[RANT]Is grammar something that only happens to other people?[/RANT]

Doper Than U · 13-10-2004 01:45PM

What really irritates me as well as the "their/there/they're" thing, is when people say "Should of" instead of "Should have". I mean WTF is that about??? It doesn't even make sense! Also along those lines is the combination of <insert adjective> and "then", for example : "Tom is bigger then Paul" or "chips are nicer then waffles" etc etc.

I'm in two minds about these kinds of mistakes. On the one hand I think "Don't be so pedantic", on the other hand I worry that the more people make these mistakes, the more acceptable they will become.

CuLT · 13-10-2004 01:47PM

Actually, now that I think about it, text speak doesn't annoy me nearly as much as wiggas and their associated slang, who are become increasingly numerous.

I've never trusted MS Word when it told me "Fragment - consider revising"

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Giblet · 13-10-2004 01:51PM

I could of went to the shop.
I should of went to the shop.

I SHOULD HAVE CASTRATED YOU WITH A RUSTY NAIL.
I COULD HAVE CASTRATED YOU, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR A RUSTY NAIL.

Jim · 13-10-2004 01:51PM

CuLT wrote:

Damn.

And shouldn't it be "spelt" and not "spelled"?

Tekkit CuLT.

God I hate these threads.

Blub2k4 · 13-10-2004 01:57PM

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

And shouldn't it be "spelt" and not "spelled"?

Tekkit CuLT.

God I hate these threads.

spell1 Audio pronunciation of "spelt" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spl)
v. spelled, or spelt (splt) spell·ing, spells
v. tr.

1. To name or write in order the letters constituting (a word or part of a word).
2. To constitute the letters of (a word): These letters spell animal.
3. To add up to; signify: Their unwise investment could spell financial ruin.

www.dictionary.com

CuLT · 13-10-2004 01:57PM

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

And shouldn't it be "spelt" and not "spelled"?

Tekkit CuLT.

God I hate these threads.

Actually, as far as I'm aware, they're interchangeable

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I'm not fond of them either, but they have a way of sucking you in

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darkdreamangel · 13-10-2004 02:02PM

I'll apologize now before I go on for any mistake I make. This is my first thread to read ever, did anyone consider the fact that some people have reading and writing difficulties. I do I'm dyslexic I try very hard to get it right but sometimes my head just blanks the mistake and I carry on without noticing.

darkdreamangel · 13-10-2004 02:04PM

also, nobody's perfect without their imperfections

Alun · 13-10-2004 02:06PM

Add to all the above ...

1) "sight" versus "site"

2) The constant use of "amount of" instead of "number of", as in "There was a huge amount of people at the concert"

3) My all-time pet hate - inappropriate adjectives such as "cheap prices", "hot temperatures", "fast speeds" etc.

Pataman · 13-10-2004 02:22PM

Is there room for me on the soapbox also?
Nobody has mentioned the famous(infamous) Irishism of "I seen it" or "I done it". This sends me into orbit. i notice it all the time in conversation with people and now I notice it creeping into typing aswell.
While I am here, I also want to mention abbreviations/acronyms. I notice on boards there are LMFAO and ROFLMAO to mention but two. What the heck do these mean? Am I the only one who hates this practice?

Steps down from soapbox...

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 02:23PM

acrowhatnow?

embee · 13-10-2004 02:26PM

darkdreamangel wrote:

I'll apologize now before I go on for any mistake I make. This is my first thread to read ever, did anyone consider the fact that some people have reading and writing difficulties. I do I'm dyslexic I try very hard to get it right but sometimes my head just blanks the mistake and I carry on without noticing.

darkdreamangel = drshortass tbh.

climaxer · 13-10-2004 02:26PM

This site is very good for helping people learn/improve on their typing, grammer and spelling. I have around 80 words and rarely make a mistake. Worth checking it out if you want to learn to touch type as this is how I learned with a similar program quite a few years ago:

http://www.learn2type.com/index.cfm?action=TypingTest

Jim · 13-10-2004 02:26PM

Everyone should count how many times they say the word "like" in a sentance when talking to peope.

Trojan · 13-10-2004 02:26PM

It's the consistant offenders that annoy, not the once off typos.

My personal hate is the "could of" one...

meepmeep · 13-10-2004 02:27PM

ok, my turn!

I hate it when people interchange quiet and quite. For example:

"Its really quite in here" or "yeah he ran quiet quick".

I have a friend who insists that its ok to use either word because the spellchecker doens't show them as being spelt wrong. For the love of God :rolleyes:

Jim · 13-10-2004 02:27PM

meepmeep wrote:

ok, my turn!

I hate it when people interchange quiet and quite. For example:

"Its really quite in here" or "yeah he ran quiet quick".

I have a friend who insists that its ok to use either word because the spellchecker doens't show them as being spelt wrong. For the love of God :rolleyes:

He / She is a moron.

meepmeep · 13-10-2004 02:28PM

Yes. Yes she is.

Dr. Loon · 13-10-2004 02:31PM

climaxer wrote:

This site is very good for helping people learn/improve on their typing, grammer and spelling. I have around 80 words and rarely make a mistake. Worth checking it out if you want to learn to touch type as this is how I learned with a similar program quite a few years ago:

http://www.learn2type.com/index.cfm?action=TypingTest

Doesn't seem to have helped with your ability to spell grammar though!?

This thread is just going to turn into constant píss take after píss take of people's grammar/spelling. You should never dare question someone else's grammar or spelling if your own isn't perfect.

Embee - amazingly I was thinking the same thing!

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 02:31PM

Trojan wrote:

It's the consistant offenders that annoy, not the once off typos.

My personal hate is the "could of" one...

Do you often write "consistant"?

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 02:33PM

meepmeep wrote:

ok, my turn!

I have a friend who insists that its ok to use either word because the spellchecker doens't show them as being spelt wrong. For the love of God :rolleyes:

The spellchecker won't show this baby up either, but guess what?

OK, this is getting childish. Sorry.

darkdreamangel · 13-10-2004 02:38PM

embee wrote:

darkdreamangel = drshortass tbh.

how so?? firstly i'm not secondly how do u think this?

pickarooney · 13-10-2004 02:40PM

She posted a link to her website, where she calls herself darkdreamangel.
Amazing coincidence, no?

The Sweeper · 13-10-2004 02:40PM

This is funny actually, you could take this whole thread and use it as a script for my working day.

I watched the DVD of Shattered Glass over the weekend, that's the film about the young journalist who used to write for the New Republic and fabricated over half the articles he submitted. There's a scene in the film where Marty Peretz, the Editor-In-Chief, has all of the journalists cooped up in a boardroom, circling every comma in the previous issue. He maintains that commas should always come in pairs and is trying to point out all of the comma splices in the edition.

The New Republic Editor walks in on the exercise and phones Marty, basically roaring at him that it's a pointless waste of time and he wont let Marty bully his staff and so on. I suppose editing's a combination of knowing what should be corrected, and recognising what can be left alone.

As for the whole idea that you can't criticise someone else's writing unless yours is perfect - that's a crock. No matter who you are you'll make a mistake at some point when you're writing something. That's why there are editors. And depending on the situation, the edited document will often go back to the writer, or around the houses one more time to make sure the editor hasn't made mistakes.

I can't understand the people who get annoyed by someone pointing out a grammatical error. What's wrong with that?

darkdreamangel · 13-10-2004 02:42PM

acctualy i use dark angel but changed it to darkdream angel for this site since it was taken

Jim · 13-10-2004 02:43PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

This is funny actually, you could take this whole thread and use it as a script for my working day.

I watched the DVD of Shattered Glass over the weekend, that's the film about the young journalist who used to write for the New Republic and fabricated over half the articles he submitted. There's a scene in the film where Marty Peretz, the Editor-In-Chief, has all of the journalists cooped up in a boardroom, circling every comma in the previous issue. He maintains that commas should always come in pairs and is trying to point out all of the comma splices in the edition.

The New Republic Editor walks in on the exercise and phones Marty, basically roaring at him that it's a pointless waste of time and he wont let Marty bully his staff and so on. I suppose editing's a combination of knowing what should be corrected, and recognising what can be left alone.

As for the whole idea that you can't criticise someone else's writing unless yours is perfect - that's a crock. No matter who you are you'll make a mistake at some point when you're writing something. That's why there are editors. And depending on the situation, the edited document will often go back to the writer, or around the houses one more time to make sure the editor hasn't made mistakes.

I can't understand the people who get annoyed by someone pointing out a grammatical error. What's wrong with that?

Dammit, its perfect.

meepmeep · 13-10-2004 02:44PM

pickarooney wrote:

The spellchecker won't show this baby up either, but guess what?

OK, this is getting childish. Sorry.

Yes it is. The point of my post was that she insists thats it's fine because it won't show up in the spellchecker. I was disagreeing with that logic, so why use it to show up a mistake I made?

][cEMAN** · 13-10-2004 02:50PM

I suppose it depends if they want to receive criticism or not. Some people probably just want to post up a reply rather than offering up a piece of work for someone to edit. Therefore it is quite elitist, and most people will take it as a personal insult.

Like I said, if you don't like txt speak or l337 speak then try to get a minimum standard of writing enforced through the mods. If you don't feel strongly enough about this, or you can't get it pushed through, then you're best to leave it well alone. Otherwise as shown in this thread, it will turn into an argument and "i'm better than you" thread. That's hardly helpful, and those who use l337 and txt speak won't give a flying four letter word about it - they'll just continue to use it.

ixoy · 13-10-2004 02:56PM

I can't understand the people who get annoyed by someone pointing out a grammatical error. What's wrong with that?

Well it's quite simple in my case - the more errors that are pointed, the more work I have to do correcting them. If they're not pointed out, I get to spend more time on Boards

They can be incredibly fussy too. Sometimes I use tautologies and sometimes I don't but they'll always remove them on me...

GreeBo · 13-10-2004 03:00PM

embee wrote:

darkdreamangel = drshortass tbh.

drshortass is the worst txt offender I have had the misfortune to read.
It takes longer to type half of that txt stuff because you have to think up some stupid spelling rather than just type the damn word correctly, and as for having to read gems such as "smurff" rather than Smirnoff... :eek:

[RANT]Is grammar something that only happens to other people?[/RANT]

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