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boards.ie - angry old men? (re underagers thread)

  • 29-05-2005 03:20PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    While it is indeed related to the enormous underagers thread, i felt this was a slightly different slant on the issue that deserved its own thread

    So here you have it- are most boards members a bunch of 96 year old Taliban members trapped in 20 year old bodys?

    What struck me was that unless you were some sort of quiet anti social outcast, as a teenager you were doing and wanting to do what the girl in that thread posted. In all fairness, most of us probably had dads who would buy us a pint when we were 15 or 16 down the pub. Ive been goin to nightclubs since I was 16, as has pretty much anyone who lived a little as a youngster. Im 18 now, and as long as they arent **** I have no problem seein 17 or 16 year olds in the same spot as me. You may say "gwan to the youth discos" but the fact is few 16 year olds want to go to them. They were heaven on earth 13-16 but by then they are tired of them, theyre embarrased to be still going to them.

    Fair enough, if theyre fallin about after 3 ****in smirnoff ices then yeah, theyre actin the fool, maybe drinkin isnt meant for them, at least not yet, but in all honesty are most of them causin anyone any hassle? If you dont like seein underagers go to clubs where its very hard for them to gain access- face it, places that are fairly relaxed on the underagers are normally cheesefests anyway, manned by wanky DJs playing Girls Aloud and the Scissor Sisters all night long. The type that would give you a "ya wha?" look if you asked them to stick on the Biggie Smalls Lean Back remix.

    So, basically my question is do you think yiv turned into an oul hypocrite? Ill certainly be a hypocrite with my own kids (especially daughters- i wouldnt want them turning out like a great deal of the birds ive been with tbh), running a do as i say, not what i did policy when I hear the "but dad i was talkin to your mates, you were gettin pissed and doin drugs when you were younger than me. And granny told me that when she was in England for a week you completely wrecked the house in a party" excuse. But thats just me- a flawed, complex individual :)

    Then again, i was an old man when i was underage. Referring to one nightclub i said "nah fcuk it, its full of kids" and me 17 (in fairness, id seen a pile of 14 and 15 year olds i knew in it, i was like fcuk this!)
    But still, at least im not as extreme as those in that thread. If you are around 16 and can make it in and you are not going to cause me trouble, fair play tbh


    Personally i find drunken fat birds in their 40s out on a work do puttin the handbags in the middle of the dancefloor, singin Amarillo and grabbin me arse as I pass more of a problem......BAN THE OVER 30S FROM OUR CLUBS! Ya dont want the place your in to be a youth disco, but not Jurassic ****in Park either


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    In all fairness, most of us probably had dads who would buy us a pint when we were 15 or 16 down the pub.
    Yeah, going out on the piss with friends and having a parent buy a drink is exactly the same thing.
    Tha Gopher wrote:
    if theyre fallin about after 3 ****in smirnoff ices then yeah, theyre actin the fool, maybe drinkin isnt meant for them
    So you condone underage drinking as long as they can hold it? Don't be stupid...
    Tha Gopher wrote:
    basically my question is do you think yiv turned into an oul hypocrite?
    No.
    Tha Gopher wrote:
    Ill certainly be a hypocrite with my own kids
    So why defend other peoples kids? Sounds like you're a hypocrite already.


  • Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭ Ezra Mushy Walnut


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    Referring to one nightclub i said "nah fcuk it, its full of kids" and me 17 (in fairness, id seen a pile of 14 and 15 year olds i knew in it, i was like fcuk this!)

    this is exactly where you've ruined your own argument. This is the problem people are talkin about, underagers (like myself) in clubs and Pubs. Now when you at 17, decided not to go into that club "full of kids", thnik of the hassle that causes for people 4 years older than you in that situation, all of a sudden pubs and Clubs are overrun and then there's no adults left cause they don't wanna get arrested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Only Human


    On word: Responsibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    I hate seeing kids in night clubs, They should offer something else for them to do and leave nightclubs for adults. It really pisses me off when there are a bunch of kids falling about the place while your trying to have a drink with your friends, I guy in my town got convicted of statutory rape after hooking up with a 14 year old girl that he met in a nightclub, ffs he shouldn't have to ask for I.D. when he meets a girl. Let them wait until there older.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Quiet, kiddo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    No. First time I got drunk was knacker-drinking aged 16. First time I went out in a pub was my 17th birthday. I got hammered on 4 pints. I was with people older than myself though - and if I hadn't been I wouldn't have trusted myself.

    I have no problem with underage drinking - but I think that people in clubs and pubs should be at least 16. Because 15 year olds are liable to get drunk easily, get horny and then they have consenting sex with someone (probably drunk, high, blind or a mixture of the three) who presumes they're with someone of legal age. And it's rape.

    I think we all agree, rape is bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Shyster


    all i can say is, roll on 21........wont find underagers in those clubs i hope. Or maybe then we'll be hunting the 18 year olds out....oh its all a vicious circle!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    You're clearly from some bog town. In Dublin city, and in the outskirts/suburbs, there are a few select places where young folk can get in. ie. 15-16year olds.
    Most teenagers around here start knacker drinking, then move up to the select pubs/clubs they can get into, a good portion of the girls of course have the ability (because older boyfriends greater maturity etc...) to be one step ahead of the boys and start getting into the proper places a bit earlier, but the lads in general have to be 17-18 before they start getting into proper places. And will probably find from 18-21 will need ID at the door.

    Now, having not really bothered reading the thread your moaning about, I don't really know what my point is. But basically there's a difference between having yung uns doin their own thing in their own place and not giving a damn(ie, nobody cares if ya start drinking when yar 12 if ya dont do it in our faces or make people put up with ya), than when the club/place of your choice suddenly gets overcrowded by the 16-17year olds.

    Your only 18 yourself, so I'd say when your 21-25, after having been in the same age-bracket place you go to for 6-7 years yall get a bit bored and start going somewhere else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭OLDYELLAR


    Personally i find drunken fat birds in their 40s out on a work do puttin the handbags in the middle of the dancefloor, singin Amarillo and grabbin me arse as I pass more of a problem......BAN THE OVER 30S FROM OUR CLUBS! Ya dont want the place your in to be a youth disco, but not Jurassic ****in Park either[/QUOTE]

    LOL :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭Dizzyblabla


    As long as they don't do the screaming thing... you know, the jumping up and down and hugging, "oh my god I can't believe you got in" screaches, and the forgetting that they are supposed to be at least pretending that they are older and yet still acting like 12 year olds....then I don't mind soo much, but that's the problem, they rarely don't try and grow up when around adults.

    I know when I was younger I tried to act cool, so I could get into clubs, being 17 where the people we thought were really old were 20!! I did forget how you almost "graduate" up to the next level of club, but the problem is, it's running out now, there's alot of students going to the clubs that we wouldn't have dreamed of going to as students, which starts the cycle all over again.. (as long as they don't do the screaming thing??!) - what is it about that anyway?? I'll never understand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭Dizzyblabla


    OLDYELLAR wrote:
    Personally i find drunken fat birds in their 40s out on a work do puttin the handbags in the middle of the dancefloor, singin Amarillo and grabbin me arse as I pass more of a problem......BAN THE OVER 30S FROM OUR CLUBS! Ya dont want the place your in to be a youth disco, but not Jurassic ****in Park either

    LOL :D[/QUOTE]


    Brilliant!! sooo sooo true (I'm sure I won't think that when I'm 30 and wailing like a mad thing when I here good ol' boyzone being played by some DJ though!)

    but for the next few years, ban the 30+'s!! tee hee!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Shyster


    by "that screaming thing" do you mean, when a (crappy)song comes on, they all start screaming and run on to the dancefloor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Fionn


    sorry.....

    but where can i find drunken fat birds in their 40s out on a work do puttin the handbags in the middle of the dancefloor, singin Amarillo and grabbin

    whatever!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    OLDYELLAR wrote:
    grabbin me arse as I pass more of a problem


    some would pay for that kind of action

    tell me where these goddesses hang out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭OLDYELLAR


    LOL :D


    Brilliant!! sooo sooo true (I'm sure I won't think that when I'm 30 and wailing like a mad thing when I here good ol' boyzone being played by some DJ though!)

    but for the next few years, ban the 30+'s!! tee hee!

    I think I quoted that arseways out of the original posters thread

    Oh christ if im ever seen dancing to boyzone and having a handbag in the middle of the floor , Kill me!
    Armarillo , now thats a different kettle of fish altogether though :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭katiegordon


    I think everyone forgets what its like to be young.
    Think back to what you did or at least WANTED to do when you are 16. And even if it wasnt going to a club im sure it was equally "rebellious" for that time. and remember times are changing ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    when i was 16 i was thinking of getting a good leaving cert


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    when i was 16 i was too busy training for my SCT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭katiegordon


    sct??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Senior Cup Team....rugby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭David19


    I think everyone forgets what its like to be young.
    Think back to what you did or at least WANTED to do when you are 16. And even if it wasnt going to a club im sure it was equally "rebellious" for that time. and remember times are changing ;)

    There's nothing wrong with WANTING to go to a club at that age. Most of us didn't go to one though. We waited until we were 17 or 18.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    I think everyone forgets what its like to be young.
    Think back to what you did or at least WANTED to do when you are 16. And even if it wasnt going to a club im sure it was equally "rebellious" for that time. and remember times are changing ;)

    Tell me this. when you were younger, lets say 13 or 14, and at a family gathering or party. lets say to celebrate a family members communion or wedding or something like that. when you go in you expect to be with your parents and uncles and aunts and whatever. but then you told to go to the kiddies table where there are a gang of kids aged like 6 or 7 years old. It isnt very pleasant is it.

    well its like that with over 18s and nightclubs. they go out expecting to meet people their own age, and it isnt very nice to discover that your surrounded by underagers..


  • Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭ Ezra Mushy Walnut


    I think everyone forgets what its like to be young.
    Think back to what you did or at least WANTED to do when you are 16. And even if it wasnt going to a club im sure it was equally "rebellious" for that time. and remember times are changing ;)

    I AM 16, and i can see that every argument made against the original poster is correct. Just accept it, they're right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,361 ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    BAN THE OVER 30S FROM OUR CLUBS! Ya dont want the place your in to be a youth disco, but not Jurassic ****in Park either

    bite my shiney metal ass you whippersnapper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    remember times are changing ;)

    But the law isint.


    "OMFG!!!!!111one OWn3D!!!111oneonetwo"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭katiegordon


    David19 wrote:
    There's nothing wrong with WANTING to go to a club at that age. Most of us didn't go to one though. We waited until we were 17 or 18.
    So u wanted to????Well dont begrudge me den just because i hav d oppurtunity to................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    So u wanted to????Well dont begrudge me den just because i hav d oppurtunity to................

    Please speak English :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭katiegordon


    Wat part dont u understand if ur really dat stupid den ill spell it out 4 u?????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Wat part dont u understand if ur really dat stupid den ill spell it out 4 u?????

    Oh, the hilarity.

    katiegordon, in case you didn't understand what I'm trying to say, use real English words to convey your message as text speak isn't a real language. "dat", "den" and "4" are not words. Your message will come across better that way, and people won't automatically assume you're an idiot. I'm going to presume you're a smart girl, and that you don't want people to think you're an idiot.


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