Legalising Marijuana.

Corega · 05-05-2002 02:27PM #1

Let me get this straight I am not taking the piss, I consider this to be a serious topic and I hope I don't offend/insult anyone with this article, being a newbie it would'nt be a very good start.

My aim here is to see how many people of the general public would welcome the legalisation of weed, my other goal is to show the various advantages of legalising hashish.I won't bother with the disadvantages, there are'nt enough of them;)

n.b. I don't smoke weed on a regular basis and I'm not one of these "potheads" that have chains with marijuana symbols around their necks.

Here are the advantages=

1) In the likelihood of dope being legalised the government would no doubt buy it in bulk from Amsterdam/South America, the former being the most likely. Undoubtly they would buy it in vast amounts for the consumers and for a lot cheaper than the present going rate. The long term effect of this would be a general decrease in most taxes while maintaining a high rate of living.

2)Tourism would undoubtedly increase with all nations wanting to visit this wonderful isle.

3)It would take a large amount of drug dealers off the streets, it is debatable whether or not weed leads you on to harder drugs, but in my opinion it does not.

Any other advantages are welcome.

noog · 05-05-2002 02:34PM

I believe there would be less violence if Marijuana was legalised. People often fight when drunk, but when stoned they merely 'cant be arsed' to fight :-)

As for the 'bad' side of marijuana, I read a leaflet about all sorts of drugs, they had pages and pages of bad points about Drinking, Cigarettes, and other harder drugs, when they could only fill the Marijuana section with irrelivant waffle.

Free the weed!

red_ice · 05-05-2002 02:42PM

Originally posted by Corega
1) In the likelihood of dope being legalised the government would no doubt buy it in bulk from Amsterdam/South America, the former being the most likely. Undoubtly they would buy it in vast amounts for the consumers and for a lot cheaper than the present going rate. The long term effect of this would be a general decrease in most taxes while maintaining a high rate of living.

LOL no.

Im all for legalising weed - but get your facts right.

When we import, thats money going out of the country, not in.
When we buy this weed, we will charge a higer rate and tax will be through the roof!
The government has 3 relyables... Siggies, alcohol and oil.
the first two of the goods are a very inelastic good. When the price rises people will still buy the same amount. NO MATTER WHAT!
The last one is whats known as a giffen good. when the price goes up people buy more or at least maintane the same purchase rate.

the reason i said all that is because the government will make a fourth relyable... weed.

And for your information, taxes would stay the same, people SOL (standard of living) would fall and you contredicted yourself.

reD.

Monkey · 05-05-2002 02:45PM

"1) In the likelihood of dope being legalised the government would no doubt buy it in bulk from Amsterdam/South America, the former being the most likely. Undoubtly they would buy it in vast amounts for the consumers and for a lot cheaper than the present going rate. The long term effect of this would be a general decrease in most taxes while maintaining a high rate of living."

Why would the government buy hash? If it was legalized private businesses would supply it not the government, surely and wouldn't they start growing it here rather than necessarily importing it?

"2)Tourism would undoubtedly increase with all nations wanting to visit this wonderful isle."

Yeah, but not a good type of tourism. I'm not against the smoking of hash but during the Summer Dublin'd just be full of people stumbling about the place stoned all the time.
It would attract loads of unwanted people like drug smugglers trying to get hash out of Ireland to supply other countries. Plus it would cause loads of hassle when leaving the country. Customs would be giving Strip searchs to a lot more of the people coming out of ireland.

I still don't understand why it was ever made illegal.

TacT · 05-05-2002 02:49PM

although if we're importing it and money is going out and we're making a decent profit margin then surely we'd be making money

I reckon if it was decriminalised at the very least and household owner's were allowed to grow we'd be a much happier less nasty nation all around

just to be silly let's take a drunken driver vs a stoned driver

drunken driver carelessly slams foot down on pedal in rage and slams through his garage door and kills his wife doing the gardening :rolleyes:

stoned driver would more than likely barely apply any pressure to the gas and simply bump into the garage door, mebbe open it only to land himself in a fit of giggles cus the missus is out trimming the rosebush. Thus she see's him and puts him back in bed safely where he should have been all along :rolleyes:

back on topic, we could easily cultivate enough ourselves indoor's to satisfy the needs of our community/country while giving a few people a nice job and thus increasing the amount of people in employment

Corega · 05-05-2002 02:52PM

Stop taking the piss redser, Okay i was mistaken in that last statement however tac has set that right. But I think we can all agree there are many advantages more so than disadvantages.

RasTa · 05-05-2002 03:23PM

listen i was over in amsterdamm 2 months ago
the **** is so ****in strong that you wont be buyin loads of it
about 1 or 2 grams would probaly last me a week if i wanted to
and that costs 10 euros
the quainity's and the goodness off the stuff over ther is just so much better than the stinking filthy hash we get over here,i dont want straight legal ganja yet cause that wont happen
we should doing it like england and at least have it down to a class C drug at least,so ppl who are found with small amounts just get a warning

cartman · 05-05-2002 03:49PM

weed shud be legalised i no an ammount of ppl who smoke and its stupid when they get caut
the police cudnt be arsed doin more than takin it off them and it takes alot of gaurds time when they cud be workin at more serious issues like heroin or rape or somit...
WEED shud be and will be in d next few years legalised.....

BeNdEr..

Corega · 05-05-2002 03:52PM

Lets face it Bender the guards could'nt be pissed doing anything these days. And there more than happy to confiscate hash as they bring it home for their own use.

Boston · 05-05-2002 04:48PM

Im all for it, more revneue for the goverment lower taxes

Chaos-Engine · 05-05-2002 05:05PM

I all for it. I was at the Bushie park carnival for legalising Cannabis yesterday. Excellent atmosphere and very family orientated. Lots of fun....

As for the effects of legalising cannabis on the general public.
In th epresent Economist(May 4th-10th) there is a special report on "The Netherlands". It boost statistics to show how Decriminalising and regulating something can actully lead to decresed usage. Examples include: "The Netherlands has the lowest usage of Opium based drugs in Europe". "The Netherlands has the lowest abortion rate in the World"....

The only medical problem arround Cannabis is the need to listen to Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin...
Yes SMOKING Cannabis is 4 times more carsonagenic than tobacco. Therefore you will get lung cancer 4 times faster... Very true. So why not ingest it.
Cannabis has been proven to help suffers of MS in the longrun....
I'm no Cannabis Guru but everything tells me that the current system is seriously wrong....

P.S. Make that Drug/Cannabis board will u Dev

Monkey · 05-05-2002 05:44PM

"Yes SMOKING Cannabis is 4 times more carsonagenic than tobacco. Therefore you will get lung cancer 4 times faster" - yes but the average smoker smokes more cigarettes a day than the average hash smoker does spliffs. And there is less hash in a spliff than there is tobacco in a cigarette.

po0k · 05-05-2002 06:38PM

very good point Monkey, but smoking isn't the only way to take it.
Yogurts, hash tea, hash soup etc.

DeVore · 05-05-2002 06:51PM

I've spent many a weekend in Amsterdam and while its a very cool city I'm not sure I'd want Dublin to become like that, its effectively closed the city centre to the locals on the weekend.

That said, I see no reason why the possession of cannabis/marijuana should be outlawed in peoples homes or private areas.

Would certainly cut down on the number of drunk yobs smashing stuff up round town.

DeV.

po0k · 05-05-2002 07:02PM

Yeah.

Legalise.

Hellrazer · 05-05-2002 07:36PM

Definately should be legalised,while their at it they should also legalise heroin too(in a resticted way ie there are people out there who will never give up smak-and should be allowed to get it legally rather than going to some scum bag dealer) as Im a firm believer that if all drugs were legalised then the crime rate would drop to an all time low.
Its a proven fact that most crime is commited by drug addicts etc.
As for dope-jesus it should have been legalised years ago.

sisob · 05-05-2002 07:47PM

Originally posted by DeVore
I've spent many a weekend in Amsterdam and while its a very cool city I'm not sure I'd want Dublin to become like that, its effectively closed the city centre to the locals on the weekend.

I agree. I'd like to see it legalised world-wide but if it was just legalised in ireland then we would be another amsterdam and that couldn't be good

conZ · 05-05-2002 07:49PM

Originally posted by Chaos-Engine

Yes SMOKING Cannabis is 4 times more carsonagenic than tobacco. Therefore you will get lung cancer 4 times faster... Very true. So why not ingest it.
Cannabis has been proven to help suffers of MS in the longrun....

yes, smoking cigarettes is 4 times less harmful, but you wouldnt spark up a join ever half hour..
cannabis would probably only be smoked every few nights and you couldnt/wouldnt get addicted. so one mightnt be smoking for maybe a month on end.
anyways, lets just say if times were hard in a house,..
the people would def go out and buy fags if they were smokers, they couldnt last without them even if they only started smoking a few months before that.

Corega · 05-05-2002 08:49PM

Apologies people for my provocative pic earlier on. I hope this one dose'nt offend the general public:)

Wook · 06-05-2002 08:02AM

well just to point that 'smoking' is pretty harmless...a friend of mine left a allnighter with weed involved and drove away with his heavy motorcycle, we followed him and for our entertainment he had to stop in front of a red light...he fell sideways 'he totaly forgot to place his foot' as support

How silly does that look ?

Monkey · 06-05-2002 08:34PM

He shouldn't have been on a motorbike in that state, that's pretty irresponsible

Clintons Cat · 06-05-2002 09:59PM

i agree with monkey.

if he was so drunk he fell off his motorcycle,it probally wouldnt be considered such a big joke.

Jambo · 14-05-2002 09:01PM

legalise it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bleach · 15-05-2002 10:02PM

I say we legalize drugs, such as canabis, or even other harder drugs, even go as far as let everyone have the right to have a gun, the people who are vunerable to get addicted,will get addicted and eventually die off, making the world a better place.

The same with guns, i say let all the scum kill them selves off either by drug addiction or by letting them shoot each other off!

Thus making the world a better place for us! Then we can get stoned in peace!

Amen

papashiv0 · 16-05-2002 10:38AM

That would be the funniest thing ever, getting your hash with a harp branded onto it with one of those tax stickers that they have on cigarette packs. Maybe they'd start selling it in post offices. The possibilities are endless

Samba · 16-05-2002 11:44PM

Legalise it, dont criticise it

Tho the weed in Amsterdam is complete crap compared to what can be acheived in Natural Sunlight

And you would be surprised what is possible in Ireland (pssst get a green house)

Kali · 17-05-2002 12:29AM

Originally posted by Wook
well just to point that 'smoking' is pretty harmless...a friend of mine left a allnighter with weed involved and drove away with his heavy motorcycle, we followed him and for our entertainment he had to stop in front of a red light...he fell sideways 'he totaly forgot to place his foot' as support

How silly does that look ?

I honestly can't believe i've just read that. seriously.
I mean are you ****ing mentally retarded or something?
Do you usually let your "friends" drive off in such a state?
Do you usually follow them for "entertainment"?
How ****ing "silly" would it look if he caused a major accident?

My god I've nothing at all against dope, but thats just ****ing ridiculous and irresponsible.
Harmless yes. But not when ****ing tools like you use it.

Apologies for the asterixes.. but you need your head straightened.

Kali · 17-05-2002 12:31AM

Originally posted by Samba
And you would be surprised what is possible in Ireland (pssst get a green house)

you dont particularly need a greenhouse.. it'll grow almost anywhere as long as it gets a little bit of light, although i'm sure the end results are far more rewarding.

Makaveli · 17-05-2002 02:17AM

Originally posted by bleach
I say we legalize drugs, such as canabis, or even other harder drugs, even go as far as let everyone have the right to have a gun, the people who are vunerable to get addicted,will get addicted and eventually die off, making the world a better place.

The same with guns, i say let all the scum kill them selves off either by drug addiction or by letting them shoot each other off!

Thus making the world a better place for us! Then we can get stoned in peace!

Amen

Yeah that'll work.
No actually it wont, stupid.

Makaveli · 17-05-2002 02:21AM

Originally posted by Kali

you dont particularly need a greenhouse.. it'll grow almost anywhere as long as it gets a little bit of light, although i'm sure the end results are far more rewarding.

Yeah like in a cupboard with an halogen light (or something) and a fan, not that I'm speaking from experience.

fisty · 17-05-2002 02:46AM

Originally posted by DeVore
I've spent many a weekend in Amsterdam and while its a very cool city I'm not sure I'd want Dublin to become like that, its effectively closed the city centre to the locals on the weekend.

That said, I see no reason why the possession of cannabis/marijuana should be outlawed in peoples homes or private areas.

Would certainly cut down on the number of drunk yobs smashing stuff up round town.

DeV.

well - i just came back from living in rotterdam for 10 months.
and while i do believe hash should be decriminalised like in holland if you do push for it be prepared because there IS a lot of baggage that come with decriminalisation/legalisation. - Be prepared for a rise in street crime, an influx of immigration (btw - hollands main opposition to immigration was murdered for his views last week) I think if it was legalised it would be great but our society couldn't handle the baggage in my opinion.
What I say is wait until Britain and a few other countries legalise/decriminalise first, because if we don't mark my words 'our levels of crime will soar'

There is a reason crack and cocaine usage is rampant in holland.
and in my FIRST HAND opinion - its the decriminalisation of cannabis.

To summarise - Legalise, but hang back until other countries do it first - otherwise ireland will become another european portal for drug smuggling.
The unfortunate thing is the same people that will sell you cannabis will just as quickly sell you crack cocaine or heroin and thats the inherant problem.

Think about it or visit holland and see the problems their culture has because of their liberal laws.

My two cents.

Legalising Marijuana.

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