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Ive been Conned

  • 15-10-2004 12:16PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,462 ✭✭✭


    I read this topic a few days ago: (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=190620&page=1&pp=20&highlight=blanchardstown), I said I'd never fall for it.. but guess what, I did. Yesterday morning I was in the same car park as that topic, between Argos and the Motorway store in Blanch. At 11:20am I was approached by an Italian in a '04 D 27674' Mercedes Benz. I was in my Van cleaning it out after buying some equipment from Motorway. He asked me to go over to him and he explained he was an Italian sales agent trying to sell Leather Jackets. He explained that he was going back to Italy tomorrow but he would have to pay taxes on these jackets if he flys home, so he was trying to sell off the jackets at bargain price to avoid these taxes.

    Anyway at this time I taught no way, he's a con but then he started showing me all his info, where his Irish business partner was based in Co Kildare, he showed me his passport and well, his leather suitcase. He really looked the part. He had designer gear on, shirt tie, designer glasses, a Tan etc.....

    All this started to convince me that maybe, just maybe he is telling the truth here (you don’t see knackers going round in 04 mercs) He said if I bought one jacket, I'd get two others for free. The Jackets were all in high quality bags, the smell of leather was strong, even had spare buttons and a certificate of authenticity.... He even got his lighter and put a flame to one of the suede jackets to prove its quality.

    At this point I remembered this topic and decided to buy one of the jackets, but I personally would check the jackets myself, and then put them into my van, lock the van and then pay the man. He agreed, so I went ahead and gave him the money. I was half expecting his Italian accent to change into a Finglas accent and for him to pull out a knife, but he was happy, I was happy and that was that. I taught I found a bargain until I got home, went on the internet and found this story from New Zealand which sounds very similar to mine


    "Police are warning New Zealanders to be on the lookout for people peddling ‘leather jackets’ after receiving numerous complaints and enquiries throughout NZ over the past four months.

    Police have established that an Italian male has imported a container load of Italian branded jackets at the price of between $16 - $24 per jacket.

    His associates then travel around the country targeting small businesses. The scam begins with ‘salespeople’ telling prospective buyers that they have attended a leather expo or conference in New Zealand and are flying out of the country shortly. They do not wish to run the risk of paying for over-weight baggage and will offer the prospective buyer a special deal for their remaining leather jackets at cost price"


    OKay, I'm young and I fell for it. I guess the best teacher is experience. I have learnt so I'm just spreading the word about my experience so that others may avoid it.

    My brothers a gard, and he's checking out the reg. If I find that the car was rented, I can contact the rental company and find who was renting the car at the time. Of course the conman could of given false info to the rental company but I'm going to have a go at getting my cash back.

    Although the jackets are nice ....

    This seems to be on the increase as my father, of all people was approached on Dollymount beech by an Italian selling jackets. Luckly he didnt fall for it as I did

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    So how much did you spend?
    If the jackets are nice, then its not the end of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    So how much did you spend?
    If the jackets are nice, then its not the end of the world.
    yeah at least you actually got something out of it that you can use!
    Some unsavoury-character-type tried to sell me a cam-corder once. Told me it was worth a grand and I can have it for 200 quid. I said no thanks, so he lowered it to 100, then to 60. Eventually he drove off when he realised I didn't want his piece of metal with nothing inside it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    it probably was a camcorder....

    a stolen camcorder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭impr0v


    I don't really see the con. You got two 'nice' jackets for what you considered a bargain, before you found out the cost price of them on the net. The jackets haven't turned out to be polythene or ripped at the seams have they?

    Am i missing something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Well at least you got the jackets and not a couple of cartons of milk.
    Are they good quality?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    at least you know they're fire-retardant, imagine the possiblities for irresponsible fun!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Prozium


    Oh sweet jeybus,


    When will people learn not to buy things from the boot of a car (unless it's some really good drugs!!).

    Dodgy man + nice car + really good bargain = too good to be true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    At the end of the day you didn't get a milk can, you paid over the odds for some jackets. Sales people do the same to you in shops so it's not much different. As David Brent once said if a saleman is struggling he doesn't sell his car, he goes out and buys a new one. The guy may have looked the part, that's all part of his sales pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Er... I'm not sure I see the con! You checked the jackets out, put them in your van and then paid the man an obviously good price - I say obviously because you bought them and obviously thought the price was good.

    You have what you bought. So where's the con exactly? Or are they fake leather or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    "Police are warning New Zealanders to be on the lookout for people peddling ‘leather jackets’ after receiving numerous complaints and enquiries throughout NZ over the past four months.

    Police have established that an Italian male has imported a container load of Italian branded jackets at the price of between $16 - $24 per jacket.

    His associates then travel around the country targeting small businesses. The scam begins with ‘salespeople’ telling prospective buyers that they have attended a leather expo or conference in New Zealand and are flying out of the country shortly. They do not wish to run the risk of paying for over-weight baggage and will offer the prospective buyer a special deal for their remaining leather jackets at cost price"

    You got the jackets?
    Were they the same jackets he showed you?
    Doesn't sound like much of a con, more like a business deal. The only thing is he may not be declaring VAT etc, but thats not your problem. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    it probably was a camcorder....

    a stolen camcorder.
    it might well have been, didn't want to take the chance though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    How much did you pay for the "buy one jackeet and get 2 free then?"
    Are they actually real leather or imitation or what?
    I have read the post twice and I can't see the con?

    Seeing as everybody (on here) knows what's going on in the Retail Park,
    why don't the cops do one of their undercover operations?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I don't see a con here. The real con is when you buy the same jackets in a shop and pay 200 or 300 euros for them. What you paid is typically the sort of wholesale price the shops pay for them. The markup on shoes and leather goods in this country is nothing short of criminal. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    okidoki987 wrote:
    Seeing as everybody (on here) knows what's going on in the Retail Park,
    why don't the cops do one of their undercover operations?
    that would mean they would have to do some work then!!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    What was your Father doing on "Dollymount Beech"? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165,998 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I am confused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭tribble


    cheesedude wrote:
    I am confused.

    Same...

    you bought some nice jackets from a nice Italian bloke for a bargain price and you now feel ripped off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,808 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago in the Superquinn carpark in Limerick. Got 3 lovely high quality jackets for €150. 1 regular leather jacket, 1 leather bomber jacket, and 1 brown suede jacket. I was suspicious, but he seemed convincing (nice new car, nice suit, tan, italian accent). Exact same story (didn't want to pay extra in the airport etc.)

    I tried on the jackets, liked what I saw, went to ATM to get the money. When I got back to him, he had the jackets packed away in a plastic bag. Alarm bells started ringing, so still being highly suspicious, I had a look at them again. They were fine, so I handed over the cash, and that was that.

    Did a google when I got back, saw that it was a common enough practise, and that the jackets were probably stolen. Sure, I was naive, but no-one got hurt, and I got some nice jackets out of it.

    Ando - your situation is nothing like Astraclub's story in Blanchardstown. He was robbed. You weren't. You got a good deal, probably stolen goods, but nobody got hurt...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,462 ✭✭✭ando


    I feel ripped off because I payed €320 for 3 designer jackets which turned out to be not what he said they were. He was promoting Alta Moda as a gucci brand, Alta Moda being the name of the jackets, each jacket costing over €500, he was even telling me the buttons cost €70 each


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    I can get info on that car if you want and do a job..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,462 ✭✭✭ando


    lol lenny thanks for offer :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    €320 !!?!?!?!

    :eek:

    I'd be pissed if I spent that much. You must have wanted a leather jacket really badly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    That's not cheap even for 3 jackets?
    You could buy a jacket in a shop for nearly that.
    Must take a trip up to Blanchardstown Retail Park and see what else is on offer?
    I'm looking for a 42" LCD screen, how much should I bring with me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Prozium


    I feel cheated because I paid €1.35 for a bottle of Diet Coke this morning.

    I gladly handed over the money and drank the coke, but I feel hard done by.

    Oh woe is me . ;)


    Maybe I'll start a tread about my Diet Coke !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭mycroft


    ando wrote:
    I feel ripped off because I payed €320 for 3 designer jackets which turned out to be not what he said they were. He was promoting Alta Moda as a gucci brand, Alta Moda being the name of the jackets, each jacket costing over €500, he was even telling me the buttons cost €70 each

    Bloke was in a black bmw?

    Tried the same stunt with me last year.

    I hate to say this but there is very little you can do. You purchased the goods, and recieved the goods. The price you paid is irrelevant. You may claim that they were overvalued, but the guy can say you got what you paid for, a italian designer jacket.

    The Gardaí could prosecute him for trading without a licence, and you might get a chance to take him to the small claims court and get your money back, but he'll properly just change address and carry on as always.

    Once again. If it looks too good to be true it probably is too good to be true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Interceptor


    I buy stuff I don't need all the time but I would draw the line at THREE leather jackets. Thats like buying five electric tin-openers only not as useful. I came across the same scam in a truckstop in the UK - same story, rental car documents, business cards, the lot, and even though I bargained him down to £80stg for the three jackets, I pretended I was broke and he drove off giving out about 'tight Irish'.

    At least you have three nice crimbo presents for your bling bling mates who appreciate flame retardant fashion. And lets be honest, being trendy never goes out of style.

    'c


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Did nobody ever buy the "genuine" nike runners or "genuine" levi jeans at that little market just off Henry St beside the Ilac centre ? The only difference I see here is that you get an italian accent in a BMW instead of a northside accent in a lite-ace.

    Maybe there should be some type of licensing system for money users, just like cars. You have to pass a theory test to show you have a rough concept or what money is and how it works before being allowed to go out and buy stuff (under supervision of a fully licensed spender of course). Then you need to do a practical test where they follow you around and make sure all your transactions are conducted safely and within the rules of common sense.

    You could even get companies to insure you against being ripped off. The only thing is they'd probably charge more each year than being ripped off would actually cost and people who buy stuff out of the back of cars in parking lots would drive up premiums for the rest of us young male spenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Interceptor


    stevenmu wrote:
    You could even get companies to insure you against being ripped off. The only thing is they'd probably charge more each year than being ripped off would actually cost and people who buy stuff out of the back of cars in parking lots would drive up premiums for the rest of us young male spenders.


    Wow - I though I had an over-active sarcasm gland but it looks like I could learn a thing or two.

    'c



    New Thread:::I'VE BEEN CONNED _ I JUST BOUGHT ALL MY GROCERIES IN SUPERQUINN....??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭bus77


    I came across the same scam in a truckstop in the UK - same story, rental car documents, business cards, the lot, and even though I bargained him down to £80stg for the three jackets, I pretended I was broke and he drove off giving out about 'tight Irish'.

    LOL! Nicely done :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    maybe this should be moved to the rip off ireland forum?


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