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Man dies after taking Magic Mushrooms

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Wertz wrote:
    I'm not familiar with what controls are in place to stop younger people getting their hands on mushrooms...
    None really, I was in one shop browsing and saw young lads being refused. Common sense would tell the owners not to sell to young lads, they would have the law or a crazed father onto them. They have been asked by the gardai to stop selling before. Last thing they would want is their (extremely lucrative) business under risk by selling to a couple of kids.
    I heard the story on TV3 this morning, was sure it was some kid, but a 33 year old...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    I guess in that guys case though, and as with a lot of people they think it must be ok to take mushrooms as you can buy them in a shop legally. They don't fully understand what they are doing when they take the drugs. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    FX Meister wrote:
    I guess in that guys case though, and as with a lot of people they think it must be ok to take mushrooms as you can buy them in a shop legally. They don't fully understand what they are doing when they take the drugs. .

    ...which is most likely why a ban will be imposed and shove the whole thing underground, when instead they (governement/legislators) should try and do it in a similiar way to booze or tobacco....
    But that'd be too much trouble and make it look like they're condoning recreational drug use. Better to impose heavy fines and jail terms for posession or supply and stop "that type of thing" than try to educate potential users about the possible risks involved...I've never once done a drug that I hadn't done at least a little looking into about first. The legality didn't bother me (once I didn't get nabbed lol)
    Play hard, but play safe...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    I don't think it would go underground really. Maybe just revert back to the way it used to be. If you wanted to go tripping on mushrooms you had to make an effort to go and pick them. Maybe it's too easy now for someone to just walk into a shop and buy them without any thought to why they are buying them or what effect it will have on them. If things like this are more freely available then they are more likely to be abused by the masses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    More people are killed by drink driving than by doing stupid things under the effects of Magic Mushrooms but alcohol is still perfectly legal. The drug itself isn't that harmful, but it can lead to abnormal behaviour which can lead to death. If the man had been sensible he would have had a few good friends not under the influence of anything watching over him.

    I've seen those 'stoner' and 'spliff' magazine covers. I found them very clever, they manage to pack a lot of information into a small space. Kudos to drugsinfo.com or whoever they are.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Jimi-Spandex


    And natural selection works its magic once again.

    Personally, I think it would be a good idea for the government to regulate the sale of shrooms but if the people who sell them do so responsibly and self regulate effectively they should be able to keep selling them and keep the cops off their back.

    I'm thinking of such things as not selling them to minors and perhaps giving out leaflets with info on the effects of them to people who buy a punnet of shrooms, just so they know what they are letting themselves in for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Cow sh!te will be banned next :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    slipss wrote:
    it was in the evening Herald aswell

    which doesn't come out in the evenings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    stevenmu wrote:
    Personally, I blame the ground. People seem to overlook the fact that the number one ranked cause of death in falling, or falling related fatalities, is the ground itself.

    I demand new legislation compelling the ground to maintain it's relative position with all mankind, or to only change it in a manner consistent with the safety of any persons who may otherwise be endangered by it's rapid approach, where allowable by the relevant laws of physics, whatever they may be at the relevant time.


    The ground has destroyed lives and families. Anyone who disagrees is basically supporting terrorism.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    FX Meister wrote:
    I guess in that guys case though, and as with a lot of people they think it must be ok to take mushrooms as you can buy them in a shop legally. They don't fully understand what they are doing when they take the drugs. .
    Tbh, I doubt there's many 33 year olds out there who don't know what magic mushrooms are or what they do. We've all had years of drug 'education' shoved down our throats and it's done practically nothing. For example we all know how bad drinking and driving is, yet look how many people still do that. There's always going to be idiots who do stupid things that get them killed, all we can do is sit back and be gratefull that they've removed themselves from the gene pool, and that thankfully this time no one else was taken out too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Ahh I found it in the Herald, thanks folks :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,635 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    stevenmu wrote:
    Personally, I blame the ground. People seem to overlook the fact that the number one ranked cause of death in falling, or falling related fatalities, is the ground itself.

    I demand new legislation compelling the ground to maintain it's relative position with all mankind, or to only change it in a manner consistent with the safety of any persons who may otherwise be endangered by it's rapid approach, where allowable by the relevant laws of physics, whatever they may be at the relevant time.

    The ground is innocent!! It was gravity I tell's ya...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭SpAcEd OuT


    maybe theres one less moron in the world now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    wrote:
    A Halloween partygoer who had taken magic mushrooms leapt to his death convinced he could fly. The 33-year-old mans girlfriend watched in horror as he plunged 40ft from the balcony of a plush apartment. Last night there were calls for a ban on the magic mushrooms - bought LEGALLY at a herbal shop in Dublin. Witnesses at the party in Dun Laoighaire on Sunday night told how the man had started acting strangely. One guest said "He suddenly jumped up ran on to a balcony and flew straight into the air". Cops believe the man started hallucinating after eating the mushrooms. He jumped from the fourth story of a five-storey building. The witness added " These mushrooms are deadly. This young man began acting weirdly."
    "The stuff he took has similar effect to LSD-its hallucinogenic. He obviously thought he could fly. He bought the mushrooms in a herbal shop and they ended up killing him." Gardai yesterday cordoned off the area at upmarket Anchorage Apartments in Clarence St. Dun Laoghaire. Detectives from the national drug unit fear Ireland could be swamped with magic mushrooms - which are banned in the UK. A legal loophole means the Dutch produced fungus is legal here. One top cop last night told the Sun "We could have an epidemic on our hands unless this problem is sorted out." Senior officer plan to hold emergency talks with Justice minister McDowell today to discuss closing the loophole.


    Wierd, I was possibly 200 meters away from this at the time, out of it on mushrooms also. Didnt do anything like that though. My hand looked and felt a bit funny and the walls kept moving.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The papers never mention that apart from those "evil pushers" in a certain "herbal shop" halucingenic mushrooms grow naturally in Ireland.

    They are going to have some craic trying to ban them.

    Look half my fecking field is illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭pdunno


    OK, there's no doubt that this guy was obviously a bit of an idiot. But the other side of the coin is that if he hadn't taken the mushrooms he would never have attempted to 'fly' off the balcony.

    I have seen some people get ****ed up on mushrooms (and other drugs for that matter) and I don't think there is any doubt that if they are not taken in some kind of moderation then they can be dangerous. It's how you set these limits which is important. Most people seem to know when to stop, however there will always be a few who don't recognise the boundaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Picture this, your in a party in a apartment you have never been in before, you take some shrooms and your sitting on the couch in a room full of people, they come on strong, a bit too strong for your liking, the panic starts to rise and your head is expanding past its normal size and you make a break for the door, except the door is not a door its a small balcony. Game over.

    It could have easily happened like that. He may not have been an idiot, It could just have been an accident.

    R.I.P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Guy in question must have been an idiot. i've done plenty of hallucinogenics in my time and have never once felt the urge to start flying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Guy in question must have been an idiot. i've done plenty of hallucinogenics in my time and have never once felt the urge to start flying.

    Different strokes for different folks. I know of a guy who ended up in a mental hospital because of a bad acid trip. The physiology of the brain is different from individual to individual, and many people in the mental health profession suspect there are links between drug taking and mental disorders like schizophrenia. It wouldn't be so much fun when that happens, now would it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    I love the odd dose of shrooms every now and again but i've been predicting that magic mushrooms would be made illegal in ireland ever since these shops in dublin city started selling them. It had to happen. All it takes is for one fool to jump off a building while on mushrooms.

    when people had to pick them for themselves or personally buy them over the internet, at least it meant that individual was proabaly quite informed and was prepared for the effects. Once clue-less people were able to walk off the street and munch down as much as they want without research, something like this was inevitable.

    Of course we cant actually know that it was the mushrooms that caused this guy (33 years old FFs) to think he could fly. Personally I have never, nor have I ever read or heard of anyone thinking they could fly while on shrooms. with drink takenand/or other hard drugs i have heard of it.

    The reactionary nature of irish politics, law system, press and society in general means that there will be a lot of people talking alot of **** on a topic none of them have a clue about.

    This will be one more recreational drug that will be made illegal by people who are completely ignorant. Everything fun-enducing that is not Alcohol is squeezed out of this country. makes me sick.

    edit: how can mcdowell seriously ban mushrooms when they MAY have contributed to one suicide when Alcohol remains legal and is clearly the DIRECT CAUSE of so many deaths and so much misery? seriously, WHAT THE ****????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    it's definately the ground that's to blame.

    where did the shrooms come from? the ground, that's where.

    what killed the guy by hitting him really hard in the head? the ground, exactly.

    i rest my case.

    barely worth a mention in the darwin awards tbh.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Guy in question must have been an idiot. i've done plenty of hallucinogenics in my time and have never once felt the urge to start flying.

    Yeah hes the idiot alright...

    Most idiotic post ive even seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Dilly1


    Absinthe was banned in the early 1900's because a man killed his family after drinking two glasses, What the press failed to reveal was that he had also drank various bottles of brandy, wine and whiskey. And he was probably a 'NUTJOB' anyway. :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Chief--- wrote:
    Yeah hes the idiot alright...

    Most idiotic post ive even seen.

    Maybe you should explain your point without being such an asshole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Dilly1 wrote:
    Absinthe was banned


    and so it should be!!!!:D

    Evil stuff that makes you black out and wake up with the wrong trousers on, and none the wiser to who they belong to. (I still dont!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Ag marbh


    Picture this, your in a party in a apartment you have never been in before, you take some shrooms and your sitting on the couch in a room full of people, they come on strong, a bit too strong for your liking, the panic starts to rise and your head is expanding past its normal size and you make a break for the door, except the door is not a door its a small balcony. Game over.

    It could have easily happened like that. He may not have been an idiot, It could just have been an accident.

    R.I.P

    I think he would be too paranoid to go hop off a balcony in that state of mind.

    Mushrooms should stay legal but I do think the shop owners need to take more responsibility. They need to be respected and it's not the sort of drug you eat to go raving. I and most friends think mushrooms should be only done occasionally with a bit of mental preperation leading up to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Ag marbh


    and so it should be!!!!:D

    Evil stuff that makes you black out and wake up with the wrong trousers on, and none the wiser to who they belong to. (I still dont!)

    No immaturity makes you wake up with the wrong trousers on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭The Troll


    ronoc wrote:
    Maybe you should explain your point without being such an asshole.

    Exactly.

    Drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and using any other drug has an associated risk. I'd have to agree that anyone who suddenly feels they have the ability to fly has something seriously wrong in their heads. Yes, different people get affected by drugs in different ways, but the guy in question is most certainly the exception rther than the rule. I know numerous people (myself included) that have frequently indulged in shrooms, acid, k etc. Unsurprisingly, none of us have ever felt the need to go for a quick fly through the air ala superman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    Ag marbh wrote:
    No immaturity makes you wake up with the wrong trousers on.
    well then, Thank God for immaturity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    I thought those stoner magazine things posters were either a real mag or an ad by Cannabis Ireland Alliance oir that crowd, theyre fcukin hilarious:D Anti stoner messages NEVER hit home to smokers- thats why me and my mate broke our sh1t laughing at a Herald headline reading "Priest Gave Hash to Children" (it was the actual headline made us laugh- the story was the rather unfunny one of how that bastard in Wexford had got kids drunk and stoned before molesting them)

    Still, "good thing we didnt live near that ****, we`da got fcuked!" as my mate remarked :eek:

    Re the ads, the chat up lines you wont recall when stoned has me laughin, rather reminds me of the time we went to Waterford on a college rag week bus trip. Me and my mate in some nightclub, surrounded by beautiful women.....and too utterly stoned to give a sh1te :D In the whole night there Id say we bought two drinks, we spent most of the rest of our time runnin down the back every 15 mins to skin up, it was animal

    Shrooms do odd things to people. Dont dp them myself (cant stand the taste long enough), but after a long night of drink, coke and a load of shrooms at a house party my mates cousin became convinced a poster of The Notorious BIG, which had a mean look on his face, was threatening him, to the extent we had to take it down to prevent him attacking the wall :D

    And lastly on that magazine, "girls who do hash are losers"? Bollix. Girls who spend a few hundred per night on poxy coke are losing out. Christ I wish Id never spent a penny on the stuff, I take the exact amt as my mates and they think its the dogs nads, but...well.....its sh1te! Its great for what, 20 minutes? And even in that time, its more good than great. Cokes more overrated than Kanye West tbh. Idiots sniff it. Geniuses sell it. Bring back the days when yokes were plentiful, now there is a proper buzz (unfortunately its hard to regularly come across in the last 12 months)

    I would say im never touching that ****e again, but tbh its all peer pressure, Ill be drunk and a mate will say "nah seriously, this is animal"
    Ill be stupid and believe it, and lose money. Its further proof the Irish will buy any oul sh1te


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