What have you tried...

Blub2k4 · 13-10-2004 10:53AM

Matthewthebig wrote:

What's really creepy are the dealers that soak the hash in heroin to make it physically addictive. The "gear" can still be used so the price is the same.

I dont know where you heard that crock of sh1t but in any case that's all it is, heroin commands a higher price and hash or marijuana dont even contain opium although some people think that it does (sometimes), they are incorrect. When opiates are smoked they are not smoked in exactly the same way as hash is, they are boiled and the resultant steam is inhaled, this is not the same as smoking exactly. If you were to put heroin or opium in hash then the cigarette papers would go all brown and oily and the joint would look strange and probably fall apart from being moist.
Someone has been telling you porkie pies in any case.
Why would they sell the heroin under price?
There is quite often ketamin in bad soap hash in Ireland but NEVER has heroin/opiates been found adulterating hash it would be too expensive for the dealers and if it was it would be a speciality and not a stealth move as the hash could be sold for 2 to 3 times the normal price.
File this under urban myths.

grasshopper · 13-10-2004 11:10AM

I reckon it’ s good to give everything a go once if not twice. Feel some of the love form the sixties man.

Dave · 13-10-2004 11:18AM

woosaysdan wrote:

i was addicted to chubba chumps before had to go cold thurky on it hardest thing i ever did

I hear that. My habit was sometimes as much as 2 euro a day. Cola flavour. *sigh* tough times.

Other than that I put down shrooms and weed/hash.

Gurgle · 13-10-2004 11:18AM

Blub2k4 wrote:

There is quite often ketamin in bad soap hash in Ireland .

:eek:
Source ?

Blub2k4 · 13-10-2004 11:24AM

Gurgle wrote:

:eek:
Source ?

Ever heard of the stuff in Cork called Horse? So called cos it has horse tranquliser in it. It's all they can do to make it potent after the oils have been washed out to make hash oil.

My sources are pretty good but not verifiable.

ro_chez · 13-10-2004 11:32AM

Matthewthebig wrote:

What's really creepy are the dealers that soak the hash in heroin to make it physically addictive. The "gear" can still be used so the price is the same.

Aaahahahahaha, jesus I nearly fell of my chair when I read that..

alantc · 13-10-2004 01:45PM

Lenny wrote:

Looking at that, a dangeriously ammount of people have taken acid/mushrooms
it would hvae been better to split them into two, would like to see how many people would fail a spinal tap..

More bullchit. The oldest and most common.

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=189

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=160

Onless you've read it, it's probably not true.

Agent Smith · 13-10-2004 01:49PM

i used to have a major addiction to Wine gums....

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 02:38PM

I've a mate who's addicted to lip balm. He gets through a stick a week and wakes up in the night craving a fix. It's the strangest one I've come across.

growler · 13-10-2004 02:42PM

I never heard of anyone putting ketamin in hash , like heroin the K is worth a lot more as K than it would be in a bar of soap , and as you can't smoke ketamin anyway i cant see how it would work. Never heard of hash called horse in cork either.

I had seen some (what I was told were) green opium crysals in some hash years ago, but never since.

The heroin in hash claim is an urban myth afaik.

Blub2k4 · 13-10-2004 03:00PM

Have a look here

http://www.ukcia.org/activism/soapbar.htm

One of the pollutants mentioned is ketamine.

Veterinary ketamine is not that expensive to buy, it appears that it is available over the counter in Spain.

<edit> guess what country is next to Morocco and also which most of Irish soapbar travels through, strangely enough it is Spain. Remember Mitchell and all the Gilligan related scumbags sodded off, well they all almost to a man are holed up in Spain.

Matthewthebig · 13-10-2004 06:32PM

Blub2k4 wrote:

I dont know where you heard that crock of sh1t but in any case that's all it is, heroin commands a higher price and hash or marijuana dont even contain opium although some people think that it does (sometimes), they are incorrect. When opiates are smoked they are not smoked in exactly the same way as hash is, they are boiled and the resultant steam is inhaled, this is not the same as smoking exactly. If you were to put heroin or opium in hash then the cigarette papers would go all brown and oily and the joint would look strange and probably fall apart from being moist.
Someone has been telling you porkie pies in any case.
Why would they sell the heroin under price?
There is quite often ketamin in bad soap hash in Ireland but NEVER has heroin/opiates been found adulterating hash it would be too expensive for the dealers and if it was it would be a speciality and not a stealth move as the hash could be sold for 2 to 3 times the normal price.
File this under urban myths.

I vaguely know the guy who does it. He soaks the resin in the heroin. and as i said the heroin can still be used. i also heard it off someone else who is also a dealer. Thats what I've been told and i know someone who bought the heroin soaked hash off the second guy

Dr. Loon · 13-10-2004 06:45PM

Matthewthebig wrote:

I vaguely know the guy who does it. He soaks the resin in the heroin. and as i said the heroin can still be used. i also heard it off someone else who is also a dealer. Thats what I've been told and i know someone who bought the heroin soaked hash off the second guy

I still don't believe you. It doesn't make any sense to do that. Most "stories" going around about drugs are untrue, and it's these stupid myths and scare stories that really píss me off.

Matthewthebig · 13-10-2004 08:59PM

Dr. Loon wrote:

I still don't believe you. It doesn't make any sense to do that. Most "stories" going around about drugs are untrue, and it's these stupid myths and scare stories that really píss me off.

I've talked to the guy.

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 10:23PM

A friend of mine's brother and his mates have a bit of a habit of smoking spliffs laced with heroin. They call them A-bombs. I think it's more expensive than the normal buzz and they know what they're getting when they buy it.

Matthewthebig · 13-10-2004 10:27PM

pickarooney wrote:

A friend of mine's brother and his mates have a bit of a habit of smoking spliffs laced with heroin. They call them A-bombs. I think it's more expensive than the normal buzz and they know what they're getting when they buy it.

Finally some one who agrees with me. One of the guys who sells this stuff doesn't tell his clinetele though

Dr. Loon · 13-10-2004 11:24PM

Matthewthebig wrote:

I've talked to the guy.

Oh Jesus well then!! Sorry. I didn't know you'd talked to the guy!! :rolleyes:

I've talked to you!? If I was to believe you I might go around telling people the same! Seriously?

If I was a dealer I would see no reason to "dip" or "coat" hash in heroin other than to waste my own supply for no real reason. There is no real reason to try and make hash addictive subversively. People will always smoke or use it.

I have never come across this practice in my life, therefore I don't believe it exists. I hope some sane minded person can back me up. Although I don't really need it. You keep on telling people it exists... No skin off my nose.

Oh, by the way. Backup isn't "A friend of my friends, Uncles GrandDad's Ma" just doesn't cut it with me. Sorry.

Blub2k4 · 14-10-2004 08:52AM

Matthewthebig wrote:

I vaguely know the guy who does it. He soaks the resin in the heroin. and as i said the heroin can still be used. i also heard it off someone else who is also a dealer. Thats what I've been told and i know someone who bought the heroin soaked hash off the second guy

Sorry man this is a lie. Heroin is a brown powder(turkish/afghani anyway, chinese can be white) that cannot be dissolved in water without the addition of ascorbic acid or citric acid and then it needs boiling, so either asco or lemon juice is added to it, how does he then get the heroin back to a powder state to sell?
Rubbish outright rubbish.
If you can explain how he gets around the above then fair play but NOT a chance in hell this is happening.
THIS IS AN URBAN MYTH.

Blub2k4 · 14-10-2004 08:59AM

Matthewthebig wrote:

Finally some one who agrees with me. One of the guys who sells this stuff doesn't tell his clinetele though

He's not backing up your claim, there is a difference between sprinkling a little brown into a spliff and soaking the hash in smack. I have heard of heroin in a joint before but the point is that the joint is such a different spliff to a normal one that a user would know, of course these guys know why their papers go all sticky and brown and also why they get a sickly bitter heroin taste in their mouths.
Heroin has an unmistakeable taste and it is BITTER, really really bitter, in fact the strong stuff will make you gag it is so bitter.

There was a rumour put about that there was heroin in pills too, ecstacy pills that is, according to the Dutch testing centres it has never once been found in a pill they have tested. Some people still talk about scaggy pills, which are actually normally just strong MDMA concentrations.

I heard of heroin laced pills in the mid-nineties in Galway called "Party Timers" or P.T's they allegedly contained it but it was a SELLING Point and the price was £25 and not the usual £15 that pills were costing at the time.

Dr. Loon · 14-10-2004 10:08AM

Someone talking sense at last.

Blub2k4 · 14-10-2004 01:35PM

growler wrote:

I had seen some (what I was told were) green opium crysals in some hash years ago, but never since.

Opium is a brown sticky tack not unlike pakistani black hashish, not green crystals. Someone on opium or heroin has pinpricked pupils and this is unmistakeable if you know the look, hash smokers dont have it.

Joycey · 14-10-2004 06:29PM

Mordeth wrote:

matthew ..

check out www.erowid.org and look at all the wealth of info they got there on acid

And pretty much every other drug you care to research. Has anyone else ever heard of datura or toad venom? I think these would be cool to try, strongest halucinogens on earth I think.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 14-10-2004 06:34PM

no... but now I'm curious

i want to try peyote.. they had them in amsterdam for about 30 quid for a full one... god damnit I wanted.. I WANTED BAD

Joycey · 14-10-2004 06:35PM

Blub2k4 wrote:

There was a rumour put about that there was heroin in pills too, ecstacy pills that is, according to the Dutch testing centres it has never once been found in a pill they have tested. Some people still talk about scaggy pills, which are actually normally just strong MDMA concentrations.

I heard of heroin laced pills in the mid-nineties in Galway called "Party Timers" or P.T's they allegedly contained it but it was a SELLING Point and the price was £25 and not the usual £15 that pills were costing at the time.

I think you can get them in some places in America too but Im not sure about that.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 14-10-2004 06:37PM

i've always been told that speckled pills have a bit of heroin in them.. what's the story with the speckles so if it ain't heroin? It's a strange thing..

Joycey · 14-10-2004 06:44PM

I dunno but ive always been told that they give a kind of dirtier buzz. I have never really felt it but thats what i was told. I know they are sposed to be better. The only speckled ive ever tried were chunky speckled mitsus and they were the same as any others really

opr · 14-10-2004 08:48PM

Really think that Acid and Mushrooms should have been separated. I have taken Mushrooms a few times and wouldn't consider them as dangerous as Acid or that thier effect compare.
(Maybe thats competely wrong and if it is please someone correct me.)

Took acid for this first time very recently and i was amazed at it effects not only on me but the people around me and how each persons reaction was so different. I have tried most everything else except for H but nothing i had ever taken before prepared me for taking acid. It was a night to remember thats for sure. 7 of us did it for the first time together and we all had a good trip. Not sure that i would do it again kinda happy at the moment to say i have experinced it and thats that. It was just such .... only way i can describe it " Head **** " i mean that in the sense it plays with your mind and that your mind takes some perverted pleasure in it

What did everyone else think the first time .... good/bad ..... what you expected/not what you expected ? Did you do it again ?

OPR

eoin_f · 14-10-2004 09:04PM

RE. speckled pills, always guaranteed to make you gurn or chew, is clumps of MDMA crystals that are affected by plumping materials thus the colour effect, always insist on daz!! pretty much the cleaner the better, noboy like talking to a bulldog chewing on wasps, not a real charmer for the opposite sex!!

is notthat unusual for many to have tries all of the above as it makes it easier to try other drugs once you have tried a few (speaking from personal experiance) used to deal hash a few years ago whilst in a smoking haze, well to defing that used to get a quantity for myself and a few friends, always made it cheaper by cutting out the middle man, salvia duorum is one to try, freely available in some sex shops here.

got bored with it all a few years ago, taking too much outa me etc, dont even smoke no more as it only makes me too tired.

am dead curios though as what will be the drugs of choice in years to come i.e. what i will have to worry about with my kids or grandkids, pretty scary thought once you consider the vast variety and availability of whats about now.

E.

FruitLover · 14-10-2004 09:15PM

I'd try anything twice, bar incest and heroin.

The first times for those were enough!

Blub2k4 · 15-10-2004 08:17AM

Mordeth wrote:

i've always been told that speckled pills have a bit of heroin in them.. what's the story with the speckles so if it ain't heroin? It's a strange thing..

I dunno but eoin_f's explanation could be correct, pure MDMA is a very very light yellow powder, so light in fact that it looks white unless you have it on a white background. I saw this when living in Germany in the 90's and it was sweeeet.

So really the only pure ones are if you remember the old doves and double/super doves, since then pretty much the lot of them are adulterated with some crap or other, MBDB, DOB, 2CB etc etc

I saw what was allegedly pure mdma here once but it was a block of powder that looked like a mini zip firelighter, with black specs in, was nice but not pure mdma as it was being sold.

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