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Operation Freeflow (www.freeflow.ie)

  • 27-11-2005 05:08PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭


    http://home.eircom.net/content/irelandcom/breaking/6837531?view=Eircomnet
    Garda launch Operation Freeflow 2005
    From:ireland.com
    Sunday, 27th November, 2005

    The Minister of State at the Department of Transport Mr Ivor Callely has launched Operation Freeflow 2005, the annual Garda campaign to ease the flow of traffic through Dublin city.

    The project, which is now in its tenth year, aims to alleviate traffic congestion in the Dublin area in the run-up to Christmas and includes the deferral and rescheduling of building works that may interfere with traffic.

    Freeflow - which runs from 27th November to the 5th of January - is intended to cater for pre-Christmas shopping, increased traffic congestion, Christmas Festivities and the post-Christmas sales.

    There will be an increased garda presence of 140 personnel around the city. Gardaí on Mountain Bikes will be used for traffic management in the City Centre.

    Garda air support will also be available to monitor the situation and identify the sources of obstruction.

    This year's initiative has been planned under the auspices of the Gardai and the Dublin Transportation Office in close co- operationwith local authorities and transport service providers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    http://www.thepost.ie/breakingnews/breaking_story.asp?j=3484380&p=3484395&n=3484472&x=
    Scheme unveiled to tackle Dublin traffic congestion
    27/11/2005 - 2:34:01 PM

    An additional 140 garda officers and late night services on buses, the Luas and the DART, are being laid on in Dublin in a bid to tackle traffic congestion in the run up to Christmas.

    The measures, which form part of Operation Freeflow, were unveiled today by Minister of State at the Department of Transport, Ivor Callely.

    Mr Callely said he hoped all those involved in the initiative, which is planned under the auspices of the Garda and Dublin Transportation Office (DTO), would help to make the Christmas period a more pleasant and satisfying experience for those living in, working in, and visiting Dublin.

    It is estimated that between 600,000 and 700,000 people will visit the city centre every day in the run up to Christmas, with 86,000 making a trip to Grafton Street.

    The Minister called on commuters and shoppers to do their bit to reduce traffic congestion by taking public transport wherever possible, using park and ride schemes and by phoning the city’s traffic control centre if they spot any problems.

    “Ireland’s economic success over the past decade has resulted in an expanding population, a growing workforce, increased urban spread, and sustained growth in car ownership.

    “While some of these developments are positive, they do present their own challenges in terms of traffic congestion,” he said.

    “I would very much like to remind everyone that the success of Operation Freeflow 2005 depends on the co-operation of all.

    “Today I am asking all the bodies involved to do what they can in ensuring that Dublin’s traffic is managed in the most practical and efficient way possible during what is the busiest time of the year for businesses and shoppers alike.

    “I would also like to encourage the thousands of commuters, shoppers and visitors to make their individual contribution to the success of what is very much a communal initiative,” he said.

    The extra officers will complement existing personnel and will focus on 169 road black-spots which have been identified by the gardaí, including the N4/M50 roundabout, Chapelizod village and the Rock Road.

    In addition, the Nitelink bus service will operate during the night from tomorrow, November 28, to January 7, with a half-hourly service on 24 routes until 4.30 at the weekends and every night in the week before Christmas. Selected routes will also run services on week nights.

    The Luas will have a night service until 3am on Fridays and Saturdays from next week; the DART will have a night train leaving at 12.30am and there will be additional spaces at park and ride car parks.

    There will also be traffic updates every four minutes during rush hour on Anna Livia 103.2FM live from the traffic control centre, which will be managing and monitoring all routes into the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭mackerski


    I unwisely drove onto the N3 citybound today from Snugborough Road. The overtaking lane was coned off with work going on, which is a good start to freeflow. I'd mention what the work was, but we don't really want that crash barrier argument again, do we. Oh poo...

    Dermot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭a_ominous


    I saw an item on the news tonight with a garda suggesting that people don't use their cars.
    I presume there'll the buses, darts and luases will be running monday - friday timetables at weekends then?
    No, just what I thought. So it'll be the car then...
    Muppets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    Isnt this supposed to help relieve traffic congestion??? they have cops on every corner interfering in the traffic flow which is causing more delays!

    example 1 - Glasnevin area turning left onto Whitworth Rd... traffic usually enters the bus lane just after the traffic lights to turn left as the bus lane comes to an end.. if you dont you wont get in... cop standing there this morning waving cars out of it...

    Result - cars back to finglas.... how is this helping?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Maybe you should take the bus then and you will be flying along them bus lanes :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭markpb


    example 1 - Glasnevin area turning left onto Whitworth Rd... traffic usually enters the bus lane just after the traffic lights to turn left as the bus lane comes to an end.. if you dont you wont get in... cop standing there this morning waving cars out of it...

    The same is happening at the junction of Clontard Road and Alfie Byrne road - there's a bangarda standing at the start of the turning left lane and admonishing drivers who enter the bus lane before her.

    A few weeks of guards reminding drivers of the rules of the road should do wonders ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Isnt this supposed to help relieve traffic congestion??? they have cops on every corner interfering in the traffic flow which is causing more delays!

    example 1 - Glasnevin area turning left onto Whitworth Rd... traffic usually enters the bus lane just after the traffic lights to turn left as the bus lane comes to an end.. if you dont you wont get in... cop standing there this morning waving cars out of it...

    Result - cars back to finglas.... how is this helping?

    I really strongly feel that what Dublin needs is someone to actually go to all these junctions, and sit there and examine them and work out how to improve traffic flow. What we certainly dont need is a bunch of fresh faced coppers acting like jedi Knights waving their bloody light sabres and telling is to go because the traffic light is green. I know the light is green, and I would be moving quicker if you werent in the middle of the bloody road blocking everyone!!!! Every year, operation freeflow adds at least 40 minutes to my journey to and again from work.
    Oh, i love Christmas.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭markpb


    Archeron wrote:
    I really strongly feel that what Dublin needs is someone to actually go to all these junctions, and sit there and examine them and work out how to improve traffic flow.

    Totally agree with this... there are a lot of junctions that could be much better with some small tweaks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,548 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    ... a bunch of fresh faced coppers acting like jedi Knights waving their bloody light sabres ...
    Right on! They don't appear to have received any training on proper traffic direction, and if they have they've forgotten it the instant they left Templemore. Loads of incoherent waving of the hands accompanied by angry stares at puzzled motorists who just can't make out what the hell they're trying to tell you. I've seen traffic wardens in the UK with better skills at traffic direction than the Gardai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    Archeron wrote:
    What we certainly dont need is a bunch of fresh faced coppers acting like jedi Knights waving their bloody light sabres and telling is to go because the traffic light is green.

    thats exactly what the copper at the end of Gardiner Street was doing this morning... i was thinking what the hell are you doing stopping traffic? i can see the light is red!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    I think the problem seems to be that by breaking the rules of the road people get to where they want to go faster but illegally. I can see drivers point of view that the should break the lights, turn where they shouldn't, enter yellow boxes hen ever etc... Considering there are relatively few road deaths in Dublin maybe the rules don't work that well so motorists can drive like they want. It might mean we all move quicker.
    Mind you it could just be the congestion that is the reason people drive safely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    The prob with O.F.F. is that there's cops on every corner therefore the trafffic crawls along - no cops=faster moving traffic!! :v: :v:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    its not about getting to where you want to go faster at all.. at certain junctions... if you done enter the end of the bus lane to turn left.. you will be going straight on because you will not get into this lane at the lights...... simple as that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Does the bus lane not end there and pick up again after the lights - you've got 2 lanes before cross guns and then 3 lanes after the lights!? I took my chances and stayed in the bus lane on Drumcondra Rd because there was another bike behind me - cop didn't bat an eyelid! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭James Hunt


    Archeron wrote:
    I really strongly feel that what Dublin needs is someone to actually go to all these junctions, and sit there and examine them and work out how to improve traffic flow.

    Correct.

    One thing they can look at, are the traffic light settings. I'm convinced that even a cursory survey of the traffic light change sequences/intervals at various junctions around the city and commuter belt, would improve traffic flow immensely. Also, signal-controlled roundabouts.....a funny concept at the best of times, although there are some necessary examples, but I bet that a critical review of some of them would lead to a bit of lateral thinking in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers


    markpb wrote:
    The same is happening at the junction of Clontard Road and Alfie Byrne road - there's a bangarda standing at the start of the turning left lane and admonishing drivers who enter the bus lane before her.

    A few weeks of guards reminding drivers of the rules of the road should do wonders ;-)

    I think as a cyclist this is great because it means no more guessing where exactly cars are going to turn and it leads to a much more orderly queue I find.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭beller b


    Operation freeflow is a joke.Got stopped in the buslane on Druncondra road, even though there is a big orange sign saying BUS LANE NOT IN USE..Thier idea of freeflow on the ballymun road was to set up a check cpoint for tak at 5 o clock in the evening..I wonder how much thier takings go up during the month of december?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭Archeron


    a_ominous wrote:
    I saw an item on the news tonight with a garda suggesting that people don't use their cars.
    I presume there'll the buses, darts and luases will be running monday - friday timetables at weekends then?
    No, just what I thought. So it'll be the car then...
    Muppets.

    No, that copper was right. Seeing as so many of us live so far outside Dublin, we should all use the fantastic public transport we have. I mean, the Luas and Dart and nightlink all run to places such as Kilcock, Monasterevin, Portlaoise, Naas, Kildare, Trim, Navan, Kells, Delganey, etc, Dont they? Oh no, they dont. Silly people please note, we have no choice but to use our cars!!!!!! Its all well and good telling people to get into public transport but that doesnt apply to commuters. Please remember this before admonishing us for using the only means of grossly overpriced transport we have available to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭beller b


    Seen even better today. The Druncondra road back up with traffic & a Guard busy writing out parking tickets. Were these cars parked in the bus lane or obstructing traffic..?NO they were all in parking spaces outside houses...
    What a joke.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭jd


    penexpers wrote:
    I think as a cyclist this is great because it means no more guessing where exactly cars are going to turn and it leads to a much more orderly queue I find.
    Why don't you use the cycle lanes there!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers


    jd wrote:
    Why don't you use the cycle lanes there!

    I join the Clontarf Road at Hollyville Road so trying to use the cycle lane from there would be pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    The junctions are set to allow x amount of cars, so they don't clog up the next junction. If you let too many cars through it blocks the next junction. All the junctions should be interlinked. They don't look at them in isolation. All a garda does it speeds up some junctions and cause havoc at the next one.

    That said they are not trying to ease traffic. They are trying to force you off the road. If they removed half the bus lanes and empty cycle lanes the traffic would be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    If they removed half the bus lanes and empty cycle lanes the traffic would be ok.
    The traffic would be "OK", but nobody would get to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Victor wrote:
    The traffic would be "OK", but nobody would get to work.

    What??? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭Ray777


    If they removed half the bus lanes and empty cycle lanes the traffic would be ok.

    Ridiculous. If more people who live on bus routes decided to leave their cars at home, the traffic would be ok. Far too many people use their cars unnecessarily because they're too lazy/snobbish to use public transport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭beller b


    Why should I leave my car at home to wait in the cold & rain for a crap public service?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    beller b wrote:
    Why should I leave my car at home to wait in the cold & rain for a crap public service?
    WHy should you indeed. As people won't do it by choice they will be forced to do so. Make driving worse and public transport better. Make cars more expensive to run and cost more. If you ever wonder who is to blame for the expense of running a car look at the people who don't need to drive and do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭Archeron


    As many people who have just spent three hours in their cars trying to get into Dublin will know, operation Freeflow is once again an unmitigated disaster. All over the main entrance points to our fine capital, we have officers of the law proving to all and sundry their complete ignorance as to how the traffic should actually flow. With their blinkers on they happily make busy dual carriageways sit through 3 sets of light changes, as every single vehicle is allowed out of every single side road. We have seen this every year, and I am convinced that this year is worse than ever with, from my own personal experience, a 30 mile journey from Meath to Dublin taking up to three hours. This is bulls*-t.
    The dept of transport has failed the city of Dublin miserably. It is choking to death to the point where people dont want to be anywhere near it. Its all well and good telling us that in 20 years time, we'll have Luas' everywhere, and park and ride, and so on and so on. Aside from the fact that no-one believes this anyway, when I sit in traffic at a complete standstill, i think to myself: I DONT CARE ABOUT 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD!!! DO SOMETHING NOW! END THIS MADNESS!! Martin Cullen forcing the farce that is freeflow down our throats every year is a token gestrure to show that they really do "care", while continuing to do feck all except show great plans and tell us the evils of using cars. Do we really have to put up with this? Must we spend up to 6 hours a day in our cars with a smile on our face as we think how unbelievable things have become in Dublin? Must we sit there confused as traffic cops dance around junctions waving light sticks at people with an obvious complete lack of knowledge as to what they are supposed to be doing?

    I do expect that as always in this country, we will just sit and smile, but if anyone has suggestions as to how we can end this madness, please email them to info@transport.ie In the meantime, I call on minister Cullen to stand up to his responsibilities and tell the people of Dublin and its commuter belt what will happen, not wihtin the next 5/10/25 years, but in the next year. Either do something positive, or admit you're useless and resign. This city needs someone who wil act immediately, not just talk the usual government ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭UberNewb


    penexpers wrote:
    I join the Clontarf Road at Hollyville Road so trying to use the cycle lane from there would be pointless.

    They should give penalty points to cyclists who don't use the cycle lane and make them pay for a cycle lane tax! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Yesterday I was stuck in traffic in Santry and Guard was just standing there doing nothing. Its a joke. Only seen the Guard move once to write a ticket for some poor fella who joined the main road and got a ticket not sure why though.
    Either cos his tail was in other lane (by the way traffic wasn't moving in any direction so wasn't blocking anyone , and i know its wrong) or cos light had just gone red when he done it. Not sure :confused:

    Anyway the Gurad looked bored out of his tree standing there !


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