Is it legal to have a club over say 20's...?Worst reason given for being refused..?

Alana · 2004-10-03 00:21:43

Right I'm fairly petite and am constantly gettting asked for ID (even when i make the effort of wearing a really low cut top and a short skirt..thats called a tuesday..you should see what a fridays like.. :D ..sigh...joking by the way i do not dress as a slapper..well..)so I dont really get bothered by it but the other…

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Right I'm fairly petite and am constantly gettting asked for ID (even when i make the effort of wearing a really low cut top and a short skirt..thats called a tuesday..you should see what a fridays like.. ..sigh...joking by the way i do not dress as a slapper..well..)so I dont really get bothered by it but the other night I was heading into a certain establishment and I was told that because I was not quite 20 I wasnt allowed in..to me that seems a load of b*llix, why have the age at 20, why not 21...? And is it legal for them to do that...ok i suppose it's their club/bar and they can do what they like in some regards..

I'm glad i'm not a guy going out sometimes, i've seen the hassle it takes for actual nice guys to get into places just because there are some actul wombats out there who like to act the arse.

Anyway

Went out with one of my friends once, he was a decorator for a summer and had just finished a days work when i met him for a pint to give him a suit he asked me to pick up for him from a friend for a wedding or something. We headed to this pub and were refused in because of his shoes..so he promptly took out the fancy debs shoes out of the bag and changed his shoes on the street..the doorman laughed and let him in..

Whats the most ridiculous reason you've ever been given for not being allowed into a fine establishment...?

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#2 03-10-2004 01:25AM

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Alana wrote:

I was told that because I was not quite 20 I wasnt allowed in..to me that seems a load of b*llix, why have the age at 20, why not 21...?

but you still wouldnt have been allowed in if the age was 21,right?

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#3 03-10-2004 01:31AM

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strange this topic came up tonite.
i went into town tonite with some friends late and by the time i met them they were headin to the club.
so i didnt get a chance to get a drink.i walked up to the door of the place,everything was going grand,went up to the bouncer,he "roared" NO into my face and pushed me onto the road. i went up to him a few seconds later and asked him what the problem was? he turned round to me and told me " I dont like you, infact,i really dont like you so **** off,your barred for life" :eek:
i never even met him before and never go to the club?
w@nkers:(

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#4 03-10-2004 01:32AM

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flannerys in rathmines by any change.

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#5 03-10-2004 01:35AM

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no Bozos in Athlone.
Stay away.This town is a hole

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#6 03-10-2004 01:38AM

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friend of mine moving there soon. might head up for a weekend some time. see what the women are like. he is going to e working in the new aldi store.

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#7 03-10-2004 01:51AM

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Alana wrote:

Right I'm fairly petite and am constantly gettting asked for ID (even when i make the effort of wearing a really low cut top and a short skirt..thats called a tuesday..you should see what a fridays like.. ..sigh...)so I dont really get bothered by it but the other night I was heading into a certain establishment and I was told that because I was not quite 20 I wasnt allowed in..to me that seems a load of b*llix, why have the age at 20, why not 21...? And is it legal for them to do that...ok i suppose it's their club/bar and they can do what they like in some regards..

I'm glad i'm not a guy going out sometimes, i've seen the hassle it takes for actual nice guys to get into places just because there are some actul wombats out there who like to act the arse.

Anyway

Went out with one of my friends once, he was a decorator for a summer and had just finished a days work when i met him for a pint to give him a suit he asked me to pick up for him from a friend for a wedding or something. We headed to this pub and were refused in because of his shoes..so he promptly took out the fancy debs shoes out of the bag and changed his shoes on the street..the doorman laughed and let him in..

Whats the most ridiculous reason you've ever been given for not being allowed into a fine establishment...?

Sounds like the actions of one QBAR

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#8 03-10-2004 01:52AM

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Please read this post http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1947608&postcount=14 in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=190033 , not a week old.

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#9 03-10-2004 01:59AM

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The only thing that annoys me is that the laws state that the license holder is the person in charge of who enters the club not the bald-headed thugs who man the doors.

The stupidest reason i got was: no reason
as apparently:
"Under the Equality Act 2002 we dont have to give a reason, as that could be considered discrimination."

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#10 03-10-2004 02:10AM

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Best thing to do is to keep an eye out in the local papers and lodge an objection to their licence being renewed.

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#11 03-10-2004 02:13AM

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chrismon wrote:

,went up to the bouncer,he "roared" NO into my face and pushed me onto the road.

If he actually shoved you and you weren't inside the premises then you could actually report him to the gardai. He'd be allowed use reasonable force necessary to remove you from the establishment, but if you were standing on the footpath and hadn't entered the premises, then his actions towards you would be technically a form of an assault on you !

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#12 03-10-2004 02:15AM

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And I'm sure they would care. Deeply.

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#13 03-10-2004 02:18AM

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security on clubs/bars etc is 90% run by paramilitaries/criminal gangs, don't be concerned if the scum turn u away

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#14 03-10-2004 02:33AM

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TwoShedsJackson wrote:

And I'm sure they would care. Deeply.

They're obliged to take a note of and investigate any alleged assualts, and any complaints against a licensed establishment to the gardai are meant to be submitted for consideration when the licence next comes up for renewal.

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#15 03-10-2004 03:17AM

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Alana wrote:

....... i make the effort of wearing a really low cut top and a short skirt..thats called a tuesday..you should see what a fridays like.. ..sigh...

I am a person of little or no imagination, and as such, would need to see pictures of Tuesday and Friday attire to compare and contrast.

Post em up, lady.

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#16 03-10-2004 11:30AM

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Penfolds wrote:

If he actually shoved you and you weren't inside the premises then you could actually report him to the gardai. He'd be allowed use reasonable force necessary to remove you from the establishment, but if you were standing on the footpath and hadn't entered the premises, then his actions towards you would be technically a form of an assault on you !

there is a big court case coming up against them soon enough,i would have been in the front door and not on the footpath,so theres not alot i can do about it,ill prob end up getting a beating from a RaNdOm stranger if i reported him.

not to worried about them tho,new club opening in a few weeks anyway :cool:

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#17 03-10-2004 12:29PM

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my mate was refused from a dublin club because the boucer asked him his star sign (to check whether or not he knew the date of borth on his idea, trying to catch him out like) my mate gave the correct star signand was then refused entry to the club.

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#18 03-10-2004 05:02PM

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chrismon wrote:

there is a big court case coming up against them soon enough,i would have been in the front door and not on the footpath,so theres not alot i can do about it,ill prob end up getting a beating from a RaNdOm stranger if i reported him.

not to worried about them tho,new club opening in a few weeks anyway :cool:

Dunno anything about the court case but he's right in expecting a beating from a "random" stranger if he reported them. The bouncers in that particular club are practically all players with the Local AIB league division1 rugby team, in other words not guys you'd want on your trail.

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#19 03-10-2004 06:23PM

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Any 'fine establishment' that wont let me in automatically gets moved to my 'unfine' establishment list.

Qbar has been the scene of most of my incidents of random bouncer denials. Whelans once coz I was 'drunk' (after only 3 pints too!) after having just let 2 mates in who could barely stand. Female friend then harrased the bouncer for 10mins until he weakened and let me in. (I was standing and looking angelic for those 10mins). On the way in he muttered.....I'll be watching you.

To be fair tho Dublin bouncers are some of the more reasonable ones I have found. Especially since I have an english accent that causes them to scan the surrounds looking for the rest of my stag party

I also sometimes get a thoughtful look on me which can also be mistaken for vacant and/or drunk. :cool:

Alana have you ever been refused as a 'Tuesday' and come back as a 'Friday'??

I support Embee's call for evidence!

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#20 03-10-2004 06:41PM

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Wearing a short skirt and low cut top doesnt neccesarily get you in everywhere, it will in redz\coyote where the bouncers know you'll have money spent on you for showing a bit of leg.

In some places, Cafe en Seine etc they'l think "out of place"\skangerish without even looking past your clothes

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#21 03-10-2004 07:05PM

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ferdi wrote:

my mate was refused from a dublin club because the boucer asked him his star sign (to check whether or not he knew the date of borth on his idea, trying to catch him out like) my mate gave the correct star signand was then refused entry to the club.

Bouncer probably didn't know if it was right or not...

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#22 03-10-2004 08:03PM

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Quote "(even when i make the effort of wearing a really low cut top and a short skirt..thats called a tuesday..you should see what a fridays like.. ..sigh...joking by the way i do not dress as a slapper..well..)"

Right I'm going to make myself clear here for those of ye who dont have a sense of humour and dont get jokes :rolleyes:

..I don't always go out dressed like a slapper, very rarely would i combine two little items for many reasons 1) I know how easily it is for guys to get the wrong idea 2) I'm over 18, I'm 20 in a few mnths and I dont need to rely on my assests and nearly getting pneumonia to get into a club-thats what my age card is for, yes i am petite but i dont look like i'm 12! 3) I rarely go to places like coyote or Qbar because they either are full of underage kids(as i myself well know having been a regular there about 3 years ago..memories..), guys who will literally screw anything that walks, pretentious knob-heads-notably the latter, the drinks are way over-priced and its impossible to get a decent whiskey in there anyway.Once again I'm being humourous(i feel that i need to xplain myself here as several ppl find it difficult to not take things seriously all the time) and i dont mean to offend any regular of those establishments.

I just like to go out dancing every now and again in somewhere that isnt my usual watering hole, and find these places have a slightly strange if not haphazard door policy..

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#23 03-10-2004 08:24PM

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Alana wrote:

Right I'm going to make myself clear here for those of ye who dont have a sense of humour and dont get jokes :rolleyes:

..I don't always go out dressed like a slapper, very rarely would i combine two
little items for many reasons

Since mine is one of only 2 posts that referenced the Tuesday/Friday thing, I assume you have taken what was meant to be a continuation of the joke as an insult. I certainly never intended to imply you were a slapper. Apologies if thats how it came across.

Back kinda on topic - Went to Zanzibar for the first time in ages last night - whose bouncers have always been pretty good imo - when did the girls there get so young????

Best bouncer I've come across was at the harp in swords.

Roll up to door :
Bouncer : Have you been drinking?
Me : Havent had one yet.
(thinking here we go....*sigh*)
Bouncer : Well get in and get moving then!

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#24 03-10-2004 08:37PM

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Sweet i'm going to the harp in swords! Thanks secret squirl (cool name by the way) I've a rather thick neck(as far as digs@ my honour are concerned...a lot of short jokes have come my way over the years...sigh..) so I didnt take any offence..(mainly to a post that was 2 before my 2nd post)..

Working on posting pictures

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#25 03-10-2004 08:41PM

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Alana,

To answer your first question, clubs and pubs are allowed refuse people for being under 21 or under whatever age they say, but in order to do so the age limit must be clearly on display at the door.The was part of the act that came in last year, the idea is it has to be displayed or else its ageism.

But overall there is definitely no set of rules bouncers have to go by, now i'm suprised you got refused cause usually girls can just waltz right in, or at least get asked for ID alot less.
On saturday night me, spoirt and a few mates tried to get into D2 but got the usuall "21's only" rubbish.so we tried the odeon and we got a "23's only" response!! . Seeing as the night had already started going downhill we decided to keep with the trend and had to use complimentary pass's and go to Red Box!
We got in but i'd say we were at least 2 years older than everyone in there, My bro knows a guy who got in to redbox using his mates's expired passport which said he was 17!
It was pretty **** inside and i'd say the highlight of the night was probly breakin some moves to - "summer jam" and Usher - "yeah". Usually wouldn't even listen to the rubbish, but when in Rome...

The best policy about town is not to go in! Unless you like hassle from bouncers about your shoes, clothes, age etc..

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#26 03-10-2004 08:47PM

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you're actually gonna post your pics?
:rolleyes:

a lot of these posters will prolly have heart attacks...

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#27 03-10-2004 08:53PM

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Alana wrote:

Working on posting pictures

Sweet! Can usually be found in the harp Tuesday and Friday btw
Like your avatar and nick too - makes me think of Alannah Myles and the song Black Velvet (he says showing his age )

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#28 04-10-2004 12:46AM

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Pics?

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#29 04-10-2004 01:03AM

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On the note of this thread, what is the story concerning forms of id? from reading the actual acts etc. it seems to be that they have to accept "appropriate identification" which would appear to be defined as "national ID card, Passport, drivers license or form of ID from another EU state"

if this is true man are tesco getting a bollocking from me. ****.

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#30 04-10-2004 01:38AM

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I'm 6 foot 6, and have nearly never been refused entry. The only time I was refused, as because of the penknife attached to my chain. I removed it, and was then allowed in. I've worn combats (camo + german black), t-shirts, shirts, denim jackets, and "during the winter" my trenchcoat, into nightclubs. I mostly look down @ the bouncers, and I'm in no way heavily built, but I rarely get asked for ID. I've gone to a number of clubs in Dublin and Galway, and they usually just nod, and let me in.
Height sometimes works to your advantage :cool:

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#31 04-10-2004 12:34PM

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Seconding what was said about Qbar being ****. About 8 months ago my TKD club were going there on a night out, I was wearing a tie-dye low cut top, navy cords and boots and wasn't let in. I had ID (my passport, was 19 at the time) and hadn't had much to drink already (2 pints). Out of 16 of us (we didn't all go up as one big group btw) 3 of us were refused. None of us who were refused were dressed badly or had too much to drink and we all had ID.
I tend to get asked for ID when I'm out all the time. I'm 20, and just about look my age.

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