Game/Compsoc ...

TomTom · 16-09-2005 01:07AM

Please add some details to the top thread on the forum, compsoc details and contact details. Similar to the one s4dd has done for netsoc.

s4dd · 16-09-2005 01:15AM

aye, and don't "mumbo jumbo" me or i'll rip off your nipples with my leatherman

Redrocket · 16-09-2005 10:38AM

i wasnt in my final year, i was just too busy with work!
hopefully some new games will keep things interesting.
those machines were brilliant running win2k, i dont why i always mention it, but they were!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-09-2005 05:26PM

We have a new site up and running. www.compsoc.itcarlow.tk

Further discussions can be made there. We will also keep in touch using boards.ie. Enjoy.

s4dd · 16-09-2005 06:03PM

Well isn't that's just a slap in the face...

We could have hosted compsoc.itcarlow.ie for ye. We could also have had it setup so that whenever someone types in "compsoc" to a browser in the college it would have went to that subdomain... free of ads and not on "http://s13.invisionfree.com/". Hell, we could have even hosted www.itc-compsoc.ie if ye'd have wanted...

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I mean, for feck sake.. we've been practically throwing free storage and webspace/forums/chatrooms to all the college societies, and the other computer related soc goes offsite for some crappy freebie adverted single forum board?! arg, "there is no emoticon to express what i am feeling"!

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We could have offered you user@compsoc.itcarlow.ie email addresses!!! WHY DIDN'T YOU COME TO US?!?!

The_B_Man · 16-09-2005 07:25PM

if ur looking for XBOX games, i have a dance mat and Dance UK if u want? all my other games are locked in a bunker 20 stories below sea level so im using backups so unless they're chipped my other games wont work on them.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-09-2005 10:21PM

Like it's a big deal s4dd. Maybe we don't want to rely on others. Maybe we don't trust you. Who would be the route admin anyway??? What would be the point in having those extra e-mails? Another waste of time and energy, they would never be used. But hey, thanks for your kind offer.

It doesn't matter where the site is hosted, some adds there, yea, but so what? You didn't offer me personally any space, oh and I hear you charge for it. Well the space that we have is more than enough, if we use half of it this year i'll be surprised.

Don't insult my efforts s4dd. I am not here to make mega brilliant addfree forums, but instead just a simple site that people can just pop in to see the latest news or discuss differant opinions on matters. Again s4dd, thanks but no thanks.

Anyway we are here to discuss compsoc and NOT netsoc, so please continue the bickering and whining there. Thank you.

*EDIT*

Thanks for the offer The-B-Man but I don't think it will be a great hit, as almost everyone will be after the FPS type games...

Redrocket · 17-09-2005 12:56PM

to be honest, i thought boards would have been the best place, a subforum of this one.

NOW, NO MORE B1TCHING!!
its not needed.

Ivan · 17-09-2005 12:57PM

Dulce Yummy Cedar wrote:

Like it's a big deal s4dd. Maybe we don't want to rely on others. Maybe we don't trust you. Who would be the route admin anyway??? What would be the point in having those extra e-mails? Another waste of time and energy, they would never be used. But hey, thanks for your kind offer.

It doesn't matter where the site is hosted, some adds there, yea, but so what? You didn't offer me personally any space, oh and I hear you charge for it. Well the space that we have is more than enough, if we use half of it this year i'll be surprised.

Don't insult my efforts s4dd. I am not here to make mega brilliant addfree forums, but instead just a simple site that people can just pop in to see the latest news or discuss differant opinions on matters. Again s4dd, thanks but no thanks.

Anyway we are here to discuss compsoc and NOT netsoc, so please continue the bickering and whining there. Thank you.

*EDIT*

Thanks for the offer The-B-Man but I don't think it will be a great hit, as almost everyone will be after the FPS type games...

IAMXAVIER, whomever you are... s4dd was just trying to point out that these things were available, obviously in his not too nice, super-sarcastic way. You can either take the offer or keep the crappy .tk forwarding to the crappy site with ads. In fairness, he is offering to do the work (with your creative input) as thats generally what he does. Personally, having seen what he can do and knowing whats involved in running compsoc, I'd suggest you shut up, take the offer and be damn glad of it.

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P.s. I dont know about anyone else but I really dont like when people just come along and take over compsoc, I mean so far its all been about who can shout the loudest 'I am President'. How's about for once, ye run some elections, there are plenty of computer students in compsoc many of whom would easily be able to write up a program for elections or failing that a hat and some slips of paper would work rather well.

Laguna · 17-09-2005 05:43PM

It's only a suggestion, but why don't you compsoc types come together to make a mod for Half Life 2 or another game?, you could take the whole college year over it if you felt like it. It'd be a deviation from playing CS source anyway.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 17-09-2005 08:00PM

Ivan, the team that we have now has been picked long before the end of last colleget year. Kurtis and Stephen picked me to continue running Compsoc. I had no Idea that I was going to be selected to be president. Kiith and Balkie were on the team last year. We have had some meetings over the summer and have discussed, quite a bit, the future of compsoc and how we can improve it for all...

Has there ever been elections for the compsoc team, me thinks not, well in the 3 years that I have been in compsoc I have never been asked to vote. This being my 4th year I think I know what needs doing. I have put alot of time into compsoc over the last 2 years, most of our members have only been there 2 years at the most, it would only be fair to let those that know what they're doing do it.

I'm not here to start arguments, I said thanks to s4dd already but the site isn't an esential tool needed to run compsoc. It was just something we added this year, I doubt it will even get off the ground (It would be nice though if it did...

)

Again I must point out to you that Compsoc is all about gaming, it has been that way for the last 3 years. So no programming projects this year

Most of our members don't have the knowledge (When I say members I mean the people we had last year, not 3 years ago). We have members from each and every department in the college. Lads, if our members are interested in the technical aspect of computers then I will gladly pass them on to you s4dd, and hopefully introduce them to netsoc. ok?

In all fairness we go to lectures all day, we look forward to compsoc at the end of the day, where we can relax and have som fun, why can't you just understand and leave it that way?

So can we clear this up and move on with our discussion? We have a meeting with the tech guys on monday and we will take it from there. Now does anyone have anything to discuss about compsoc and how we might improve it? ALL input is greatly appreciated...

Thank you.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 17-09-2005 08:09PM

Sorry for the double post.

To address Lagunas suggestion. There are some people in compsoc that have extreme interest in this type of work, I for one would love to have the knowledge and tools to do this too. I know one for sure that would like to take this on, Destructor. I could have a word with him and see what he says.

You must understand that people in compsoc don't attend to do mods or programming, but only to play games. This is what I will try to keep running and without much effort it will

. We won't only beconstantly playing CSS, that is garaunteed, we will have differant games to play and hope to facilitate everyones wants, not just the hardcore CSS players

Redrocket · 17-09-2005 08:56PM

compsoc used to be about "computers", what i mean by that is, we used to claim to be a computer society, a big cover up to play games, maybe this year its time to change the name to GAMESOC, the techies, network manager, security guards, and members all know what goes on. I think the fact that it is called compsoc attracts a lot of unnesessary confusion. Maybe its time for a name change.

We ( mainly me and xavier possibly balkie ) were chatting the other day and this year is hopefully going to be about rules! YES RULES! Not like the "No talking or mobile phones in the library" rule. Severe smackdown must be dealt out this year. Last year things turned into worse than circus like behaviour. It was decided that rules are the way to change this. Xavier is drawing up a set of rules, And they are there for 1 reason: The survival of compsoc.
Shouting kills compsoc.
Nonstop Counterstrike source kills compsoc.
LONER gangs creating their own mini server and locking it doesnt exactly kill but is to be avoided.
Games like starcraft or broodwars kills compsoc.
These are examples, im sure a more proper list will be finished soon.
And no need to argue or moan, we ( yes hopefully i will lend a hand ) are going to try things this way, why not? It has never been done before and what is there to lose? Hopefully with things ran in the right manner, the society will improve and become more successful

TomTom · 18-09-2005 02:02AM

Aye, from what i read compsoc is gone a long way from when it started. To be honest I think ye should take netsoc up on their offer of hosting and fourms. You get add free webspace which will be more acceptable to people and alos a free, clean and managed forum for compsoc discussion and announcments.

Redrocket · 18-09-2005 02:06PM

true on the hosting side, it makes sense to be able to just type "compsoc" into the browser in the college and get to the site. the new website was a very spur of the moment effort made, and maybe it should be reconsidered and moved to netsoc? anyhow, as xavier said, it might not even take off.

im still of the opinion there should be a name change to gamesoc, it removes the nerdy "lets go program" aspect of the society that laguna and s4dd suggested it should have.

Laguna · 18-09-2005 04:45PM

I didn't say lets go program, ****, I'm not even IN the society. It was a simple suggestion for something compsoc members could do if they wanted, something to add to their C.V you know?. It'd be a great showcase for landing you a job at a games developer if you had a BSc in Computing and then said "By the way, my Compsoc in college also produced this mod for XYZ game". The term "more strings to your bow"?. And besides the point, is playing a game like CS:Source repetitively not a tad more nerdy than actually making something/learning new skills?

Redrocket · 18-09-2005 05:08PM

mneh, im not arsed talking to you, you seek an arguement

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 18-09-2005 07:32PM

Ok, once again and for the last time I will repeat myself for ye... Compsoc is NOT about programming nor will it ever be. Netsoc is the place you should suggest this. We play games, and are not here to improve our CV's, we do enough of that during the day, remember?

Last year was the only time we played the same game over and over. I personnaly have no interest in playing CSS repeatedly, nor do most of our members.

The site stays where it is i'm afraid, if there wasn't so much bitchyness about it then I would have no problem letting netsoc, I mean the college host the site.

Now if anyone has some possitive input that we could use, please be my guest? Thank you...

wheres me jumpa · 18-09-2005 07:38PM

hi laguna!

to a point i agree with laguna on this one. many societies lack purpose as they have no real aim or purpose. this is not a swipe at the compsoc as i have no experience of it.

Dulce Yummy Cedar wrote:

Compsoc is NOT about programming nor will it ever be.

and that right there is the purpose of this soc, no more no less.

TomTom · 18-09-2005 10:01PM

Dulce Yummy Cedar wrote:

Now if anyone has some possitive input that we could use, please be my guest? Thank you...

You are getting lots of positive input here, espically about the site but you seem to be set on arguing with people, to take it on board. Stop getting worked up when someone talks about what they would like to see in compsoc. Some people would like to see it as a programing soc and they are entitled to their opinion.

s4dd · 18-09-2005 11:20PM

wow, did i miss alot cause i went home for the weekend...

Okay, first off, xavier:

I was getting worked up before cause we made a huge hum-haw last year about hosting free societiy pages. Personal accounts need to be paid for, society sites are hosted free. If you like, we would set up a CMS for ye, and/or a forum. You would have complete control of your sites content. You said something about issues of "trust"? yes, myself and another will have root accounts on the box... all i can do is assure you that i won't mess with content and/or private sections of the site.. up to what is neccessary to keep it running smoothly for you.

Moving along from this, if you don't want the free internal space/hosting that's okay i guess.. i only hope you're not doing it due to any personal attitude you may have towards me or bitbucket. also, you mentioned not wanting to join netsoc cause of "CV building"? buddy the absolute majority of stuff that's done is irc... chat chat chat chat. we offer other things cause some of the members are actually interested in learning stuff.And a "X:" drive for more space and the ability to access your G: and H: drives from outside college is a usefull service to anyone.

Also, if you read back i started this thread cause i wanted to know if compsoc was going to be expanding slightly into other areas... i joined compsoc when ivan was sitting at the clubs and socs day desk all those years ago. i asked him what it's about. he said "computers... we could show you how to build one, we could offer assitance and help.. sure whatever you want" now you said numerous times that it's "games" and nout more.. mayhaps a name change would be in order hmmm?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 19-09-2005 02:12AM

I agree with a change of names, but I doubt we would be "oficially" let run a gameing society. I did say a while back that I would help anyone, that interested, build a computer or at least explain to them how it is done. I have no problem with that, the point that I am trying to argue is that we focus more on gaming. I know compsoc started off (About 5 years ago???) as a proper computer society, but that changed? I wounder why... I don't think that a change of names is essential.

As for the site, I would rather scrap it now as it has caused so much unwanted trouble. I was never offered help from you before s4dd, hence why we built the site ourselves. The input we are getting is mainly about the site which doesn't hold alot of importance as of yet. I was in want of input which would directly affect compsoc and it's running. People seem to rather put the society down.

I have no grudge against you or bitbucket, I don't want your space as I have no need for it. It would only be wasted, but hey, if I happen to need it at a later date i'll ask the tech dept to extend it...

Oh, s4dd, what's a CMS?

I would like to hear peoples opinions on, what nights would suit best? Would you like to see some kind of compititions? What would your opinion be on playing against other colleges? Just some of the things that I would rather see discussed...

Can we please move away form the topic of "what is compsoc"? As it has been the same thing for thelast 3 years and I don't intend on changing it, I would get but a handfull of new members and lose many of our current members.

s4dd · 19-09-2005 02:43AM

CMS == Content Managment System.

Last year we were stuck with Tuesday and Thursday nights.. for use of lab 307. Personally, i'd prefare wedensday over thursday as it's kinda the "night out" day.

Other colleges are waiting to play ye... contacts over intersocs. i believe steve might have suggesting something along those lines with some of them before? DCU perhaps?

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nobody was trying to put the society down. well, i wasn't at least. i see a place for it. trying to bring about some change won't necessarily lose you members though..

also,

Dulce Yummy Cedar wrote:

I was never offered help from you before s4dd

i'm offering now.. you want it, you got it.

Kiith · 19-09-2005 09:39AM

ok, it looks like we will probably need to use the netsoc space, if its ok with s4dd, as all .tk sites are blocked by the college firewall. it would also be very useful to, as steven suggested, to be able to just type compsoc into the browsers, and be brought to the site. and i dont think there'd be an issue of having netsoc as root admins, as they are a trustable bunch...and if your not, well, lets just say your not gonna be able to sit well for a while after it

ok, personally i prefer the fact that compsoc is purely about games now, since after having (but not going) to 8hrs of computer classes a day, i quite enjoy it the way it is.

saying that, i'd definalty be interested in doing a mod for a game like HL2/BF2/Farcry. i've dabbled in modding in the past, but i know more about networking then modding (which really isnt much). but i'd still enjoy trying one, so let me know if anyone else is interested.

as for an online poker game, after doing something like that in programming last year, i'd pass on that, but i wouldnt have a problem with anyone else doing it.

games wise, i enjoy css alot, but a bit of variety would be nice. we are gonna try get a few games, like warcraft 3, call of duty....and others, which my tiny mind cant think of right now. if you wanna suggest a game to play, let us know and we'll test it on the computers, or try it yourself, and we'll give it a go if it works.

as for the techies, as steven again suggested, i'll ask them for a projector for the compsoc stand this year, since it would be useful for getting new members. also, what do you all think about getting personalised accounts? rather then having just the generic logon? i know this would be a problem for people who just wanna play every now and again, but it would (hopefully) increase the official members, and a €2 a head, we could probably get and extra joypad or 7 for the x-box/ps2/360, and get some decent multiplayer games going.

now my tiny mind is sore from all this writing, so i shall go now.

Redrocket · 19-09-2005 09:40AM

he wants it, it will help tie compsoc/netsoc relations

Redrocket · 19-09-2005 09:42AM

personalised accounts, would hopefully cut down on the bull**** that went on with on with the generic compsoc account ( ie people messing on the generic account )

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 19-09-2005 01:27PM

Cool, so can I take a look at a site s4dd? I would like to transfer the data I have on it now to the new site. Just a bit of copy paste. Could you take a look at the current site and use the same headings, or if you have a better suggestion, be my guest.

The Projector is a possability, but again must be discussed with the techies. Would the barrow centre proove too light for it to work proparly? I hope not... Well this year carlow has had the most students EVER enlisted, over 1000. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure there will be plenty of hardcore gamers in there that will fill up our society no problem.

I don't think Warcraft III will work as it is an RTS... I think Call of Duty has been tried before without any luck, but hey we can try again... Anyone has any games that they want to try then pass them on to us, we will put them onto DVD's and try them out on the pc's...

There was something mentioned about playing other colleges, I was talking to steve the other day and this proved too difficult. Certain ports had to be opened by the techies but I don't think they would do it. The other option is traveling, we will be supplied with a free bus and is very doable, but will we have the interest to travel to another college? It would also be alot easier to do in person, less confusion and all that.

We could work something out on the wednesday night issue, as we both want it. Do you have full attendance? Like 20+ members? At the start it may be hard but we could share the room on a wednesday night? Half and half? It's just an Idea but i'm sure we could work aomething out s4dd... Would the other rooms not facilitate ye? Like 310, they have pretty decent computers.

Again, thanks everyone for the suggestions it's much appreciated.

Redrocket · 19-09-2005 01:42PM

i think to get another room would be more appropriate
would alternate nights not be a better idea?
members who are both in compsoc and netsoc would have decide over which to do....

it seems that all we can do at the moment is talk and argue and try to arrange things,
i think there has been enough talk to get the society back up and running, over the next few weeks is when the tweaking of things should take place, like nights to run, games to play, things to do, website, etc

s4dd · 19-09-2005 02:13PM

okay, a face to face meeting would be in order i guess... our first committee meeting is going to be this evening.

you compsoceres round up your gang and head to the third floor of the lrc at about 5.30? we'll be over by the windows we could have a chat then... if that's not suitable, you pick a time.

Kiith · 19-09-2005 03:15PM

im sure some of the lads could be there at 5:30pm, but myself and xavier are working at six, so its not the best time for it. but then again, you can talk stuff over, then steven/monk/balkie can fill us in later.

some of us are meeting in 45mins (4:00pm) on the third floor, just to chat about a few things, so if your free, we can talk then.

edit

but we can have a meeting at some stage tomorrow. most of us are free after college tomorrow, so do you wanna meet then??

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