Dundrum Shopping Centre

Glowing · 31-01-2005 04:30PM #1

Any one know when this is due to open? I know it should be sometime in March but has there been a date confirmed yet?

Kingsize · 31-01-2005 04:34PM

march 3rd as far as i know & its open 9am til 9pm every day!!!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-01-2005 04:38PM

\o/

that's my sisters birthday

party in dundrum shopping center!

Glowing · 31-01-2005 04:45PM

Well the reason I ask is that I live right beside it, and it doesn't 'look' like its anywhere near ready!

Is the cinema part opening later in the year? Its still covered in scafolding ....

:eek:

Red Alert · 31-01-2005 07:48PM

end of fed, mid march AFAIK.

gandalf · 31-01-2005 09:01PM

Live beside the building site as well. At the moment there is no way they will be ready for the beginning of March. Not looking forward to traffic around here when it is up and running. The place is a monster !

I suppose I will have to console myself and buy stuff

Flukey · 31-01-2005 10:53PM

It will be opened in phases. The first will open on March 3rd and the other parts will come onstream further down the line.

http://www.dundrum.ie/

JackKelly · 01-02-2005 12:19AM

i too live near. Cant wait for it to open. My god it has a hell of an amount of shops.

heggie · 01-02-2005 01:49AM

i live near it too hehe ! we should get a dundrum forum

Lemming · 01-02-2005 02:54AM

I actually want to level the place .... it's destroyed the village feel of Dundrum which is just .... dominated by this monstrosity.

And the traffic is going to be utterly, utterly f.u.b.a.r.

okidoki987 · 01-02-2005 09:36AM

Yep traffic is going to be the killer.
It will be like Liffey valley and Blanchardstown but the BIG difference is
at least they had the roads. Dundrum still has the small "town" roads which are totally unsuitable for the amount of traffic that they will have to carry.
Trying to get past it is also going to be a problem with Q's everywhere when it opens first. One of the problems with opening while the rest of the centre is still a building site, will be the amount of dust and muck that will get everywhere.
Not looking forward to it!

Glowing · 01-02-2005 09:39AM

I can't believe its opening that soon! Wow!

I agree about the traffic - it will be hell. We can only hope that the Luas will take some of the pressure off. The traffic along the ballinteer road near the M50 is chocablock already, i don't know how we're going to manage.

From the website, it seems that the next phase will be the cinema/theatre. Does that mean all the shops will be opening next month?

gandalf · 01-02-2005 10:32AM

Well most of the shops have been recruiting since before Christmas so I would say yes a majority of them will be up and running.

I agree with Lemming this has ruined the whole area, but then again all the apartments and houses they are cramming into every little spare piece of land around there is as well. As long as FF's property developer mates "get paid" eh :rolleyes:

Lemming · 01-02-2005 11:28AM

gandalf wrote:

I agree with Lemming this has ruined the whole area, but then again all the apartments and houses they are cramming into every little spare piece of land around there is as well. As long as FF's property developer mates "get paid" eh :rolleyes:

The apartments just opposite the centre are gruesome - and they've completely blocked out Dundrum Castle.

F'in FF tossers .....

Glowing wrote:

I agree about the traffic - it will be hell. We can only hope that the Luas will take some of the pressure off. The traffic along the ballinteer road near the M50 is chocablock already, i don't know how we're going to manage.

The LUAS can't cope already!

Glowing · 01-02-2005 11:40AM

I believe there are plans to close off traffic to the main st .... well except for busses. It might help preserve the 'village' feel to dundrum, but I suppose it will lead to even more jams on the bypass.

Lemming · 01-02-2005 11:54AM

Glowing wrote:

I believe there are plans to close off traffic to the main st .... well except for busses. It might help preserve the 'village' feel to dundrum, but I suppose it will lead to even more jams on the bypass.

I love this mentality that exists in Dublin Corp. (which is incidentally why Dublin has and is being used as a text book example by every other European city in how *not* to handle traffic planning) of "Hey .. we've built a new road. Lets close the old one". Roads are built to alleviate the burden on older roads .... not to just outright replace them. Otherwise you're back to square one.

Bunch of f*ckwits!

zokrez · 01-02-2005 12:54PM

It is ironic that Dublin Bus declared that they are pulling 48A route because of fall in numbers. Luas and road network wont be able to cope with the traffic and god help anyone driving home to Ballally, Sandyford going out that way. I have just looked at the website and cant believe the number of shops there are. Wrong site. The traffic jams will be way worse than Blanch ever was. Disaster. And if they close the main street ? Should have been situated at Druids Valley near Shankill instead of even more apartments. The city has been suffocated. DNR !

zokrez · 01-02-2005 12:56PM

Massimo Dutti ! Great clobber.

gandalf · 01-02-2005 01:06PM

LOL forgot about the 48A being discontinued

Nice one Dublin Bus, it would have made more sense to leave it running and see what additional business they would pick up from the shopping centre for 6 months and review it then :rolleyes:

Also didn't realise the Main Street was going to be closed, and don't forget the old shopping centre has to be knocked and apartments to be built on the site, ie years more of chaos !!!

Glowing · 01-02-2005 01:10PM

I heard there was a hotel planned for the old shopping centre. Well I can't say i'm sorry to see that happen, the place is a hole.

I also CAN'T BELIEVE they are pulling the 48a, when is that due to happen?

I don't think this country has any sense at all sometimes. .... we need to bring in some proper engineers, like the Dutch or the French perhaps. They really know how to do things properly. I think the only hope we have in Dublin is if they buldozed the entire city, and started again

gandalf · 01-02-2005 01:22PM

48A is going in the next couple of weeks according to the newspapers at the weekend.

Article here (requires registration - free) http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1329012&issue_id=12012

And here is the text

Bus route axed as Luas takes the passenger load

ONE of Dublin's longest running bus routes, 48A to Dundrum, is being scrapped by Dublin Bus as commuters opt for the Luas service instead.

And the bus company is also reviewing both the 77 and 56A routes in view of the impact of the light rail trams between Connolly station and Tallaght.

Last night Fine Gael Transport spokesperson Olivia Mitchell called for the axing of the 48A to be immediately overturned while the Green Party said buses freed up by the ending of the route should be diverted to the infrequent 44 service to Enniskerry.

Under the Dublin Bus plan the 48A service would be taken over by the 14/14A with the same frequency of service maintained.

It said four to five buses would be available to the company because of the move which is expected in a matter of weeks. These would be used where needed elsewhere.

Ms Mitchell said: "It may well be that the Luas has taken many passenger from the 48A but there are many journeys people need to make which cannot be replaced by Luas. It seems every time there is a new transport service announced the public has to pay with the loss of an existing service."

Figures at the end of last year suggested Dublin Bus lost up to 10,000 passengers a day on its routes in the catchment areas served by the two Luas lines. But the Roads Procurement Agency dismissed suggestions that the Luas was poaching bus passengers.

Frank Khan

Blisterman · 01-02-2005 01:46PM

I'm glad I don't have to use that anymore.

Dr. Dre · 01-02-2005 04:18PM

Ah the 48A, such memories. Many a time it transported me to/from my grans in Ballinteer when I was younger.

impr0v · 01-02-2005 04:59PM

Glowing wrote:

I don't think this country has any sense at all sometimes. .... we need to bring in some proper engineers, like the Dutch or the French perhaps. They really know how to do things properly.

This isn't an engineering issue. Engineers get the unenviable task of trying to make the best of years of compounded bad policy and planning decisions. If all the above (presumably) non-technical people can see that there is going to be traffic armageddon upon the opening of the centre, then you can be sure that engineers can see it.

If you ask the question why a centre of such size would get planning permission in an area which is relatively badly served by infrastructure, notwithstanding the already over-subscribed LUAS, then the engineers won't be able to give you an answer, they'll point you in the direction of the planners and it's no secret that the planning process in this country is somewhat susceptible to political pressure, or that political pressure can occasionally be hired.

heggie · 01-02-2005 06:41PM

does that mean the 48N nitelink will be gone?

BolBill · 01-02-2005 06:55PM

gandalf wrote:

LOL forgot about the 48A being discontinued

Nice one Dublin Bus, it would have made more sense to leave it running and see what additional business they would pick up from the shopping centre for 6 months and review it then :rolleyes:

Also didn't realise the Main Street was going to be closed, and don't forget the old shopping centre has to be knocked and apartments to be built on the site, ie years more of chaos !!!

review it then ??? What you mean like a little bit of common sense...... Doesn't f-ing exist in this country

Seraphina · 01-02-2005 08:32PM

yeah im not too excited about this bloody shopping centre either, and lose the 48a? it goes right by my house!

that sucks ass, its just going to make the traffic even worse, as if the new shopping centre and apartments weren't doing that already. there's no way they should have been allowed to build something that big in dundrum, the traffic is bad enough as it is, there's no way the roads can cope!
i guess no one gives a **** about the residents eh? we'll be confined to our houses cause the ****ing traffic will be preventing us from leaving our driveways!

Kappar · 01-02-2005 08:46PM

heggie wrote:

does that mean the 48N nitelink will be gone?

Oh my God I didn't think of that i better not be.

Also They need to run a feeder bus to the Luas if they're getting rid of the 48A. The Luas is too far from me to walk to.

gandalf · 01-02-2005 11:30PM

Don't worry folks just got an email from Tom Kitt saying that he has got Dublin Bus to reconsider there position. Isn't he great :rolleyes:

alleepally · 02-02-2005 12:32AM

Lemming wrote:

I actually want to level the place .... it's destroyed the village feel of Dundrum which is just .... dominated by this monstrosity.

And the traffic is going to be utterly, utterly f.u.b.a.r.

Totally agree. Just breaks my heart seeing it.

Flukey · 02-02-2005 12:54AM

I don't live far from Dundrum and it has radically changed in the past few years, and continues to do so. My area, Stillorgan, is undergoing some changes too. the shopping centre there, the oldest of its type in Ireland, is due for a major renovation. They've had planning permission for a few proposals refused, so it has been scaled down and awaits a response. There are other changes going on too. All our areas are changing.

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