I Saw A Cheater!

Bright Smile · 10-06-2005 11:44pm #1

I know its none of my business, but she had stuff written all down the palm of her hand and on the cuff of her shirt- its scummy that no matter how bad things are getting the rest of us just lump it and do our best inside....didnt say anything but still...wat d'ye think?

Chalk · 10-06-2005 11:46pm

each to their own.
it doesnt affect you in all honesty, so dont let it.

so you think that a few scribbled notes on your hand is better than actualy studying for the exams?

i doubt shes not going to be taking your course place in all honesty

Ro: maaan! · 10-06-2005 11:46pm

Love the sig, Bright Smile.

sock.rocker* · 10-06-2005 11:48pm

**** it.. loads of people cheatin in my school. they dont escort people to the toilets so ya can do whatever..

i havnt cheated but so many people do it all the time

*Angel* · 10-06-2005 11:50pm

It is annoying seeing cheaters when you know you've done the study and all, but tbh I couldn't be bothered with them.

At least when we get a good grade we know it's because we earned it/deserved it, and that matters to me.

sock.rocker* · 10-06-2005 11:51pm

Bright Smile wrote:

I know its none of my business, but she had stuff written all down the palm of her hand and on the cuff of her shirt- its scummy that no matter how bad things are getting the rest of us just lump it and do our best inside....didnt say anything but still...wat d'ye think?

if you had said anything.. that would be the most unsound thing in the world. ****in up someones life..

sixdraw · 10-06-2005 11:54pm

*Angel* wrote:

At least when we get a good grade we know it's because we earned it/deserved it, and that matters to me.

Exactly f**k em.Its not worth becoming a very hated person for someone who isn't gonna gain **** anyways.They'll be found out eventually, in life

astec123 · 10-06-2005 11:54pm

What does it matter to you, if you can manage not to cheat at least you know you did it properly, if they need to cheat to get the grades that mentality will remain through their life so screw em in 10 years when they get their just deserts.

sock.rocker* · 10-06-2005 11:56pm

what just deserts would that be? lol

honestly, they're probably over the moon with themselves.. i kno i prob wud

Bright Smile · 10-06-2005 11:58pm

i never would, as i say its none of my business, was just askin opinions on the whole subject really...i know ppl who really worked their asses off all yr cuz they werent that good at irish just to do honours, and although they got on fine, it killed me that yer wan swanned in with loadsa stair notes all over her hand! so tireddddd.....thanks Ro...maaaan!

lestats_bride · 10-06-2005 11:58pm

Yeah theres loads at it in my school too. And its blatantly obvious too. But ah sure, it's there thing if they can do it and not care!

astec123 · 10-06-2005 11:59pm

Once a cheater always a cheater sort of thing, when the come to needing to learn a new skill they will be hopeless. Lots of things could happen that will give them the return for cheating.

sock.rocker* · 11-06-2005 12:00am

yeah, really obvious.. same people go for 10 min toilet breaks every exam

it wud be so handy for the business short questions

Bright Smile · 11-06-2005 12:00am

like the examiner-people guys are so lacksidasical bout the whole thing too in terms of checking ppl out! im not talking cavity search but she was blatently cheating....

John Player · 11-06-2005 12:00am

i etched the formulas into the cover of my calculator with my compas before hand hehe - good tip - this was back in 2001

mp3guy · 11-06-2005 12:00am

Probably got caught. And if you said anything, the examiner could say "why were you looking towards them in the exam in the first place" :rolleyes:

luckat · 11-06-2005 12:01am

I have to say that I can't understand why you can't bring reference books, stories, etc into exams. After all, if you haven't done the work, they're not going to help a lot! Whereas they're a useful reference for those who have.

Let's see, this was the Irish exam? She probably had her whole vocabulary in Irish written on her palm, God love her!

(Mind you, we're getting into larger areas here. It seems to me that it's really wrong to have an exam of such importance all in one week. What if you have your period, get the flu or have hay fever - or all three together, as happened to someone I know. I can't understand why there can't be an exam per month every month for the two years of the Leaving main course, with a chance to repeat as well. The whole thing seems so ritualistic and fetishistic and cruel, the way it is now.)

sock.rocker* · 11-06-2005 12:02am

astec123 wrote:

Once a cheater always a cheater sort of thing, when the come to needing to learn a new skill they will be hopeless. Lots of things could happen that will give them the return for cheating.

life isnt about academics.. someone who may be brilliant at something might just be held back my school. ya cant say someone who is bad at school is bad at everythin

whats that statistic? more millionaires in england without gcse's that with..

*Angel* · 11-06-2005 12:03am

It's so risky though, if you get caught, you won't have done your leaving, and it really helps to having a leaving cert.

sock.rocker* · 11-06-2005 12:09am

well in my school, theres no risk..

i got out of ordinary early and was talkin to a guy in higher who actually needed to goto the toilet for a while.. its too easy

bounty_hunter · 11-06-2005 12:11am

Bright Smile wrote:

like the examiner-people guys are so lacksidasical bout the whole thing too in terms of checking ppl out! im not talking cavity search but she was blatently cheating....

Two of the supervisors in the centres beside me fell asleep yesterday :rolleyes:
It's a load of ****e tbh.

Beau · 11-06-2005 12:14am

I disagree. I cheated a little for the Irish exam. I had alot of what I was going to say in my letter learned off but i just could`nt remember a sentance or two no matter how much I worked at it. So I just had a little piece of paper in my pocket and when I went to the toilet and looked at it again.

I don`t think its something that`ll catch me out later in life in all fairness. I want to do Finance and I`m getting A`s in both Accounting and Economics because I`ve worked very hard at it and its fairly likely that I`ll get the points. Now if I did`nt get into college because of the min req of Irish I`d be bulling (Yes I`m doing pass maths, I`m that bad! hehe, but I got on grand in the test, it was fairy handy)

Lets face it, if you have to cheat, its only to get that D3, because the amount of material you can have on your arm or whatever is limited. You can`t get a B or an A from cheating in an exam. Well not in a way I have figured out.

sixdraw · 11-06-2005 12:19am

the supervisor in my centre is pretty strict.she came down checkin my bottle of water for any extra "ingredients" during maths but the guy next door couldn't give a sh*t. I was talking to an honours student aswell today in the toilets after i'd finished and he was on a break

ed6hellsfresh · 11-06-2005 12:20am

there is nothin wrong with cheatin now if you get away with it. truck all this crap about morals, i'm pretty sure if a little bit of cheatin has got you to your 1st choice you won't be cryin with guilt every night. just because you had the balls to do it you shouldn't be hated on.

also prob shouoldn't be sayin you've got a's when you havent done the examz yet

i believe the phrase 'dont count your eggs before they've hatched' comes from somewhere

*Angel* · 11-06-2005 12:20am

sock.rocker* wrote:

well in my school, theres no risk..

i got out of ordinary early and was talkin to a guy in higher who actually needed to goto the toilet for a while.. its too easy

Well yeah I was talking about inside the hall with physical cheating notes, but yeah sure I was talking to others outside during a break.

Beau · 11-06-2005 12:24am

ed6hellsfresh wrote:

also prob shouoldn't be sayin you've got a's when you havent done the examz yet

Yeh your dead right. I meant in class all along through the 2 years.

Creamy Goodness · 11-06-2005 12:27am

if you are a lad they can't stop you cheating in biology, that's if the male reproductive system comes up.

go to bathroom look at your lad and then go back and draw it.

*Angel* · 11-06-2005 12:32am

Lol :d

Brian017 · 11-06-2005 12:33am

Not unless you cut it open.

Chalk · 11-06-2005 12:36am

Brian017 wrote:

Not unless you cut it open.

whatever your into, eh?

Gone West · 11-06-2005 12:41am

my examiners took our calculator covers, nasty bastards. I'd planned to sneak a few physics formulae in there.

Cianan2 · 11-06-2005 12:54am

I heard you get,like, E50 if you report someone for cheatin. Easy money!

*Angel* · 11-06-2005 12:58am

I doubt it, and not worth it imo.

Beau · 11-06-2005 1:02am

No would`nt be worth it at all.

Da_IRISH_ONE4U · 11-06-2005 1:12am

My opinion - Do it but don't get caught!

Murv · 11-06-2005 10:01am

rumour has it some guy in my year got caught cheating, but all the examiner did was take his notes and phone off him...

Sully · 11-06-2005 10:07am

In my school, the guy outside the door told me he followed a lad to the loo and your man started making phone calls and he had to go in and stop him lol. Other tales were that they were up and down to the toilet with the same crowd every few mins. The way the rooms were divided up in my school is that the all pass/foundation (normaly most troublesom) crowd where in one room and the good respectable A students in the other. Twas funny.

You could joke about with the examiners which was class, my phone went of and he just laughed. Another one asked me to sign to confirm the papers were secured and I was joking around making sure they were and then asked to see the papers before others. She just laughed.

Oakbark · 11-06-2005 11:09am

I've thought about it, and even if i could stop time and get a brilliant grade, the guilt of cheating wouldn't be worth it. At least I know that every grade i got was through hard work and study throughout the two years, as opposed to that cheater who'll probably feel bad knowing part of his/her grade was achieved through cheating. I know its a points race but still. . .

bigmouth · 11-06-2005 11:24am

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

segadreamcast · 11-06-2005 11:34am

bigmouth wrote:

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

Due to the tension involved in doing such a thing - I'd say this is right.

Furthermore, cheating may even hinder you in a sense throughout the exam - as part of your mind will, whether you like it or not, thinking of how/when you're going to cheat and how to avoid being caught... you're only hurting yourself in the long run.

People are going to do it of course and, frankly, I wouldn't like the social stigma of being the bastard who ratted them out. Of course, if it's obvious cheating and you really hate the person, you could always strategically cough or knock your bottle of water onto the floor to gain the attention of the examiner - thus 'accidentally' getting them caught, you know?

randomfella · 11-06-2005 12:14pm

Survival of the fittest type of mentality is in place during the leaving.

I admire the risk-taking aspect but i don't respect the laziness that most cheaters show in work through the years.

I do have to say to a certain degree no matter how hard i've worked in subjects it really comes down to how u do on the day. Its how much u regurgitate and ur ability to do it, what comes up on the papers.

I've never been so much against this old-fashioned system of exams as i am now. Really its about time it was reformatted.

EdgarAllenPoo · 11-06-2005 12:33pm

sock.rocker* wrote:

yeah, really obvious.. same people go for 10 min toilet breaks every exam

it wud be so handy for the business short questions

I've gone to the toilet twice during the exams. Once during the first english paper and again during the first irish paper, each time the examiner wrote on the paper that I was gone for roughly ten minutes. Does that naturally mean that I cheated. Bollocks, I would be to afraid of getting caught to cheat.

"Cheating is only cheating if you get caught."

I always liked that phrase.

Con9903 · 11-06-2005 1:31pm

Anybody have stories where cheaters were caught? And what happened to them?

EdgarAllenPoo · 11-06-2005 1:41pm

Con9903 wrote:

Anybody have stories where cheaters were caught? And what happened to them?

One year when I did the exam attendant thing I caught someone, the idiot was reading his notes on the bog with the door open, I didn't do anything about it though because that would be lousy.

passive · 11-06-2005 2:45pm

Listen up mr Rock.. if I hear of any incidents concerning Graeme, history notes on his hairless legs and a fallen bottle of Noels Water(tm) that draws the examiners attention there'll be organised beatings and don't you forget it :P.

...though it is graeme.

segadreamcast · 11-06-2005 2:50pm

passive wrote:

Listen up mr Rock.. if I hear of any incidents concerning Graeme, history notes on his hairless legs and a fallen bottle of Noels Water(tm) that draws the examiners attention there'll be organised beatings and don't you forget it :P.

...though it is graeme.

Makes me wanna drop my water all the more man

.

P.S. Never, ever put the image of Graeme's legs into my mind. Ever. I'm not that gay.

JackKelly · 11-06-2005 3:41pm

lol.

Tbh. You'd take 600 points if someone offered it to you, so why not cheat? Either way, you are getting points without learning. That said, i wouldn't cheat myself! I could though, i know the girl who brings us to the toilet!

As far as "telling on them".lmao. Wouldn't do that.They have a hard enough time hiding from the examiner to have some go "miss miss, i see him/her cheating"

Africa · 11-06-2005 4:20pm

lol we escort ourselves to the bog!Grand! Although i aint cheating, i could cause i know the fella who is on our door that makes a note of all people that leave early and go to the toilet. But whats the point? sure i could learn it in the same time as is needed to cheat...

nobodythere · 11-06-2005 8:15pm

(Mind you, we're getting into larger areas here. It seems to me that it's really wrong to have an exam of such importance all in one week. What if you have your period, get the flu or have hay fever - or all three together, as happened to someone I know. I can't understand why there can't be an exam per month every month for the two years of the Leaving main course, with a chance to repeat as well. The whole thing seems so ritualistic and fetishistic and cruel, the way it is now.)

Because the idea of the leaving cert isn't to teach you things that will have application in your life... it's to test you under a stressful and intense environment. ****bags, can't believe I worried so much about an exam so unimportant to me, I feel embarrassed that I fell for the hype

nobodythere · 11-06-2005 8:18pm

bigmouth wrote:

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

As a regular cheater in unimportant school exams I can vouch for that, by the time you finish writing it you know it all in your head!

nobodythere · 11-06-2005 8:25pm

It's a little **** that they're potentially upping the points for a course by cheating though... I think the social stigma should be on the cheater cos it's pissy, I've never worked so hard in my life for some stupid exam and it's not nice when someone just comes in and works from their hairy legs/arms/calculator/hidden paper after all the time you've spent cramming it into your head.

I know it's unlikely that it'll up a course by more than 5/10 points but it could still mean ****ing over a year or someone's life just because you cheated and they didn't.

I wish there wasn't this survival of the fittest mentality, if we all had just worked with each other from the start of the year, helped with notes and problems instead of stepping on top of each other....

I Saw A Cheater!

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