New Transfer Rumours and Signings

PHB · 28-05-2005 06:17PM

Garcia is the reason that Liverpool got to the CL final

Slash/ED · 28-05-2005 07:08PM

And a big part of the reason they only finished fifth. I think he'll be alot better next season though, or at least alot less inconsistent.

Mark · 28-05-2005 07:10PM

Van der Vaart moves to Hamburg for £4.5m

Odd, had heard no rumours about him, despite his profile having gone down recently he's worth keeping track of. ITV seem to be the only ones deigning to mention it.

Bannor · 28-05-2005 09:18PM

VDV had been offered to Liverpool, but after consulting with Ronald Koeman, Benitez decided that the player didn't have the mental strength to play for the club. Koeman revealed that Van der Vaart lost his form when opposition supporters start chanting obscenities about his tv personality girlfriend, being moved from central midfield to the wing didn't help matters and the player just imploded - hence the reason he's heading for the back water that is Hamburg and not getting his alleged dream move to Liverpool/Barcelona.

Mitch Connor · 28-05-2005 09:34PM

disappointing bout van der Vaart - always a player i wanted to see at Man United. i have a feeling this is getting to be a very disappointing summer for United fans - i really can't imagine Old Trafford being an attractive place to go for the worlds best with all this Glazer crap.

Mitch Connor · 28-05-2005 09:38PM

PHB wrote:

Garcia is the reason that Liverpool got to the CL final

true - Garcia was a big part of the reason liverpool won the CL - had a great knack for goals (and good ones at that) but his all round play is very poor. he does have good control when on the ball but his passing and attitude are questionable imo, would have liked a player with his goal scoring knack at United though.....

LegacyUser · 28-05-2005 09:39PM

Tauren wrote:

disappointing bout van der Vaart - always a player i wanted to see at Man United. i have a feeling this is getting to be a very disappointing summer for United fans - i really can't imagine Old Trafford being an attractive place to go for the worlds best with all this Glazer crap.

Players play football...surely they would not give a ****.

LegacyUser · 28-05-2005 09:40PM

Tauren wrote:

true - Garcia was a big part of the reason liverpool won the CL - had a great knack for goals (and good ones at that) but his all round play is very poor. he does have good control when on the ball but his passing and attitude are questionable imo, would have liked a player with his goal scoring knack at United though.....

I agree. Carragher/Gerrard essential but more so Carragher.

Mitch Connor · 28-05-2005 09:47PM

Carragher really shocked me this season - he has been incredable, if anyone has ever deserved a CL winners medal it was him. Against Chelsea it was Carragher who pulled liverpool through. Stevie G will be remembered for his goal that got liverpool through the group stage and his performance in the second half against milan, but imo he was very poor for most of the season (a major reason i don't see him going to chelsea) Jamie Carragher should have got player of the year.

Mitch Connor · 28-05-2005 09:52PM

cheesedude wrote:

Players play football...surely they would not give a ****.

in an ideal world yes, but the atmosphere at united isn't great at the moment, a lot of uncertainty surrounds the future of the club, i can see that being a major factor in a targets mind.

andyman · 28-05-2005 09:58PM

Imo Carragher had a great season. Liverpool would have been out of the group stages if it wasnt for him

PHB · 29-05-2005 11:14AM

Tauren, what exactly is it you think Glazier is doing?
Football players arne't as dedicated to the idea of football as football fans are, because it is a busniess to them, it is their livelyhood.
So what they see is a world class business tycoon taking over United

Mitch Connor · 29-05-2005 11:18AM

PHB wrote:

Tauren, what exactly is it you think Glazier is doing?
Football players arne't as dedicated to the idea of football as football fans are, because it is a busniess to them, it is their livelyhood.
So what they see is a world class business tycoon taking over United

so they would ignore hte fact the club is now in up to £600million in debt? ignore the fact that Nike and Vodafone are threatening to pull out of the sponsorship deals?

They could well see what a lot of other people see - a club on the slide, in a massive amount of debt, in a league that will be dominated by chelsea.

Gangsta · 29-05-2005 11:29AM

Also United won't be able to spend big money like they did on Rooney, Ferdinand and RVN for quite a while

Mitch Connor · 29-05-2005 11:35AM

Gangsta wrote:

Also United won't be able to spend big money like they did on Rooney, Ferdinand and RVN for quite a while

well we could afford another ruud...... he was only 18/19million.

PHB · 29-05-2005 12:18PM

ROFL, I think there is like 5 clubs in all of the CL who aren't in a massive amount of debt, and although it has never occured, the Manchester economy is just as dependent on Man Utd as Madrid is on Real's, so they would bail them out if anything major occured.

Nike and Vodafone can't pull there deals!
Nike can terminate preemtivly in 2 years, which is fine considering Glazier would get some american brand to sponsor united for more money.

Chelsea dominated the league for oen year, Arsenal did it the year before.

Mitch Connor · 29-05-2005 12:26PM

PHB wrote:

ROFL, I think there is like 5 clubs in all of the CL who aren't in a massive amount of debt, and although it has never occured, the Manchester economy is just as dependent on Man Utd as Madrid is on Real's, so they would bail them out if anything major occured.

Nike and Vodafone can't pull there deals!
Nike can terminate preemtivly in 2 years, which is fine considering Glazier would get some american brand to sponsor united for more money.

Chelsea dominated the league for oen year, Arsenal did it the year before.

Vodafone have come out and said they are reviewing the contract. Yes glazer could get a replacement deal for Nike but would it come close to the 303million deal we have with nike, i doubt it. I really really doubt United would be bailed out if anything bad happened - how many other clubs have been, it would set a dangerous precedent. Yes chelsea have dominated the league for just one year but they have the best squad, a great manager and unlimited funds, its not unreasonable to think they could do it again.

I hope i am completely wrong, i would love united to go out and bring in some big names - but i just don't think we will.

mike65 · 29-05-2005 02:24PM

http://www.lfconline.com/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=223694

Dietmar Hamann is set to stay with Liverpool after helping them win the European Cup.

Hamann's current contract is all set to expire and the German was set for a free transfer to Bolton. However, in the light of his wonderful performance on Wednesday night, Hamann is set to be offered a new contract with Liverpool.

Liverpool were prepared to offer Hamann a new contract back in January but he hesitated on signing it and as a consequence it was withdrawn. Now that one year deal is back on the table and Didi will remain a Red.

Mike.

jesus_thats_gre · 29-05-2005 03:18PM

PHB wrote:

ROFL, I think there is like 5 clubs in all of the CL who aren't in a massive amount of debt, and although it has never occured, the Manchester economy is just as dependent on Man Utd as Madrid is on Real's, so they would bail them out if anything major occured.

Nike and Vodafone can't pull there deals!
Nike can terminate preemtivly in 2 years, which is fine considering Glazier would get some american brand to sponsor united for more money.

Chelsea dominated the league for oen year, Arsenal did it the year before.

With all due respect PHB, blind faith and assumptions will not make it so..

Gangsta · 29-05-2005 03:21PM

PHB wrote:

ROFL, I think there is like 5 clubs in all of the CL who aren't in a massive amount of debt, and although it has never occured, the Manchester economy is just as dependent on Man Utd as Madrid is on Real's, so they would bail them out if anything major occured.

Nike and Vodafone can't pull there deals!
Nike can terminate preemtivly in 2 years, which is fine considering Glazier would get some american brand to sponsor united for more money.

Chelsea dominated the league for oen year, Arsenal did it the year before.

Lol, If you want to believe that someone in Manchester will "bail Utd out" if they go bust go right ahead.

andyman · 29-05-2005 03:24PM

All of you going on about Sponsership pullouts might want to leave it away from here and start your own threads discussing this. I blieve theres one about Nike Pulling out anyway.

cashback · 30-05-2005 12:32AM

Apparently Arsenal are going to offer £20m for Torres with Pires and Edu maybe going the other way.
They're also after Robinho for 15m and Jermaine Jenas for 10m.
Hard to know what to make of those.

David19 · 30-05-2005 12:38AM

cashback wrote:

Apparently Arsenal are going to offer £20m for Torres with Pires and Edu maybe going the other way.
They're also after Robinho for 15m and Jermaine Jenas for 10m.
Hard to know what to make of those.

Where did you hear these? Amazing if true. Torres would be lethal with Arsenal. I though Robinho was basically a done deal to Real?

cashback · 30-05-2005 12:42AM

Just read them on the gossp columns on bbc http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4590781.stm
and the one on football365. Would be very interesting alright!
On the Senderos thread someone has posted an article quoting robinho as saying he would be interested in Arsenal.

PHB · 30-05-2005 12:56AM

How can they offer Edu, he is a free agent?
p.s. Torres would go for a lot more than 20 mill + Pires(who is at most worth 5 mill at this stage)

Bannor · 30-05-2005 10:51AM

Don't take this as gospel - obviously not all of these deals are going to happen but here is the current state of play with Liverpool from what I've been told.

Goalkeepers - In
Reina (Villareal) - a done deal

Goalkeepers - Out
Dudek - has been offered to Feyenoord in part exchange for a striker
Harrison - being released by club
Luzi - being released by club

Defenders - In
Alexis (Malaga) - an offer has been made
Gallas (Chelsea) - Rumour that Barca are pulling the plug on the transfer, his agent has made contact with Liverpool.
Miguel (Benfica) - enquiry made
Milito (Real Zaragoza) - enquiry made. Zaragoza are trying to tie the player to a long term contract before Liverpool influence him
Ramos (Sevilla) - very impressed with Liverpool winning the Champions League, his agent has been in contact to say the player would be interested in a move.

Defenders - Out
Ostemobor - being released by club
Traore - his agent is currently resurrecting a move to Everton
Warnock - has been offered as a make weight in a couple of potential transfers. Also been subject of an enquiry from Everton.

Midfielders - In
Angel (Malaga) - offer has been made
Boamorte (Fulham) - An offer of £2M plus Warnock
Figo (Real Madrid) - Due to interest from other clubs, Madrid now want money for the player. Player has told Benitez that Liverpool is his choice. There has also been contact from Bolton, Newcastle, Inter Milan and a couple of Japanese clubs.
Galetti (Real Zaragoza) - enquiry made
Gerard (Barcelona) - player has rejected Barca's contract offer and his agent has been in contact with Liverpool.
Hargreaves (Bayern Munich) - Clubs haggling over player valuation, he's on a bosman next season
Malbranque (Fulham) - An offer of £3M
Prutton (Southampton) - enquiry made
Rodriguez (Malaga) - done deal
Wright-Philips (Man City) - Arsenal aren't biting and seem to think that Robinho is going to turn down Madrid for them. Liverpool have an offer of £10M plus Warnock on the table.

Midfielders - Out
Biscan - Contract won't be renewed
Cheyrou - Rafa doesn't care where he goes, has asked Houllier if he wants to take him to Lyon.
Diao - told to find another club
Diarra - Doesn't feature in Rafa's plans
Partridge - being released by club
Smicer - Has offers from several Premiership clubs (Aston Villa,Bolton,Everton,Newcastle). Berger has been asked by O'Leary to use his influence to nudge Vlad in the direction of Villa.
Welsh - Been told he will never be more than a squad player at the club

Forwards - In
Johnson (Crystal Palace) - Offer of £6M on the table, Crystal Palace chairman thinks the player is worth twice that.
Kuyt (Feyenoord) - Offer of £6M plus Dudek has been made
Crouch (Southampton) - an enquiry has been made

Forwards - Out
Baros - Valencia looks to be a certainty now
Diouf - Bolton are putting finances in place for a deal, might involve a player part exchange
Mellor - Told to start looking for a new club
Smyth - being released by club

PHB · 30-05-2005 11:04AM

Chelsea are reported to be on the verge of signing AC Milan's Georgian defender Kakha Kaladze who has confirmed he is leaving the Italian giants.

Kaladze has not been a regular for the club this season, and Gazzetta dello Sport says in Monday's edition that he is joining the English champions.

After Sunday's draw with Udinese, Kaladze said: "I'm disappointed to leave, but I need to play much more."

A second left back signing?
Is bridges injury worse than thought?
Is he not happy with second string, if so, good for him.

yom 1 · 30-05-2005 11:06AM

bannor any truth in the rumours of Patrice Evra goin to the pool

Third_Echelon · 30-05-2005 11:11AM

Bannor wrote:

Traore - his agent is currently resurrecting a move to Everton

Please god... make it not happen

Bannor · 30-05-2005 11:24AM

I have heard that Riise looks certain to be the left back at the start of next season, Hargreaves is seen as a player who can fill in either fullback position when required - it doesn't mean that Evra isn't an option, I know his agent has been in contact with the club.

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