Why do I find an anti-English thread on after hours on a weekly basis?

Mighty_Mouse · 10-10-2005 11:25AM

if the British government had decided in the wake of repetitive bombings of London by the IRA in the 1970's onwards, to drop bombs on Dublin?.

I suppose were lucky so?? Given the fact that ye are currently blowing the sh*t out of hospitals in Iraq for the actions of afghan terrorists in America.

The IRA targeted civilian targets in London

Did they? I thought the campaign was designed to hit economic and infrastructure targets. Where did the IRA target civilian targets say as the London bombings did?

yet some people over here think this is a great laugh, throwing fund raisers, singing along to IRA songs AND THEN have the cheek to come on television after events such as 9/11

I suppose republicans know how it feels to be targeted. By the way 9/11 was in America!! :rolleyes: Wrong country .... but fire ahead manipulating the facts. I would argue that the Irish have a much better relationship with America than yerselves. So off your high horse there sunshine.

The way the Irish government has lobbied the release of the IRA men in colombia

Did they? Examples please. I'd be very interested to see. Did our minister for justice not throw a fit and try to get them sent back? I think your anti-Irish sentiment is starting to become delusional! If there was brit citizens captured in Columbia you can bet your a*se they wouldn’t even come near a trial!! Also I don't think your in any position to be making judgements on what Irish governments endorse. Look at the current relationship of Britain with America for example. And what about those lovely British soldiers honourable treatment of Iraqi POW’s?

is this how you refer to someone calling for an end to racist threads and comments?,

more a case of the pot calling the kettle black here.

is it wrong for me to be upset by racism?

It's clearly more than that. Your borderline "hatred" of Irish people yourself IMO. A pity coming from Irish parents

If every nation you ever meet resents you maybe it's you and not the whole world that's at fault

bingo!

NO ONE on this forum was alive when the black and tans were doing their evil in this country

I think your getting confused between ancient history and more recent happenings. If you want really recent ---- Dublin bombings, bloody Sunday, and countless murders of innocent Irish people in the north. (All of which brits have refused to cooperate in finding out the truth for the families involved.)

Do you honestly think the Republican government would welcome Northen Ireland back into its bosom

FF the republican party, SF the republican party (most popular parties on the island). Also I believe Orange Order would have nothing to fear as you can bet your backside their culture and beliefs would be more respected in an united Ireland that catholic were under British rule.

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 11:53AM

Mighty_Mouse wrote:

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah more of the same boring IRA spin doctor bullshíte.

get a new line. the same old clichéd lines trotted out, the same old hypocritical rubbish spouted.

come on, now that the IRA have supposedely disarmed, maybe the spin doctors will have a chance to come up with some new lines that can keep us interested for a while?

as for actual arguments, pitiful. take the topic waaaaay off and twist it to what you want to say. go ahead, but at the end of the day, you still have an irrational hatred for a nation,a nd it just shows how small minded you are.

oh, you can say im unpatriotic, and how sad it is that a person of irish parentage could feel so strongly, but i dont hate ireland, not in the slightest. what i hate is people like you that would prefer to live in the past instead of looking forward. after all, youre a christian. didnt god say to love thy neighbour?
forgive his tresspasses?

very unchristianly i do believe.

or are you going to say its all political?

because it seems that people often get politics and religion mixed up, especially when it suits them, know what i mean?

but since you want to tal about recent history, why did the IRA murder innocent people in omagh?
why did they target the english prime minister in Brighton? Maggie thatcher was hardly in the army now, so id call that a civilian target myself.

as for the british treating the POW's in Iraq, what did happen to those two off duty RUC officers that were taken from a car by a mob. they were striped, tortured, beaten and murdered werent they?

you can say what you want of course, but lets face it, for every thing you hold against the british, pretty much the same thing can be said about ireland or the IRA.

its just a shame that ireland seems to have more than its number of small and narrow minded people like you who are trying to keep up this hatred.

however, on the bright side, it looks like these days, more and more people are coming to believe that our neighbours are no different. we are proud of ireland. we are proud of our past, and we have hopes for our future. we wont forget our past.
what we will do though, is build for the future, and your ideals and philosophies are not needed or wanted. your modes of thought are outdated. pepole are sick of killing, and hatred. sick of people like you that think there is some great battle to come, when there isnt.

Hagar · 10-10-2005 12:23PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

as for the british treating the POW's in Iraq, what did happen to those two off duty RUC officers that were taken from a car by a mob. they were striped, tortured, beaten and murdered werent they?

I thought they were two plain clothes British soldiers filming the bereaved family and mourners at a Republican funeral? They were essentially spies. The SAS support unit backed away and left them to die.

What did they expect if they were caught ?
Come on back to the house, there's enough ham sandwiches and tea for two more?

Sifo · 10-10-2005 12:48PM

OP i can see where your coming from, it's these same bigots that sh*te on about how those "f*cking nigerians are coming over her taken our jobs"... they have no clue what it is to be Irish...

However,
I'm very much against what the british government are doing at the moment i.e. standing side by side with America as they bomb the innocent...

Capiche

fjon · 10-10-2005 01:28PM

What would Dublin (for example) look like without money from Britain? Most the "nicer" old buildings we have were built by Irish people with British money. The GPO, Dail, Four Courts...
Ireland was a poor country, Britain was rich. We would be living in very different cities were it not for them.
I'm not trying to say we should be grateful for this (we built these things after all), but it's worth remembering. Left to our own devices, Dublin could today look like Tullamore or Castlebar.

kstanl · 10-10-2005 01:45PM

fjon wrote:

What would Dublin (for example) look like without money from Britain? Most the "nicer" old buildings we have were built by Irish people with British money. The GPO, Dail, Four Courts...
Ireland was a poor country, Britain was rich. We would be living in very different cities were it not for them.
I'm not trying to say we should be grateful for this (we built these things after all), but it's worth remembering. Left to our own devices, Dublin could today look like Tullamore or Castlebar.

Good point! Okay everyone - forget about the invasion and centuries of oppression, murder and rape - and just thank them for the damn buildings! :rolleyes:

In fairness, Britain did more damage than good to this country. Anyone who says differently is as ignorant as George Bush is a blubbering idiot.

At the end of the day though, I don't have any problem with modern England. Obvioulsy the Iraq war is a seriously contentious issue but apart from that, I think English people are great craic. Indeed I lived in London for 3 years and some of my best mates live in London, Liverpool, Leeds, etc.

To the OP - you're a bitter idiot with a persecution complex. It's got nothing to do with Irish people having an ingrained hatred of you because you're English, because that just isn't the case. Unless you've had a VERY bad run of luck. No, I suspect you've got some serious psychological issues that need addressing :rolleyes:

fjon · 10-10-2005 02:02PM

kstanl wrote:

Good point! Okay everyone - forget about the invasion and centuries of oppression, murder and rape - and just thank them for the damn buildings! :rolleyes:

Just adding fuel to the fire here, but...

The buildings left behind are more relevant nowadays than our great-great-great- grandparents (who we probably now nothing about).
I could understand if our parents had been directly affected, or even their parents. How long does one need to harbor resentment towards a country for mistakes they have made in the past? Should Germans still feel ashamed in 2080 for what happened over 100 years ago?

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 02:06PM

kstanl wrote:

In fairness, Britain did more damage than good to this country. Anyone who says differently is as ignorant as George Bush is a blubbering idiot. At the end of the day though, I don't have any problem with modern England. Obvioulsy the Iraq war is a seriously contentious issue but apart from that, I think English people are great craic. Indeed I lived in London for 3 years and some of my best mates live in London, Liverpool, Leeds, etc.

ah, so on your subjective view point. but you dont back anything up do you, so your points are worth nothing.

kstanl wrote:

To the OP - you're a bitter idiot with a persecution complex. It's got nothing to do with Irish people having an ingrained hatred of you because you're English, because that just isn't the case. Unless you've had a VERY bad run of luck. No, I suspect you've got some serious psychological issues that need addressing :rolleyes:

no. youre the bitter person.

lets add in some rolleyes just for effect, to show that i really mean what i say...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hagar wrote:

I thought they were two plain clothes British soldiers filming the bereaved family and mourners at a Republican funeral? They were essentially spies. The SAS support unit backed away and left them to die.

What did they expect if they were caught ?
Come on back to the house, there's enough ham sandwiches and tea for two more?

they werent spies. perhaps they were british soldiers, but im dont think so.
but even if they were, what does it matter.
2 men sitting in a car, get pulled out beaten tortured and murdered.

are you actually condoning it?
i think you actually are. what sort of person does that make you?

kstanl · 10-10-2005 02:18PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

ah, so on your subjective view point. but you dont back anything up do you, so your points are worth nothing.

What the hell are you saying? Are you saying that the British empire DIDN'T invade Ireland and oppress, murder and rape its people then?

WhiteWashMan wrote:

no. youre the bitter person.

lets add in some rolleyes just for effect, to show that i really mean what i say...

Hahaha. I'm the bitter person now, eh? Hahaha. How did you figure that one out? I'm not on here pissing and moaning... "Oooooooooh! The English used to give me a hard time when they thought I was Irish. Oooooooooh! The Irish give me a hard time now because I'm English. Booo hooo. Poor iccle me. I have a chip on my shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon. Booo hooo"

Seriously, just shut the hell up. You're not doing yourself any favours by coming onto an Irish message boards and making sweeping generalisations about Irish people. If you're getting a hard time it's probably because of who you are, not where you come from. I'd say they really miss you in England.

Ann Elk · 10-10-2005 02:22PM

I don't know too many people who hate "The English" per se, but I do know quite a few who dislike what the colonial empires stand for. And whilst I do indeed see that it's now 2005 and people need to get on with their lives, and not take out irrational feelings on their fellow man, surely people should be allowed to bitch and moan if they so feel. I believe that if you persue a past like the colonial empires, you should expect a certain amount of bitching - accept it and apologise like ermany and people will get sick of sticking it to you.

By the same rationale, given the extent of Irish involvement in the campaigns against native Americans and Canadians, we should be willing to cop sh*t from them, and apologise - I wonder why we don't?

billy the squid · 10-10-2005 02:36PM

kstanl wrote:

Hahaha. I'm the bitter person now, eh? Hahaha. How did you figure that one out?

I think the pissing and moaning about stuff that happened hundreds of years ago gave the impression that you were bitter.

I'm not on here pissing and moaning...

except for the rape and the pillageing and to oppression that happened hundreds of years ago.

"Oooooooooh! The English used to give me a hard time when they thought I was Irish. Oooooooooh! The Irish give me a hard time now because I'm English. Booo hooo. Poor iccle me. I have a chip on my shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon. Booo hooo"

You have a chip on your sholder because people who "may" be decended from the people who appressed the people you "may" be decended from, doesnt like being stereotyped. I'm sure if you were being called a stupid paddy or mick in another country, you would complain about it. I get the "stab city" jibe whenever I'm in Dublin, and it can get grating after a while.

Seriously, just shut the hell up. You're not doing yourself any favours by coming onto an Irish message boards and making sweeping generalisations about Irish people

The OP was commenting on two threads which appeared in the After hours forum entitled "why can't english say my name right" and "why do the english disrespect the Irish culture." should the starters of these thread be told to **** off the site because they are generalising, or should they be allowed to stay because its OK, irish people are allowed to generalise?

If you're getting a hard time it's probably because of who you are, not where you come from. I'd say they really miss you in England?

I think he is coming accross a lot better than you are.

EDIT : i forgot my :rolleyes:

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 02:39PM

kstanl wrote:

What the hell are you saying? Are you saying that the British empire DIDN'T invade Ireland and oppress, murder and rape its people then?

no, you are making sweeping generalisations, im asking you to back it up with proff.
but you dont seem to have anything.

but why would you do that, you might find out that you dont have a leg to stand on.

kstanl wrote:

Hahaha. I'm the bitter person now, eh? Hahaha. How did you figure that one out? I'm not on here pissing and moaning... "Oooooooooh! The English used to give me a hard time when they thought I was Irish. Oooooooooh! The Irish give me a hard time now because I'm English. Booo hooo. Poor iccle me. I have a chip on my shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon. Booo hooo"

?? ok, so a poster had a problem, but thats ok because of what now?
speaking of chips, you look like you have equal ones on each shoulders.
getting tired of carrying them about?

kstanl wrote:

Seriously, just shut the hell up. You're not doing yourself any favours by coming onto an Irish message boards and making sweeping generalisations about Irish people. If you're getting a hard time it's probably because of who you are, not where you come from. I'd say they really miss you in England.

you want me to shut up becuase you dont agree with me, and you have nothing more to say than repeating the same old rubbish ive always heard from IRA and IRA sympathisers. blah blah blah 850 years of oppression blah balh balh we hate the english blah blah blah.

also, make the assumption that im not irish isnt very bright of you. and what makes youthink im from england?

you see, youre wrong on every mark.

but you dont bother to adress any points that anyone makes, you make your own sweeping statement as if it werte fact, when it isnt, you refuse to back anything up, and tell people you dont agree with to shut up, and then you try and personalise it by making assupmtions about them.

that says a lot about you. in fact, it say enough for most people here to realise that you are just someone who knows nothing, except that you seem to like the sound of your own keyboard.
youre not even a very good troll.

annR · 10-10-2005 02:55PM

I can't believe I'm posting in this thread that should have died a long time ago. Look, you English people who are in Ireland, as was said before, people who shout English b*d at you are scumbags who abuse everyone around them not just you. You do have to get over that because we all do unfortunately. When they're not screaming at you they're screaming at someone else, or smoking on the bus, or throwing litter or whatever. How can you take them seriously.

However I don't doubt that there is anti English sentiment in this country. Note that I say sentiment not hatred. You can't avoid that. I've grown up in nice surroundings however it doesn't mean I didn't learn history in school, or listen to my da and grandmother going on about it (you should hear my Da!!!). I think it is wrong to forget how we won our independence. However I would never take that out on an English person today, it's completely stupid for reasons lots of people have mentioned.

Laguna you've mentioned about our history lessons indoctrinating us and asking >>if any reference to English history other than the occupation was actually taught in Irish schools <<. You're ok complaining about anti English feeling but don't sneer about the fact that we learnt our country's history in school and don't really remember much else as most of it is to do with England.

Basically I agree that is childish for people to hold a grudge against English people today. Likewise, English people should have the sensitivity to be slightly informed about their country's history with Ireland. I've met some who thought Ireland was part of the UK. They should also come and live in the present tense and know their geography a little better if not their history.

Oh yeah another thing which *really* bothers me is English media referring to famous Irish people as British. WHY DO THEY DO THAT. Is it a sort of daft Ireland's-part-of-the-UK thing. That kind of thing encourages anti English sentiment, they should stop it. John Connolly one of my favourite authors, born and rared in Dublin, referred to as British on the sleeve of his latest novel. GGrrrr.

kstanl · 10-10-2005 02:58PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

no, you are making sweeping generalisations, im asking you to back it up with proff.
but you dont seem to have anything.

Ah come on now. Are you actually denying that the English ever invaded Ireland? Are you denying that they ever oppressed the Irish people? You're denying commonly accepted facts and then asking me to proove them to you. Stop being an idiot. If you are denying that Britain ever invaded this island and oppressed its people, than just say so.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

but why would you do that, you might find out that you dont have a leg to stand on.

*sigh* Okay, I admit it. The British invasion of this country and subsequent murder, rape and oppression of its people are just a figment of my imagination.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

?? ok, so a poster had a problem, but thats ok because of what now?
speaking of chips, you look like you have equal ones on each shoulders.
getting tired of carrying them about?

I like what you did there. Take my argument and turn it around on me. Really clever. First I said you had a chip on his shoulder and now... you... are saying... I HAVE A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER!!!! BRILLIANT DEBATING SKILLS!!!!

You DO have a chip on your shoulder. You come on here generalising Irish people by saying they hate English people. You have a chip on your shoulder. End of story.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

you want me to shut up becuase you dont agree with me, and you have nothing more to say than repeating the same old rubbish ive always heard from IRA and IRA sympathisers.

Oh right. I'm an IRA sympathiser now. :rolleyes: Absolute pratt.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

blah blah blah 850 years of oppression blah balh balh we hate the english blah blah blah.

I don't remember saying I hate the English. I lived there for a few years. Some of my best friends are English. Go back and read the thread and stop talking s**t.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

also, make the assumption that im not irish isnt very bright of you. and what makes youthink im from england?

Don't talk to me about being bright when you can't even puntuate your sentences properly and your grammar is appalling. :rolleyes: I was referring to the OP, by the way. Not very bright, are you? :rolleyes:

WhiteWashMan wrote:

you see, youre wrong on every mark.

Such as what? Am I wrong about the oppression and slaughter of the Irish over the last 800 years? What, please tell me, am I wrong about?

WhiteWashMan wrote:

but you dont bother to adress any points that anyone makes, you make your own sweeping statement as if it werte fact, when it isnt, you refuse to back anything up, and tell people you dont agree with to shut up, and then you try and personalise it by making assupmtions about them.

Oh do be quiet. You making no sense at all now.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

that says a lot about you. in fact, it say enough for most people here to realise that you are just someone who knows nothing, except that you seem to like the sound of your own keyboard.
youre not even a very good troll.

What are you bloody well talking about???? Seriously???? Go back and read the thread properly and stop trolling.

Hagar · 10-10-2005 03:02PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

are you actually condoning it?
i think you actually are. what sort of person does that make you?

I didn't say I condoned it, I merely pointed out a flaw in your post and put the incident in the context in which it actually happened.

I also note the comment is directed at me personally, that is against Boards charter. Attack the post not the poster. Pretty poor form for a Mod on his own forum. But then if power can't be abused what use is it?

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 03:04PM

kstanl wrote:

Ah come on now. Are you actually denying that the English ever invaded Ireland? .

if you knew your history, youd know they were invite in by an irish king...

the rest of your post is just bullshít.

stop trolling on this thread. its a waste of everyones time.

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 03:05PM

Hagar wrote:

I didn't say I condoned it, I merely pointed out a flaw in your post and put the incident in the context in which it actually happened.

I also note the comment is directed at me personally, that is against Boards charter. Attack the post not the poster. Pretty poor form for a Mod on his own forum. But then if power can't be abused what use is it?

im not a mod on this forum.
and i see nothing aimed at you.

you can stop trolling as well.

StupidLikeAFox · 10-10-2005 03:10PM

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Mighty_Mouse · 10-10-2005 03:12PM

A couple of points before the rest:
- try not to put words in my mouth.I think your jumping to conclusions in terms of what I said and what you desperately wanted me to of said. Re-read my original answers. There was nothing hateful, or off the wall about them.
- I don't hate the British. I don't really care for them but as long as channels are open to deal with them in a political manner then I don't have to hate them.
-There are genuine reasons for Irish people to dislike what the english have done here over a prolonged period of time. Right up to present day. Its a little crazy and blinded to just ignore them.
- Im not defending the IRA. Im just pointing out a few things you delibertly ignore

:eek:

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah more of the same boring IRA spin doctor bullshíte.

Whooa! Slow down there tonto! Also I'd appreciate it if you don't attribute comments to me that are not mine. Wouldn't like to cause confusion and all that kinda thaaang!!

come on, now that the IRA have supposedely disarmed

according to 2 independant observers (priests!), the independant general who took 8 yrs out of his life to verify it and the IMC which draws info from Irish and British security forces

(which was set up outside the remit of the GFA and whoose findings are not accepted by republicans regardless of what they are)

take the topic waaaaay off and twist it to what you want to say

my sincere apologies :rolleyes: Would you do me the favour of pointing out where and let me learn from my mistakes. (pls include the line quote I was responding to when you do. "spanking you!")

what i hate is people like you that would prefer to live in the past instead of looking forward

personally I believe this Island has never been more stable. Is that not building towards the future?

after all, youre a christian. didnt god say to love thy neighbour?
forgive his tresspasses??

Actually I'm not religious. But come to thing of it ..... u do sound like a bit of a preacher man yourself?

because it seems that people often get politics and religion mixed up, especially when it suits them, know what i mean?

Personally I think any argument founded on religious differences is madness. Invasion, torture, murder, social inequality, lack of rights and oppression. Now there's a couple of reasons to have an argument with someone!

why did the IRA murder innocent people in omagh?

they didn't. (tip: keep google handy when your trying to make an argument!)

why did they target the english prime minister in Brighton? Maggie thatcher was hardly in the army now, so id call that a civilian target myself.

Would you call the prime minister of britain and non-political target!! :eek: :eek: What does bush need all those CIA dudes for at all!

people are coming to believe that our neighbours are no different. we are proud of ireland. we are proud of our past, and we have hopes for our future. we wont forget our past.

I feel exactly the same.I think most people do.

what we will do though, is build for the future, and your ideals and philosophies are not needed or wanted. your modes of thought are outdated. pepole are sick of killing, and hatred. sick of people like you that think there is some great battle to come, when there isnt

(sorry there is a lot of replies but it was a little bit of a tirade from yourself!! I wouldnt want you think I was avoiding "difficult" questions etc etc !!)
Very stirring stuff. You've been reading winston churchill speaches again haven't you!

Mighty_Mouse · 10-10-2005 03:15PM

it say enough for most people here to realise that you are just someone who knows nothing, except that you seem to like the sound of your own keyboard.

Ah! I love it!!

kstanl · 10-10-2005 03:15PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

if you knew your history, youd know they were invite in by an irish king...

As you would say *ahem* prove it!

WhiteWashMan wrote:

the rest of your post is just bullshít.

Really? So again you're denying the oppression, murder and rape of the Irish by the English over the last 800 years? As long as you're denying what everyone else knows to be true then, haha, I'm sorry... there's no point in having this discussion.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

stop trolling on this thread. its a waste of everyones time.

Oh right. I disagree with you and now I'm trolling? How convenient. What are you going to do next? Ban me from the forum? I can see you're a real pro moderator

Hagar · 10-10-2005 03:16PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

im not a mod on this forum.
and i see nothing aimed at you.

you can stop trolling as well.

Your a CMOD for Rec, does that cover this forum or not?

You did say "what sort of person does that make you?" That's personal.

I'm not a troll, my opinion is as valid as yours.
Everyone who disagrees with you is not a troll, nor are they necessarily wrong.

Please try to live up to my expectations of a CMOD.

WhiteWashMan · 10-10-2005 03:27PM

its funny that none of you will actually answer any of the questions i posed, except to go off on a tangent.

hagar, i have no idea what your expectations of a cmod are, but i would say htey are probably not aligned to those of boards.
although, what that has to do with anything i dont kow. just more padding to fill your posts with while not answering any questions i guess.

please live up to my expectations as an intelligent poster...

as for kstanl, i never said there wasnt any murder, rape, pillaging etc by the english. i was reffering to your inability to post up any facts about your generalisations about english people. it seems you still cant seem to get anything straight!

and im not going to ban you. another mod may, after all, as hagar says, attack the post, not the poster, but you have used personal abuise towards me, which was a bit silly. but no, im not going to ban you. you amuse me, why would i not want a good laugh in the afternoon with you about?

so, unless either of you actually want to address, i'll just assume that im right, and your opinions need to be re-examined.

Illegal Alien · 10-10-2005 03:29PM

billy the squid wrote:

You have a chip on your sholder because people who "may" be decended from the people who appressed the people you "may" be decended from, doesnt like being stereotyped. I'm sure if you were being called a stupid paddy or mick in another country, you would complain about it. I get the "stab city" jibe whenever I'm in Dublin, and it can get grating after a while.

Can I just say before it's locked...please dont put my qutoe in the middle of all those other ones without crediting them....people will get the wrong idea!

Also, my point was about his whinging, is that what he was whinging about is the "racisim", and he blames Irish History, the IRA, our government, rebel songs, our lack of participation in world war 2, our appreceation of history, jews, africans, you, me, the Hoff and bob the builder, because he got bullied for being english by the irish, yet he draws little reference to his earlier point that he was bullied by the english for being irish, so its a two way street, an absolute contradiction, and a troll.

Go back to psychology school. :cool:

Im done. Lock away...

MisterAnarchy · 10-10-2005 03:39PM

MICHAEL OWEN tipped England for World Cup glory and declared: Only Brazil are better than us. Sven Goran Eriksson’s men clinched their place at Germany 2006 after beating Austria 1-0.

Is it any wonder so many people do not like the English ?

robinph · 10-10-2005 03:42PM

MisterAnarchy wrote:

MICHAEL OWEN tipped England for World Cup glory and declared: Only Brazil are better than us. Sven Goran Eriksson’s men clinched their place at Germany 2006 after beating Austria 1-0.

Is it any wonder so many people do not like the English ?

So it's now because England made it to the world cup and Ireland probably won't?

Hagar · 10-10-2005 03:42PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

so, unless either of you actually want to address, i'll just assume that im right, and your opinions need to be re-examined.

I expect a CMOD to be fair and impartial.
I'm not padding out anything that's just your slant on things.

Now what was the question you wanted me to address?

kstanl · 10-10-2005 03:50PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

as for kstanl, i never said there wasnt any murder, rape, pillaging etc by the english.

Good, I'm glad we got that straight.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

i was reffering to your inability to post up any facts about your generalisations about english people.

Eh... and which generalisations would they be? Please reply to this question as I honestly don't remember making any generalisations about English people.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

and im not going to ban you. another mod may, after all, as hagar says, attack the post, not the poster, but you have used personal abuise towards me, which was a bit silly. but no, im not going to ban you. you amuse me, why would i not want a good laugh in the afternoon with you about?

I amuse YOU? Haha. You've failed to make any kind of coherent argument. You are incapable of interpreting any of my prior posts and, as such, go off on a tangent with every reply. You seem to be making assumptions about me and putting words in my mouth - which is pathetic (for example, you have claimed that I've made negative generalisations about English people despite the fact that I've told you that I have hundreds of English friends. Not only that but I haven't actually made any generalisations about English people. Again, I will ask you to point these out to me)

Do you have me confused with another poster? I think you do... either that or you are very confused yourself.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

so, unless either of you actually want to address, i'll just assume that im right, and your opinions need to be re-examined.

I've addressed everything you've asked me to address. My point on this issue, if you had even bothered to read my posts before going off on a rant, was that anti-English sentiment (beyond a bit of jovial rhetoric) is very hard to come by these days. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I am saying that you're persecution complex is pitiful and sad.

Giblet · 10-10-2005 04:10PM

Hagar wrote:

I expect a CMOD to be fair and impartial.

You seem to be confused. A CMOD should only be fair and impartial when actually doing his duties and not when arguing in a silly thread like this one. Also, what you expect doesn't matter, because you have no real vested in how things are done on boards.ie

Hagar · 10-10-2005 04:54PM

Giblet wrote:

What you expect doesn't matter, because you have no real vested in how things are done on boards.ie

Thank you for making that clear.

Why do I find an anti-English thread on after hours on a weekly basis?

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