Why is prostitution illegal?

nolank2 · 18-02-2002 04:57PM

Legalising prostitution could be a real money spinner for the Irish Government, if they taxed it as high as cigarettes.

Meh · 18-02-2002 05:12PM

Originally posted by neuro-praxis
I must say that I don't feel that a prostitute would be much safer at all if she were working in a legalised environment. It would still be interminably difficult for her to ever claim someone raped her. The prostitute would still be at risk from psychopaths. Do you imagine that there would be a chaperone in a legal brothel?? She still has to shut the door and have sex with him alone. I don't really buy the safety argument at all.

The main difference is that, if a prostitute is intimidated or raped, she can go to the police without being afraid of incriminating herself. This will act as a deterrent to people who victimise prostitutes. Also, there'll be a bouncer in the brothel who will hear any screams or respond if a panic button is pressed.

JustHalf · 18-02-2002 05:14PM

Originally posted by chernobyl
and the church has everything to do with ppl considering sex as wrong, "the virgin mary" ohhh...mary was so pure because her body was never tainted by sex, complete bs.

Jeez. Complete idiocy.

* The Catholic Church does not believe sex is wrong. It believes that sex outside of marriage is wrong. Big difference.
* Mary wasn't pure merely because she was a virgin. That was just on of a list of attributes.

I'm not Catholic, but that doesn't absolve me from the responisibilty of accuracy.

Clintons Cat · 18-02-2002 09:38PM

Here is some things to bear in mind.

In parts of Africa the local slang name for Aids is "Scania" after the scania trucks of the male clientelle of truckstop brothels.

Secondly Some Men will positively refuse to wear a condom and some prostitutes are not in a position to refuse to have sex without a condom being worn.

Thirdly Males who use prostitutes also have sex with women not involved with the sex industry,Thus Aids is not an "industry specific" or localised problem

Fourthly in some areas Prostitutes are campaigning for better legal representation and recognition.
Here are some links to some groups and things,you get the idea,
http://www.walnet.org/csis/papers/index.html
http://www.bayswan.org/decrim.html
http://www.bayswan.org/penet.html
http://www.walnet.org/csis/groups/maggies/amsterdam_report/amst_report.html
http://www.walnet.org/csis/groups/maggies/
http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/2upa/Ies/MunicipalArchivesAmsterdam.htm
http://www.amsterdamcohortstudies.org/

NeRb666 · 19-02-2002 01:18AM

Surely those things you mentioned would be far easier to control/regulate if prostitution was legal. A prostitute isn't in a position to demand that the client use a condom, but if it was in a brothel or whatever, surely it would be "enforced", so to speak. The way it is now, they'd probably get raped anyway.

WhiteWashMan · 19-02-2002 04:51AM

because its untaxed and unregulated.

Clinical Waste · 19-02-2002 09:32AM

I am extremely impressed with the level of intel, rationale & maturity of this thread. This is exactly how the boards should be.

Of course I won't contribute here as anything I say will be smutty and inappropriate .

Jackoman · 19-02-2002 10:36AM

If you want to know the legalities of it all just check out this informative site

http://www.escortireland.com/Legal_Section.cfm

They will explain what is legal and how Escorts are legal. It is fundamentally all down to when the money is exchanged.
Good to see everybodys mixed opinions of it all.
Legalised prostitution is not always something a country wants, but look how the Dam worked out. Very strict and well organised prositution system of which the Government does well from. Personally I believe everything can be managed well and safely if run by the right people. And so long as they are not harming innocent parties then I think they should be free to do as they like.

azezil · 19-02-2002 02:42PM

jasus chernobyl i better keep an eye on you when next you come in! there'll be none of that while i'm on duty

Xterminator · 19-02-2002 05:01PM

Originally posted by JustHalf
Jeez. Complete idiocy.

* The Catholic Church does not believe sex is wrong. It believes that sex outside of marriage is wrong. Big difference.
* Mary wasn't pure merely because she was a virgin. That was just on of a list of attributes.

I'm not Catholic, but that doesn't absolve me from the responisibilty of accuracy.

Just a reply in the name of accuracy.

Mary a Virgin? There is historical evidence that she had other children than Jesus, thus the term virgin is no more applicable to her than any other woman.

Word actually used in Hebrew scriptures is "almah" (="young woman").

Hebrew word which could have been used, but wasn't, was "bethulah" (="virgin").

It was a mis-translation.

As a christian i believe Mary was special because she was chose to have the son of god, and because the conception was spiritual.
This Virgin business?

read here

can read more from here

The_Bullman · 19-02-2002 05:07PM

The catholic church only decided with the last catacism in the immaculate conception. Mary wasn't a virgin in the churches eyes until then.

Also(not 100%), doesn't the catholic church only support sex for procreation, i.e. it is ok for a married couple to have sex but only in an attempt to get her pregnant. Isn't this the issue with birth control

JustHalf · 19-02-2002 05:17PM

Jeez, Xterminator, I'm simply giving the Catholic Church's line on things, which Chernobyl was incorrectly describing.

And if you don't think that a woman can be a virgin one day and not be a virgin the next, you deserve a slap of the highest order.

TwoShedsJackson · 19-02-2002 06:02PM

First off, tax collecting is the oldest profession, not prostitution.

Second off, this:

Originally posted by duran duran
P.S. I love the "if we make it legal, then everyone will want to do it" arguement. such an old chestnut. when homosexuality was legalized in ireland did heterosexual men and women feel compelled to begin a new life of non-stop, mindblowing gay sex?

for the most part, no, they did not.

'for the most part', gave me the best laugh I've had in a while

pH · 19-02-2002 08:55PM

Dunno 'bout you CT, but I was a little tempted for a while, seeing as it was legal an' all.

pH

Victor · 19-02-2002 11:43PM

If it is so 'consensual' why do 'clients' have to pay for it? Isn't there a substantial element of financial desparation? This makes the situation quite one-sided.

chernobyl · 19-02-2002 11:46PM

Originally posted by Victor
If it is so 'consensual' why do 'clients' have to pay for it? Isn't there a substantial element of finanacial desparation? This makes the situation quite one-sided.

Dont goto work tomorrow then.

Victor · 19-02-2002 11:54PM

Originally posted by chernobyl
Dont goto work tomorrow then.

Despite being financially desparate, I refuse to work (or prostitute myself for that matter

).

chernobyl · 19-02-2002 11:55PM

But you get the point right.
"9 to 5's" are exploitation in an acceptable way.

JustHalf · 20-02-2002 12:02AM

Exploitation is always wrong. Where's capitalism, anyway? I need to smash it. It's so cool to be a rebel.

Sarcasm off.

Clintons Cat · 20-02-2002 06:51AM

Originally posted by NeRb666
Surely those things you mentioned would be far easier to control/regulate if prostitution was legal. A prostitute isn't in a position to demand that the client use a condom, but if it was in a brothel or whatever, surely it would be "enforced", so to speak. The way it is now, they'd probably get raped anyway.

That might be the point i was making.

Why is prostitution illegal?

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