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projectmayhem · 25-11-2005 02:04PM

ferdi wrote:

mortal combat theme rules

that was done by KMFDM, an industrial group normally...

i dislike any "uncey" music but i do have time for SOME dance/electronic stuff

aphex twin
juno reactor
overseer
dj shadow

and so on

magpie · 25-11-2005 02:08PM

what the real issue here magpie?

That's a very Jeremy Paxman type question - let me see...

I think the issue is that this music is designed to be as intrusive/aggressive as possible in order to appeal to its target market sector, which therefore by definition makes it incredibly uncomfortable to have to listen to at earth-shuddering volumes from passing cars / neighbouring houses. And again, given its target market, they're not receptive to requests to turn it down.

magpie · 25-11-2005 02:10PM

I've been kown to listen to Aphex Twin, Squarepusher etc... but as we all know that stuff is a bit cranial to be used effectively in the war on civilisation being waged by the Chewns Massiv.

SpAcEd OuT · 25-11-2005 02:13PM

Quite a generalisation there.

Nathan Fake,Orbital,Will Orbit ever listened to any of them?

A lot of people seem to judge dance solely on what the clubs play and what they hear the filth listening to in their subed up cars...not all dance is like this and it is very ignorant to think so.

A lot of people here are saying dance is only good when your loved up, thats fukin bull**** all the E does is enhance it,I enjoy listening to dance completely sober,you dont need drugs to enjoy it...despite what many here think

youcancallmeal · 25-11-2005 02:17PM

magpie wrote:

What is it with techno/hardcore/garage or whatever you want to call that drivel that makes the reebok-wearing Peugeot 206-driving fraternity love it so? Is it that its viewed as being "mad"? Personally I wouldn't listen to that sh1te even if I was e-d out of my bin, but what I can't fathom is listening to it first thing in the morning on a sunday for instance.

Does anyone else understand it?

Who took my false teeth?

magpie · 25-11-2005 02:19PM

Orbital,Will Orbit

Yep, familiar with their oeuvre.

What I'm talking about here is the stuff which consists of sirens, artillery-level bass kicks and someone shouting that "this here is the good sh1t this is the hardest fastest sh1t ever COME ON" which leads to more sirens and faster louder drums.

Can we not put a blanket ban on this stuff? Can't wait for ASBOs TBH.

slipss · 25-11-2005 02:23PM

one of the unce unce-iest pieces of music ever released is Born Slippy by Underworld and if a smile deosn't cross your face the second ye hear it starting to play ye have no soul.

Karl Hungus · 25-11-2005 02:42PM

I'm of the opinion that music is Art and Expression. However, I fail to see what a repetative beat is expressing, or if it's considered Art at all.

tman · 25-11-2005 02:47PM

magpie wrote:

Yep, familiar with their oeuvre.

What I'm talking about here is the stuff which consists of sirens, artillery-level bass kicks and someone shouting that "this here is the good sh1t this is the hardest fastest sh1t ever COME ON" which leads to more sirens and faster louder drums.

Can we not put a blanket ban on this stuff? Can't wait for ASBOs TBH.

or perhaps you should just stop listening to **** dance music and judging all other genres by it...

25-11-2005 02:50PM

dance is savage in nightclub but only in nightclubs!

magpie · 25-11-2005 02:50PM

or perhaps you should just stop listening to **** dance music and judging all other genres by it...

a) I don't listen to it

b) This thread isn't about the other genres - its about the stuff that emanates from Puntos and the like

Creature · 25-11-2005 02:54PM

projectmayhem wrote:

that was done by KMFDM, an industrial group normally...

Actually it was done by a group called the Utah Saints. KMFDM did however contribute a song to the soundtrack, just not that one.

Cianos · 25-11-2005 02:55PM

Every single piece of music follows a beat, with Dance music the beat is more pronounced and is of a faster speed....thats what makes it good to dance to. Music snobs (wont name any names) tend to get stuck up their own arses when they hear a piece of music with a heavy beat and a fast pace and suddenly dismiss it as an invalid piece of music. In fact, the whole categorisation of music is bullsh!t anyway...if you like how it sounds, listen to it. If you dont, dont. When people start associating music with style and ones "image", it takes away from music as a whole. Its just another form of conformity.

azezil · 25-11-2005 03:03PM

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm of the opinion that music is Art and Expression. However, I fail to see what a repetative beat is expressing, or if it's considered Art at all.

Oh the tripe you listen too, which sounds like a guy trying to swollow a mic and grunting a lot is...?

joe_chicken · 25-11-2005 03:05PM

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm of the opinion that music is Art and Expression. However, I fail to see what a repetative beat is expressing, or if it's considered Art at all.

Hahahaha... I'm not too sure the people who are pressing the buttons are too worried about "Art"...

but in their defence if Tracey Emin can make a living, anything can be art

Tar.Aldarion · 25-11-2005 03:07PM

azezil wrote:

Oh the tripe you listen too, which sounds like a guy trying to swollow a mic and grunting a lot is...?

It's the lyrics not the voice that can be art.

slipss · 25-11-2005 03:10PM

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm of the opinion that music is Art and Expression. However, I fail to see what a repetative beat is expressing, or if it's considered Art at all.

Don't most songs and most styles of music use some kind of a repetative beat, I'm pretty sure if you went through the top 40 chart virtually all the songs would have a repetative drum beat or bass line.

Also if the total sh1te that is entered into the Turner prize is considered art then pretty much anything can be.

And theres the opinion that great music is anything that prevokes a stong emotional response, as opposed to sounds that just conform to a set of rules.

Interceptor · 25-11-2005 03:15PM

Art is two-thirds of Fart. Rock is cock with an R instead of a C and dance music is like ice-cream - it is best served to young people in large quantities. Old people like magpie don't understand what it means to be young and enjoy frivolous things like bangy trance in a cheap car through crackly speakers.

Off to a home with you where you can listen to Nirvana all day and drink soup out of a mug.

'cptr

joe_chicken · 25-11-2005 03:17PM

Interceptor wrote:

Art is two-thirds of Fart. Rock is cock with an R instead of a C and dance music is like ice-cream - it is best served to young people in large quantities. Old people like magpie don't understand what it means to be young and enjoy frivolous things like bangy trance in a cheap car through crackly speakers.

Off to a home with you where you can listen to Nirvana all day and drink soup out of a mug.

'cptr

so old people dont like ice-cream?

weirdos

Interceptor · 25-11-2005 03:21PM

joe_chicken wrote:

so old people dont like ice-cream?

weirdos

Missed that point altogether there Mr. Chicken - some old people LOVE ice-cream but they wouldn't queue in the rain to get it, whereas young people would sell their souls for its head-numbing coolness.

'c

dahooligan · 25-11-2005 03:36PM

*pushes his cap forward to a more respectable 20 degree angle*

What seems to be happening here boys and girls, is a argument about differences in taste.. I hate point out the blatently obvious but people seem to get carried away with themselves and some may even start to think that music = religion which of course has to be forced unto non believers... (deep breath)

Night clubs will play anything that will get peeps up dancing - personally like it when Maniac2000 is played at 2.30 in the morning and I've had an adequate amount of beer taken onboard! But this is not to say that I like it at 11 in the morning when I'm goin for a coffee break... then I find that a bit of Mozart helps to sooth the banging headache from the night before.

Point is that people like different things, what makes YOU so great that you can tell someone else that their music is ****e. Surely ya have bigger things to be worrying about?! As for the 206, celtic jersey wearin unce unce unce unce crowd... each to their own. If they are playing the music too loudly from the car then soon enough the boyos in blue will catch up with them to make our streets safer.

Smile and be glad we're all different!

magpie · 25-11-2005 03:44PM

Off to a home with you where you can listen to Nirvana all day and drink soup out of a mug.

Sounds good. If we can change the music around and have a bit of Bowie or The Stooges every other day then you've got a deal.

Old people like magpie don't understand what it means to be young

Even venerable persons such as myself were young once, except in those days the proper order of things was still in place: Young People had no money with which to buy cars, crackly speakers, or techno (or 808 State as we called it then...back in the day) and thus were not an irksome annoyance to our elders and betters.

SpAcEd OuT · 25-11-2005 03:44PM

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm of the opinion that music is Art and Expression. However, I fail to see what a repetative beat is expressing, or if it's considered Art at all.

good dance songs tend to tell a story,hard to explain :v:

magpie · 25-11-2005 03:49PM

good dance songs tend to tell a story,hard to explain

Does that story involve leaving school at 14, having children at 15, having a micra resprayed purple with alloy wheels at 17, having a €2000 per week income at 18 (plumber/tiler/candlestick maker), having 4 holidays in the canaries per year, and dying age 55 from a massive heart attack after only ever eating chips or cereal?

You know, if you listen to it, the story is all there...

Anima · 25-11-2005 03:56PM

What music do you like so Magpie?

Interceptor · 25-11-2005 03:59PM

Anima wrote:

What music do you like so Magpie?

Oh he likes both kinds, Country and Western

'c

magpie · 25-11-2005 04:00PM

Hard House, Gabber and Handbag.

BoozyBabe · 25-11-2005 04:03PM

It depends on what you mean about dance music?

If you're talking about that rave sh!te, where there's no song or anything, it's just dumph dumph dumph dumph dumph dumph dumph de dum dum dumph dumph...., then eh, NO!!!

I like the whole 70's 80's thing, but also like a tune that has a cool song to it that you can sing to & a good beat to it that you can dance to.

That probably makes no sense whatsoever!!

Ste- · 25-11-2005 04:20PM

Bloody hell, when did people get so closed minded ?
Granted people do play music loudly in their "souped" up cars.
It might not be to your choice but then are you going to go into a techno club at three in the morning and tell them their music is ****e.
Just because you don't agree with them or that it's not your style/genre of music taste dosn't give you the right to pidgeon hole everyone that lsitens to a particular style/genre of music the same and call it ****e and not art worthy.
Is everyone that listens to metal a crazed long hair balck clothed freak ? I think not.

Would you still have posted this thread had they been playing some other style of music ? Coz I have heard various styles of music being blasted through some of these cars that have been done up. It's their car it's their style in music.

I'll leave with a familiar saying. What's one man's art is another man's garbage.

andrew163 · 25-11-2005 04:26PM

The System is Down by Home Star Runner (the website, not the band) (Strong Bad)

best dance tune ever

Someone mentioned Born Slippy by Underworld earlier.. I kinda like the first half or so of that song... sounds decent enough... (once it gets past that point it starts to sound like background music for a sonic the hedgehog game...)

I generally don't like unce-unce-unce dedly chewinz loike.. more into rock/metal/etc..bit of emo in there too.... but it's like someone here already said... it's not the genre that's important.. its just how the song sounds...

<edit>and yes those muppets playing it at full volume in their 206's at 4am with the windows open piss me off too.... same goes for any music..</edit>

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