fag burns in carpet

catspring · 03-03-2005 03:37PM #1

firstly, mods feel free to move this if it's not in the right place.
secondly, this is a very boring thread, but i need advice people.

ok, the house i rent with two of my mates, am in college, is supposed to be no smoking according to the land lord. now we all smoke but when the landlord's coming round we open windows and hang the curtains out to air etc. it's not a problem. the problem is that as the result of a few parties there are a few small, but noticable, fag burns in the carpet. we need to diguise these for the final inspection so we get our deposits back.
anyone had to do this before and have any hints fo us?
we were thinking of cutting wee bits of fluff from other parts of the carpet in a non-noticable way and sticking them to the fag burns with nail varnish...
is this just ridiculous? or are we on to something?
any advice appreciated*

*will prolly regret having said that given the location of this thread and the nature of sarcastic irish people...

Goodshape · 03-03-2005 03:47PM

Your idea's the one I'd go for. I suppose you only need to make it less noticable - landlords probobaly not going to be inspecting every inch of carpet in any great detail.

And next time, just spread the hash better

Kingsize · 03-03-2005 03:53PM

sounds good or you could cut a whole chunk from under the sofa & glue that baby to the floor & ruff it up

Blub2k4 · 03-03-2005 03:56PM

catspring wrote:

firstly, mods feel free to move this if it's not in the right place.
secondly, this is a very boring thread, but i need advice people.

ok, the house i rent with two of my mates, am in college, is supposed to be no smoking according to the land lord. now we all smoke but when the landlord's coming round we open windows and hang the curtains out to air etc. it's not a problem. the problem is that as the result of a few parties there are a few small, but noticable, fag burns in the carpet. we need to diguise these for the final inspection so we get our deposits back.
anyone had to do this before and have any hints fo us?
we were thinking of cutting wee bits of fluff from other parts of the carpet in a non-noticable way and sticking them to the fag burns with nail varnish...
is this just ridiculous? or are we on to something?
any advice appreciated*

*will prolly regret having said that given the location of this thread and the nature of sarcastic irish people...

If you do the idea with the bits of fluff correctly it is almost as good as a repair, use superglue and cut a sqare around the fag burn to make a clean hole of it then repair with a square piece the same size and if you pay attention to the lay of the pile it is perfect.

I have had to do this before as well.

iMax · 03-03-2005 04:00PM

Unbelieveable, this guy rents you his property with conditions imposed, you agree to them, then break them & you then want to con him into giving your deposit back, which you agreed at contract stage to forfiet should you cause any damage ?

Hopefully he'll get to keep enough of it to rectify the damage you caused. Next time try following the rules that you agree to.

[Jackass] · 03-03-2005 04:04PM

Beat me to it kingsize. The sacred craft of carpet repair is an ancient, but very scientific one. Especially when the results of you effort will be inspected by the feared, money grabbing, evil land lord...looking for any excuse to screw you out of more money.So here's what we did: Our kitchen table was also on the carpet, so lifting the table up, we cut out, just inside the lines of the "rings" the pressure of the table leaves on the carpet and placed it back in the same spot. Using our circles of deception, we stregicaly cut out the burnt/soiled parts, replacing it with the fresh parts. Using household glue, it's sticks their as though a master carpenter had laid it himself. (wait a minute...do they lay carpets??

)
A quick hoover, aprox 12 hours later, and bobs your uncle, it never happend. You may choose to now stick the soiled parts under the legs of the table/sofa/cofee table/tv....but lets face it...its more fun knowing if he moves it, you're fu*ked!

karlh · 03-03-2005 04:09PM

iMax wrote:

Unbelieveable, this guy rents you his property with conditions imposed, you agree to them, then break them & you then want to con him into giving your deposit back, which you agreed at contract stage to forfiet should you cause any damage ?

Hopefully he'll get to keep enough of it to rectify the damage you caused. Next time try following the rules that you agree to.

STFU. landlords are scum.

anyway, you are right. if its the same carpet all over, theres usually a bit spare around built in wardrobes, at door frames etc. it is THE way to repair carpet. have some burns i need to sort out myself...

Goodshape · 03-03-2005 04:12PM

iMax wrote:

Blah.

ffs..

For one thing, she's asking the best way to repair the damage - which will cost a lot less than the landlord would charge them.

And for another thing... rules, pffft.

the_syco · 03-03-2005 04:13PM

Also, its cheaper to buy a new door, and install it, than it is for the landlord to do it. Nice, esp when you tryed to kick it open, but instead put your foot through it :rolleyes:

iMax · 03-03-2005 04:16PM

STFU Landlords are scum ??? - yup there's a witty retort right there.

So if "Landlords are scum" where would you or the original poster be living if it wasn't for them ?

They provide a service, which people are quite willing to pay for. Openly flouting conditions imposed at time of contract that are freely agreed to deserves being caught on.

They don't allow smoking in pubs either, are you going to do it there ?

[Jackass] · 03-03-2005 04:24PM

I think the point is, if im going to pay your mortgage, at least let me do what i want in the house, within reason....smoking is within reason.

iMax · 03-03-2005 04:29PM

It's not within reason if it's specifically agreed upon at contract stage. If the landlord stated in their contract that it is a non smoking house, and they agreed to it, then it should be a non smoking house.

Or at least if you're going to smoke in it, you should exercise caution to ensure you do not damage the landlord's property, which has obviously not been done in this case.

For the record, I'm not a landlord.

karlh · 03-03-2005 04:38PM

iMax wrote:

STFU Landlords are scum ??? - yup there's a witty retort right there.

thanks, i thought so.

iMax wrote:

So if "Landlords are scum" where would you or the original poster be living if it wasn't for them ?
They provide a service, which people are quite willing to pay for. Openly flouting conditions imposed at time of contract that are freely agreed to deserves being caught on.

i'm guessing you're a landlord....even if you aren't, landlords on the whole are people taking advantage of housing shortages, charging as much as they possibly can.
if they were just providing a service, i don't think i would have been paying €500 a month for places that shouldnt house a dog, in years past.

the new breed of landlords, the lucky people who can actually buy a house/apartment these days 'as an investment' are just using other people to pay their mortgages with absolutely no other justification for the amount of money they charge.

that = scum IMO.

iMax wrote:

They don't allow smoking in pubs either, are you going to do it there?

they don't allow masturbation in public either but i'll be damned if some culchie landlord is gonna stop me polishing the bishop.

<edit>just saw you're not a landlord.....you just like them for some reason.</edit>

Spalk0 · 03-03-2005 04:47PM

LOL well put karlhoff!

IMO Land lords are out for as much as they can get!A few small burns(and they cant be big unless you had Meteors dropping out of those spliffs) can be easily covered up with another bit of the carpet!

If at all possible move something over the badly effcted areas!

iMax · 03-03-2005 04:59PM

Of course they're going to charge more than the mortgage is, they're in it for the business not charity. The extra charged goes towards repairs that tenants like you cause.

€500 a month ? That's not a lot of money. It costs me & my wife over €1500 a month just to live. How much do you spend on cigarettes ? How much do you spend on Hash ? How much do you spend on going out ? My last night out was at Christmas, I can't afford to smoke (gave up because I couldn't afford them anymore, not because of health reasons). Welcome to the real world.

FYI - Masturbation in public is not illegal, lewd behaviour is. ("Lewd Behaviour" comes from the old English legal charge of "unlearned behavour" - basically anything which is likely to cause offence to the general public because it traditionally should be done in private, things not done by more "learned" people).

Spalk0 · 03-03-2005 05:02PM

I think that 500 a month is whats he pays to share with others!?

karlh · 03-03-2005 05:07PM

iMax wrote:

Of course they're going to charge more than the mortgage is, they're in it for the business not charity. The extra charged goes towards repairs that tenants like you cause.

so they aren't in it to provide a service. point proven.

iMax wrote:

€500 a month ? That's not a lot of money.

since when is €500 not a lot of money? give me €500 in that case!? anyways, i meant it is ridiculous rent to pay for grotty 1 room flats that i've lived in.

iMax wrote:

It costs me & my wife over €1500 a month just to live.

you could always consider renting out a room?

iMax wrote:

How much do you spend on cigarettes ? How much do you spend on Hash ? How much do you spend on going out ? My last night out was at Christmas, I can't afford to smoke (gave up because I couldn't afford them anymore, not because of health reasons). Welcome to the real world.

i've been living in the real world a lot longer than you by the sounds of things. i smoke and go out as many nights a week as physically possible FYI but i fail to see how your financial situation or social life has to do with the ethics of landlords or fixing this guys ciggie burns in his carpet!?

iMax wrote:

FYI - Masturbation in public is not illegal

game on! meet you on Grafton St. 6pm!

karlh · 03-03-2005 05:08PM

Spalk0 wrote:

I think that 500 a month is whats he pays to share with others!?

a few years ago some 1 room kennels, now sharing a nice place for the same money.

BuffyBot · 03-03-2005 05:12PM

I think the point is, if im going to pay your mortgage, at least let me do what i want in the house, within reason....smoking is within reason.

Well no, not really. Smoking is within reason if you rent a property in which the landlord allows smoking. If you agree to rent a non-smoking one knowing that it's non-smoking then it's not within reason.

karlh · 03-03-2005 05:17PM

i'd be very surprised if it was specified as non-smoking in the lease.

with new tenancy laws, a rented place is basically your home and i don't think the landlord has much say one you're not a nuisance?

i agree that if you are sharing a house with them as a lodger it is totally different!

Gilgamesh · 03-03-2005 05:20PM

just wake the Fag up and ask him to leave, or at least go onto the Sofa when the Landlord comes,

couldn't resist

[Jackass] · 05-03-2005 05:39PM

BuffyBot wrote:

Well no, not really. Smoking is within reason if you rent a property in which the landlord allows smoking. If you agree to rent a non-smoking one knowing that it's non-smoking then it's not within reason.

Like Karlhoff said, tenancy laws mean if you pay your €500 a month for example, during the time it's paid for, simular to a hotel room, you can smoke if you want. If your landlord asks you not to smoke, give him the choice between a smell of smoke and €500 a month, with possibly €20-50 damage, or find new tennents that will prob screw him on the rent anyway. For a tiny room in a sh!tty flat, with 2 bedrooms and 3 other people paying €500, that's €2,000 a month, €24,000 a year, for a €14,000 a year mortgage...it's a lot easier to find a flat then it is to find tennants! For once it's an area where the consumer has a little power because they're in more demand, there's a lot more empty flats out there than homeless students. So you can put up with smelling smoke, and wiping your ar$e with 20's imo, and stop whinging! I've never missed a payment in my life...my landlord said no partys, and no smoking...he's seen the house when the kitchen table was coverd in tins, bottles and hot rocks...randomers passed out in the corner, and a reak of sweet smoke...oh, and his rent in an envelope...he's never complained..cause he knows no matter what i do in there, he's making a killing!

BuffyBot · 05-03-2005 05:49PM

That, or you've just got a understanding landlord....

Humblebee · 07-03-2005 10:10PM

Unless he's got a persian rug on the floor, he had better not complain about a few holes in the turf. The carpets landlords put into most flats aren't worth 1 percent of the profits they makes off their renters.

And do any of us believe for one moment, that if a renter pays for burning a few little holes in the rug, the landlord is gonna REPAIR the holes for the next tenant? That money is going straight into the landlords pocket. Why? Because he knows he can rent the room to the next tenant, WITH the burns in the carpet, for the SAME amount of money. How many places have you lived in that were in perect condition when you moved in? Yeah, thought so.

Giblet · 07-03-2005 10:16PM

Em, use an ashtray you bums.

catspring · 08-03-2005 03:57PM

firstly, thanks for the advice.
secondly, we do use ashtrays! we had a party for one of my house mates birthdays and it wasn't actually any of us that burnt the carpet, but merely a drunken accident by one or two of our mates.
imax, i appreciate that smoking in a non-smoking house might offend some people, but it wasn't agreed to in the lease. the landlord asked at a later date, after we'd moved in, if any of us smoke so we said no cos it meant we would've had to move out, go house hunting again and, we really wanted the house, etc.
i don't see the big deal, we didn't do any other damage to the house. we air it out regularly so the curtains/ sofa covers, ect don't smell of smoke. and only one person smokes full time anyway. and we're trying to fix up the one bit of damage we caused. if we don't do a good job the landlord will take money off us.
btw, the landlords a bit of a gobsh!te anyway.

ShiverinEskimo · 08-03-2005 06:18PM

I'm still shocked that people are defending landlords of students. I mean if I was buying a house to rent to students I would be an asshole to think that there was no drinking or smoking going on. if you want quiet smoke free houses rent them to young professionals or a family and the like. If you rent to students you are preparing yourself for the grief that comes with students - however you will find that students will complain a whole lot less about the little things being wrong that most married couples renting. A mates house is just built and there is half a wooden floor to go in and building gear all over the place. Problem? it would be for a married couple but the students smoke and pay their rent and everyone is happy.

Oh and this guys landlord should have put in laminate flooring - don't have to worry about burns then.

If relation to the original post - your idea sounds good. Or as someone else suggested lift a larger lump from under a couch or something and job done. Is the carpet a dark colour? darker coplour would be much easier.

Maximilian · 08-03-2005 06:38PM

Gilgamesh wrote:

just wake the Fag up and ask him to leave, or at least go onto the Sofa when the Landlord comes,

couldn't resist

You beat me to it you bastage!!

catspring · 08-03-2005 06:53PM

ShiverinEskimo wrote:

lift a larger lump from under a couch or something and job done. .

wouldn't like to do this because then we'd actually be messing up the carpet and if they want to change the furniture about it'd leave them a bit stuck.

ShiverinEskimo wrote:

Is the carpet a dark colour? darker colour would be much easier.

no, it's flooking biege!!! beige and cream and tan mottled type!!! it's in the first room you come in to once you come in the front door too!!! how stupid is that!!! we've had to wash it quite a few times with fairy liquid and a sponge because of this. yet the carpet upstairs is the same kind but in a darker colour. where's the logic???

fag burns in carpet

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