Who would you vote for?

rainbow kirby · 02-10-2004 10:00PM

Tbh Ralph Nader.
But if it helps get Bush out of the White House, it's gonna have to be Kerry.

Doper Than U · 02-10-2004 10:06PM

Also, its worth saying that they caught Bin Laden a few weeks after 9/11 but were ordered to let him go because they (Bush and the Military) would never get the funding to go to war on Iraq. Bin Laden was taken to america, and stayed with Bush, while there he thanked him for getting his family out of america after 9/11.

There's alot more to this story, anyone who wants to know the full details can check the September edition of Vanity Fair magazine, with Reese Witherspoon on the front. The article was written by an american soldier who was there for the whole thing... I don't have the article (I read it in a doctors office) and would love to get a copy of it. If anyone has it, could they pm me about it?

How anyone can feel safe when a half witted, dictatorial oaf is in charge of weapons of mass destruction is beyond me.

"There ought to be limits to freedom" George W. Bush, May 1999.

daveirl · 02-10-2004 10:45PM

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Doper Than U · 02-10-2004 11:20PM

Actually, what you said right underneath my first quote is pretty much what happened. They found him, were ordered not to take him, Bin Laden needed medical attention and gave them an ultimatum "take me to the US and give me medical attention or I'll announce to the world that you had me and let me go". So they took him and harboured him in a nice cushy house in America. They probably will "capture" him just before the election too... To be perfectly honest, this sounded so bloody far fetched to me I had to read the article three times, then I searched for disclaimer saying that it was all a big joke.. As I said, I am just paraphrasing the article from the Septmeber issue of Vanity Fair magazine.. I'm not here to make up conspiracy theories or anything of the sort. If I had the article I would post it. Hopefully somone will have it.

As to Bush being dictatorial, well let me put it like this, Bush got into presidency by lying, cheating and stealing. He went against the DEMOCRATIC decision made by the people of America to have Al Gore as president. Kerry, if he gets in, will have done so fairly. Also, its unfair to assume that Kerry will abuse his postion as Bush has done. Look at the difference between america when Clinton was president, and now, when Bush is President. They seem like two different countries. All Clinton did was get his d**k sucked.. Bush has knowingly killed thousands of innocent people. I'd have Clinton back in a shot... I couldn't care less about his personal life.

Perhaps another Bushism, just for fun "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier...just so long as I'm the dictator."

Edited to note that it seems the US edition of Vanity Fair magazine did NOT run this article, and instead chose the topic of Bush vs Gore, the truth about the election. Not terribly surprised. America prizes freedom of speech above nearly all its doctrines, and yet they censor anything remotely threatening, eg Michael Moore's "Stupid White Men".

Penfolds · 03-10-2004 12:36AM

I'm reading a really good book at the moment called "House of Bush, House of Saud" which detail show close the US and Saudi's are.

Find it hard to believe that Bin Laden would actually request to go to the US for medical treatment...Imagine how many people would HAVE to know about that .....Pilots, secret service or whoever were protecting him, medical staff.....Can you not imagine one of these people trying to take a pop at him or accidentally giving him the wrong/ too much medication as pay back for the WTC disaster ??????? They'd be declared a bloody national hero in the US.

I do believe they'll suddenly capture him or some high ranking member before the election.

My best bush quote during the debate was when they talked about the US pulling out of the International Criminal Court, as he said that hedidn't believe in the idea of a court in the Hague that can charge US soldiers or diplomats with crimes.
Meanwhile he has "illegal enemy combatanats" (about 700 now, apparently 10 of which are children) locked up in Guantamano Bay where they're not subject to the Genenva convention because they're technically not prisoners of war and they're not being held on US soil (even though they US have a l0ong term lease on that part of Cuba dpon't they ????) so don't have access to the US legal system.

LoneGunM@n wrote:

As far as I'm concerned,the whole Iraq & Afghan issue is more about the need to have a war to vindicate his presidency rather than a war on terror ... Reagan had the Cold War, Bush snr had the Gulfwar Part1 & Clinton had Serbia ... plus as said before, he needs to repay all the funding he got from defence contractors!

In defence of Clinton, I think he went in to Serbia as part of a UN task force acting to try and stop the genocide didn't he.
Bush's main reason for invading Iraq was to finish off the war his Daddy started.

Of course Sadaam the monster was created by Bush Sr and Ronny reagan supplying him with arms through the Saudi's to win the Iran/Iraq war as they were afraid if Iran won then the hardline line muslims would seize control of the Gulf states and cut off the US access to cheap oil from the Saudis.
And Guess who gave Osama lots of weapons and cash to fight those damn commies in Afghanistan...Yep Bush Sr again.

Isn't there some saying about the sins of the father coming back to haunt the son ?????

Doper Than U · 03-10-2004 12:43AM

Yup, I agree, I couldn't believe it either, and yet there it was... Vanity Fair is a respected magazine, and I'm really not trying to convince people one way or the other as to whether its true or not.. I'm just saying what I read. I was as incredulous as you.

I WILL find this article and post it (if that doesn't break the rules of the forum)... someone must have it somewhere...

daveirl · 03-10-2004 01:18AM

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OfflerCrocGod · 03-10-2004 01:31AM

Bush, George. He is the leader the United States needs at this time. He can fearlessly exploit the terror and uncertainty of the American populace to rape their freedoms and rights. He can shrewdly exploit the deficiency of the American people to asphyxiate it's already emaciated welfare system. He can cajole and enchant the American masses into acquiescing to his calls to re-animate Cold War weapon systems to act as bulwarks againts terrorist with ICBMs. He knows that as long as they are fed their daily dose of "Bread and Circuses" they will never denounce their decrepit education system. George Bush is a man who know what the American people want and how the American people work. They get along like a house on fire. Burn, Baby, Burn.

sceptre · 03-10-2004 07:04PM

Pigman II wrote:

I voted for Kerry because he was on Cheers once.

News to me. And true

SantaHoe · 03-10-2004 08:03PM

Bring back Bill Clinton!!!

Commissar · 04-10-2004 10:45AM

Can anybody point me toward a link for the debate?
I missed it on tv and I would like to watch it.

Hobbes · 04-10-2004 12:15PM

check on the politics board for (broadban friendly)... type post.
has the link there.

Commissar · 04-10-2004 01:43PM

Hobbes wrote:

check on the politics board for (broadban friendly)... type post.
has the link there.

Damn. Should have thought of that.
Thanks

Divine · 04-10-2004 05:48PM

Bush is the leader of the Free World and he does what he has to do to keep it that way. A lot of **** gets caught up inbetween but still 78% of americans feel safe with Bush in office.

What is Kerry going to do against terrorism? What will he do against Iraq? You hear on the news about people dying in iraq every day, imagine what is was like before he sent in his troops? Teenagers with their hands cut off for taking opium, their whole life ahead of them with that handicap just for taking some stupid drug as a means of escaping hell for a few hours.

People complain about the deaths out there but yet no one apart from Ammensty and the likes really gave a **** about the deplorable conditions that people were forced to live in out there. Now the country is getting rebuilt, its on its way to progress except for a few old fashioned tyrants who are just brainwashed into their loathing of the west.

Imagine Kerry as the most powerful man in the world with people walking all over the little runt, id like to see what he'd do!

Make the right choice, Vote Bush!!!!!

Hobbes · 05-10-2004 01:05AM

Divine wrote:

Bush is the leader of the Free World and he does what he has to do to keep it that way. A lot of **** gets caught up inbetween but still 78% of americans feel safe with Bush in office.

Where are you getting that 78% figure from? From what I have seen, it is more 50/50 if even that.

What is Kerry going to do against terrorism? What will he do against Iraq?

Well if you watched the debate you would know wouldn't you. You can also read the plan on http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

You hear on the news about people dying in iraq every day, imagine what is was like before he sent in his troops?

Apart from Saddam being a loon, the country was more or less stable. You should dig out Salam Pax blog on Iraq before the war.

Teenagers with their hands cut off for taking opium, their whole life ahead of them with that handicap just for taking some stupid drug as a means of escaping hell for a few hours.

You sure your not confusing it with Afganistan, where the Taliban killed drug dealers, while under the new leadership the drug dealers are allowed make a profit.

Now the country is getting rebuilt, its on its way to progress except for a few old fashioned tyrants who are just brainwashed into their loathing of the west.

Progress?
- Where a dozen or more people are killed a day?
- Where it is not possible to have free elections?
- Where all the rebuilding contracts are awarded to US companies only, in some instances over Iraq contracts which were cheaper.

Imagine Kerry as the most powerful man in the world with people walking all over the little runt, id like to see what he'd do!

Walking over? Did you even watch the debate. For all the negative press Kerry gets from the US, the debate showed how much a commander in chief Kerry is, and how much of a complete doofus Bush is.

Go watch the uncut version.

Tiriel · 05-10-2004 01:26AM

they're both politicians... do you really think either of them have good intentions?!!!!

joseph brand · 05-10-2004 01:33AM

Can I still vote for Herschelle Kristoffsky.

He is the man, . . . .and if not, then Kerryman.

Flukey · 07-10-2004 12:04AM

Here is a site you all might find interesting:

http://betavote.com/

It shows how people from other countries would vote on the US election and gives you a chance to cast yours.

spoon · 07-10-2004 01:07AM

i would vote for a bag of sugar if it ran against bush

Winters · 07-10-2004 01:29AM

Whats the bets Dana would have a chance at winning the US Elections if she could run?

Bard · 07-10-2004 09:56AM

Winters wrote:

Whats the bets Dana would have a chance at winning the US Elections if she could run?

If I could vote for her in the US Election, I would.

But not in the Irish one.

... funny how Ireland's vote on betavote.com is one of the strongest Pro-Kerry votes there. At this current time, 94% have expressed their preference in his favour... nice.

In this poll, he has my vote.

Anybody but Bush, please.

A Dub in Glasgo · 07-10-2004 10:20AM

John Kerry would get my vote but they could put up a baboon against Bush and the Baboon would get my vote

Bungalow Bill · 07-10-2004 12:42PM

Flukey wrote:

Here is a site you all might find interesting:

http://betavote.com/

It shows how people from other countries would vote on the US election and gives you a chance to cast yours.

Its amazing how many of the countries wouldn't vote for Bush, i didn't read them all but Congo was the only one I saw that voted Bush!!

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