If you could change one law...

Tar.Aldarion · 14-05-2005 02:38PM

introduce a battle royale system or an unreal tournament system! for like the bad guys.
also i would like to see knackers getting zero leniancy

Nala · 14-05-2005 02:42PM

Introduce legislation on how people keep their animals.
Puppy farming is huge in this country, dogs are bred over and over again in dreadful conditions, but there is nothing that can be done to stop it because there are no laws against it.

I'd also tighten up the Dangerous Dogs Act, since my cat was savaged by someone else's dog.

CerebralCortex · 14-05-2005 02:52PM

I would increase the drinking age limit from 18 to 21. It wouldn't happen though people would whinge about it and so much money would be lost. At the same time I believe SOME people are still kids at 18 I know I was.

I also think kids should be allowed drink wine with their parents so they can learn to drink more responsibly.

Tar.Aldarion · 14-05-2005 02:53PM

of course they should

CerebralCortex · 14-05-2005 02:53PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

introduce a battle royale system or an unreal tournament system! for like the bad guys.
also i would like to see knackers getting zero leniancy

I concur with the Honourable delegate Tar.Aldarion.

Tar.Aldarion · 14-05-2005 02:57PM

i would just like to say one monumental thing,honourable like a fox

nlgbbbblth · 14-05-2005 11:00PM

put any young offenders above the age of 12 into prison as opposed to detention centres etc.

Newspapers should be allowed print their names when reporting crimes.

rsynnott · 15-05-2005 02:56AM

silas wrote:

Yeah Id like the longer minimum sentences for criminals, I mean look at the US, rob a newsaggents and your put away for a serious long stint, almost comparable to manslaughter sentences here. The law is way too lenient in this country, with criminals getting out on good behavour after a few years. Well thats what I'd like to see changed anyway.

And yet they have one of the highest crime rates in the developed world, and more people in prison than anyone since WW2-era Germany. Lovely.

I'd change the libel laws, which favour the libelled person to a ridiculous extent, far more than in most countries.

gaui3d0pnbz86o · 15-05-2005 10:19AM

id change a couple of things:

firstly, hard laber work for petty crimes -eg building roads! maybe then they would get built!- and longer prison sentences, non of this out for good behaviour BS, you do a crime, do the time. also let minors be jailed, im sick of scumbags thinking they are above the law

second, i get rid of this rediculus(sp) claim culture we seem to be developing,everyone is sueing everyone, over pointless things these days. eg councils have stopped you carrying a coffin in certain council graveyards as people were hurting their backs and sueing

third, alcohol is a major problem today, from crime to clogging up A&E to underage scumbags drinking, so my law would be simple, prohabition, ban it all i say! the best way to fix a problem is to get rid of the cause!

and before you ask im not a teatotaller, i do enjoy an odd pint but i do know i do not need alcohol, and would gladly give it up if it and fully support prohabition as i belive it would fix some aspects to our socity

Sangre · 15-05-2005 07:31PM

jor el wrote:

If someone attacks you then you should be able to attack back. Currently, the law allows for self defence, which doesn't give you the right to go on the offensive. As far as I'm concerned, if someone decides to attack you then they give up their right to be protected by the law and as such you should be allowed to fight back as much as you feel like.

Yes you can pre-emptly defend yourself.

You can also defend your family/property and the property of another if he asks you to.

Learn the law people!

For the person you wants marriage for everyone who loves eachother, what about incest (brother/sister) or polygamy (4 wives)?

rsynnott · 15-05-2005 07:36PM

Sangre wrote:

For the person you wants marriage for everyone who loves eachother, what about incest (brother/sister) or polygamy (4 wives)?

I think they probably mean recognition of LEGAL relationships. And I've never been convinced that there's a problem with polygamous marraige, as long as everyone involved wants to do it, besides the horrible legal complications.

And yes, absolutely, gay marriage should be brought in.

And paedophiles should NOT be allowed to continue being judges just because the evidence in their trial was ****ed up.

MrScruff · 15-05-2005 08:20PM

2. I'd change licencing laws so that alcohol can be available like all other consumer products; if people are treated more like adults they'll be have more like adults.

Like other consumer products? Bread and milk? Remove age restrictions? Can be
"bought" with some form of legal tender?
I don't believe availability is the issue Ireland has with alcohol, do you?

4. I'd make a law so that parents and teachers who hit children are prosecuted; violence only breeds violence.

Ya! We could call it assault, or GBH or some catchy name like Child Abuse.

Saruman · 16-05-2005 01:06PM

Braxton Damp Maroon wrote:

id change a couple of things:

third, alcohol is a major problem today, from crime to clogging up A&E to underage scumbags drinking, so my law would be simple, prohabition, ban it all i say! the best way to fix a problem is to get rid of the cause!

Jaysus i must sound like a big pro alcohol person but this is a silly statement and can never work. Its been tried before in other countries.. namely the US where Alcohol consumption did not go away, it simply became illegal to drink and so it came under the control of criminals.. remember Al capone???
Not to mention all the thousands of jobs that would be lost as a result!!!

No stupid idea.. however the other 2 are spot on!!! Less people in Jail for stupid things, get them to do community service. Hey lets be like LA, attach trackers to them.. if they take it off instant jail.. Could also have a 3 strikes law.. 3 arrests in any given period and instant jail.

pretty-in-pink · 16-05-2005 04:40PM

so many problems to change.....Yes tighter control on scumbags....no more favoring them because of background (either by having daddy pay off the court or becasue they "dont know better" as they are scum), and harsher punishments for all(I to believe in the three strikes rule), I'd also legalise gay marriage, but since its only one law we can change, and all of these have been tackled, I'd have to say:

Leagilise prostitutuon- you know somewhere clean and safe to go, set wage, government would get their precious tax(another area that needs work), perhaps some licence system...STD checks on the girls- get an std and you lose your licence till its gone. Contraception is a must, and crack whores(the wacked out ones who are just in it to get a fix) don't get a licence. You can practise it so long as

a) you're looking for a better job
b) you're practising safe sex
c) you're not having sex with a minor
d) you're clean - stds and drugs wise

It's a very dangerous area to be, and if you put legislation there to protect the girls, a lot of the sex-slave, rape and murder cases would drop (having read an auto-biography of a woman who worked a few places in dublin, and a book written on prostituation mainly in dublin, by a journalist (the times I think), it appears this is an area that needs a lot of help.

cil_aine · 16-05-2005 04:59PM

i agree, having it illegal only makes things worse.

chillywilly · 16-05-2005 05:11PM

naughty_girl wrote:

so many problems to change.....Yes tighter control on scumbags....no more favoring them because of background (either by having daddy pay off the court or becasue they "dont know better" as they are scum),

i know where you are coming from, these people should be dealt with accordingly but how about tighter control on their problems?

"no more favoring them because of background"
i do believe in this. Everyone treated the same. A wealthy criminal is as big a piece of s**t as a poor one.

how about more schemes to solve the socio economic problems have. :cool:

Saruman · 16-05-2005 06:31PM

Actually i think parents should be able to smack their kids... As long as the law protects the children from abuse but if a kid is being a shít then he should get a spanking... Kids these days since that law was passed are running wild and getting worse.

Romo · 16-05-2005 07:30PM

Fishie wrote:

I'd make sentences way stricter for rapists and paedophiles. I'd do my best to get rid of all the little technicalities that let people off - I'm thinking of Judge Curtin and Liam Keane here.

Judge Curtain-serving a search warrant on a sitting Judge would have most Guard's hair standing on end. Every i would be dotted and every t crossed. Yet they manage to use an out of date search warrant. Yeah right. And didn't some of the ****wad Guards who ****ed up get a promotion afterwards.

You want to know why I think he got off. He's aware of the identity of numerous pederasts within the judicial and political elites.

Something very similar is rumoured to have occurred in Britain. Allegedly, the F.B.I found the credit card details of numerous members of the Blair government and the British Judiciary on these sites but the whole thing was suppressed as it was in the run up to the Iraq war and the moral credibility of the British government would have been destroyed.

Makes you sick.

rubadub · 16-05-2005 07:44PM

flogen wrote:

For the purpose of avoiding the obvious crap, the decriminalisation or legalisation of drugs isn't an option, so what else?

If thats the case I would like to see alcohol, caffeine and nictoine made illegal put in the same class as all the other illegal recreational drugs, so the self-righteous holier than-thou kunt-fuks will be in the same class as those they now view as scumbag junkies. I would love to see my local policitian or the local "ned flanders" down an alley, in the pissing rain, waiting for his dealer to arrive with a bottle of poitin and a pack o' 20 in absolute fear of being caught. Then forking out a wad of cash only to get home and find he has been sold a bottle of water and his smokes are full of plastic.

Otherwise I would like to see the drinking age increased to 21 and pub hours to be abolished, which I frimly believe would reduce alcohol consumption and street crime. Politicians seem blind to the "last orders" culture of countries with early closing hours.

rsynnott · 16-05-2005 09:39PM

Romo wrote:

You want to know why I think he got off. He's aware of the identity of numerous pederasts within the judicial and political elites.

Pederast is the wrong term; it refers exclusively someone who sexually abuses young boys.

But yep, I doubt the investigation was ****ed up entirely by accident... And it is RIDICULOUS not to be able to use iron-clad evidence improperly obtained.

thebutlerdidit · 16-05-2005 09:53PM

I think the law should change in respect to the rights of people when they are committing a criminal act. Example burglars etc, if they get hurt in the process they can sue!??! BS!! Once engaging in crimes I think the person should immeadiately lose all right to any recourse.... they would forfiet them essentially

Sangre · 16-05-2005 10:32PM

rsynnott wrote:

Pederast is the wrong term; it refers exclusively someone who sexually abuses young boys.

But yep, I doubt the investigation was ****ed up entirely by accident... And it is RIDICULOUS not to be able to use iron-clad evidence improperly obtained.

Its not ridiculous.

To suggest otherwise would advocate a police state where privacy and civil rights law are non-existant.

Sangre · 16-05-2005 10:34PM

thebutlerdidit wrote:

I think the law should change in respect to the rights of people when they are committing a criminal act. Example burglars etc, if they get hurt in the process they can sue!??! BS!! Once engaging in crimes I think the person should immeadiately lose all right to any recourse.... they would forfiet them essentially

That wouldn't happen here.

Also all the people suggestin stricter jail terms like in America...what are you thinking of?
Who in their right mind would use America as an example to clean up crime? The place is a hole compared to out little gem of an island crime wise.
Not to mention it costs $80,000 to house a criminal for a year.

rubadub · 17-05-2005 01:45PM

Sangre wrote:

Also all the people suggestin stricter jail terms like in America...what are you thinking of?

Maybe they are thinking of crimes they have commited in the past and how they would not have commited the crime if the penalty was greater (if caught), such as drink-driving, littering, minor assault, spousal abuse, shoplifting.

rsynnott · 17-05-2005 02:06PM

rubadub wrote:

Maybe they are thinking of crimes they have commited in the past and how they would not have commited the crime if the penalty was greater (if caught), such as drink-driving, littering, minor assault, spousal abuse, shoplifting.

Higher penalties for CERTAIN crimes are required. Those who practice spousal abuse should be SHOT (well, not really, but something suitably nasty should be done to the ****ing sadists). But it is a little bizarre to use the US, of all places, as an example of a desirable criminal justice system.

And I still think we should use iron-clad evidence obtained improperly.

Sangre · 17-05-2005 02:30PM

rsynnott wrote:

Higher penalties for CERTAIN crimes are required. Those who practice spousal abuse should be SHOT (well, not really, but something suitably nasty should be done to the ****ing sadists). But it is a little bizarre to use the US, of all places, as an example of a desirable criminal justice system.

And I still think we should use iron-clad evidence obtained improperly.

So police could randomnly search your house whenver they wanted to try and get any evidence against you?
They could beat and torture you into a confession?
They could stop you in the street and bring you into custody for a strip search?

Is that really what you want?

eyebrows · 17-05-2005 03:08PM

Sangre wrote:

So police could randomnly search your house whenver they wanted to try and get any evidence against you?
They could beat and torture you into a confession?
They could stop you in the street and bring you into custody for a strip search?

Is that really what you want?

I have to say Sangre right on this one. ya cant let police use evidence if obtained improperly.

CerebralCortex · 17-05-2005 03:19PM

Saruman wrote:

Actually i think parents should be able to smack their kids... As long as the law protects the children from abuse but if a kid is being a shít then he should get a spanking... Kids these days since that law was passed are running wild and getting worse.

Nonsense! Its never a kids fault if they act out of line its all to do with parenting i.e. with the people who have the responsibility. The way I see it is if can't parent your children properly and you to resort to voilence (yes Voilence) then you should not be a parent.

When I was hit it filled me resentment and anger and probably caused more physcological problems then I'm aware of.

daymobrew · 17-05-2005 03:40PM

I'm all on for hard labour for criminals. They should earn the 80k that it costs to house them. The rest of us work hard to pay taxes so they can sit on their arses watching TV.
And no face-to-face visitations where drugs are easily passed - separated by glass with a phone to talk.

How about a bit of public flogging? Remember the American kid in Singapore who was caught vandalising a car. He got a few nice slaps. I doubt he'll do that again.
As it would be done in public then the person is humilated too.
Of course, for this to be a deterrant, the Gardai would actually have to be out catching people. [I'm cynical because despite frequently telling them about locations of loads of red light breaking they never put anyone at those locations.]

ambro25 · 17-05-2005 04:58PM

I'd make parents legally responsible for their kids until those turn 18 (or whatever age at which they become their own legal person). Smashed my car window? I'll have that repair bill paid by your da', 'ta very much... Can't pay? I'll have that Sony TV repo'd by bailiffs, 'ta very much, etc.

Would take some politico with balls, tho'...Big f*ck-off brassy ones, at that... :rolleyes:

If you could change one law...

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