths grade is D2, and I need a C3. Bollocks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Once you put in a decent amount of work between now and the LC you should be grand. Your grades always go up between this time of year and the LC if you work steadily. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭cianclarke


    Yeah, going on what I got in Xmas tests I only need to go up 10% - should be okay I guess. :)
    Any predictions on how much the points will go up this year? I'm guessing a fair bit given they have been pushing the course so much with their fancy IT graduates required and IT graduates gap diagrams...
    365 this year - will it go above 395?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    i worked out if i do badly, and get ALL c3's ill get at least 300-340 points, which is pretty good! hopefully i get at least a C1 in pass maths, and nothing lower then a c1 in other subjects! (which most of are higher)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭Peteee


    cianclarke wrote:
    Yeah, going on what I got in Xmas tests I only need to go up 10% - should be okay I guess. :)
    Any predictions on how much the points will go up this year? I'm guessing a fair bit given they have been pushing the course so much with their fancy IT graduates required and IT graduates gap diagrams...
    365 this year - will it go above 395?

    Hey, I'm in 3rd year Comp Systems in UL, you can PM me if thats any use to you!

    Best thing about UL comp sys degree (Apart from the fact half of the students dont live in thier parents house... I jest :v: ) is that you can have a B3 in ordinary level maths (Or D2 in higher... I got a B1 in pass)!

    Also do an 8 month placement in an IT company

    Degree is regognised by the IEI

    C++, Java, Small bit of lisp. No airy fairy 'business' modules. The maths is tough sometimes, but I get through it (I hate maths)

    I plan to move away from the programming (I despise programming too) and move onto networks in 4th year (2 dedicated networks streams for 4th year)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭cianclarke


    Peteee, thanks for the offer! UL looks great, maybe the best - but I don't particularly want to go to Limerick to be honest...
    I wish I could just lift the DCU degree and put it into trinity college! Ahwell.


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