So who's protesting Bush this weekend ?

Mac daddy · 24-06-2004 11:36AM

Ive got better things to doing instead of waisting my time protesting about another stupid Yank.
As for the tax money paying for his security- Irish should not have to pay for that- if the yanks want him safe they can pay for it.
They would be better off giving that money to people who actually need it:rolleyes:

CombatCow · 24-06-2004 12:02PM

^ I agree with Mac daddy

The protest is a waste of time, just causing hassle for commuters

CombatCow

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 01:18PM

any thoughts??

quote:
However, anti-American demonstrations were still expected in Irish capital, a rare sight there.

jesus christ they dont have a F UCKING clue do they????? this just shows how bloody ignorant they are about the rest of the world, they just make this idyllic hallucination that ireland actually is backing them...its all because of bertie ahern and his bloody spinelessness.

christ so i am anti=american am i??? i just hate this uber-patriotism , its so f ucking blind. i suppose that if someone from another country thinks bertie ahern is a prick that they are anti-irish....what kind of f ucking logic do they have??? AAAGH this kind of thing frustrates me so much!! america is such a f ucking great country why do they have to do such stupid things.........its times like these my heart just cracks

Mac daddy · 24-06-2004 01:22PM

Originally posted by munkeehaven
jesus christ they dont have a F UCKING clue do they????? this just shows how bloody ignorant they are about the rest of the world:( [/i]

Sure the think ireland is in england and it is covered in little green men drinking guiness all day-

idiots

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 01:32PM

you just really have to think at these kind of times of the good things in that country because all the S HIT can just load up and blind your face.....micheal moore.... black rebel motorcycle club....curb your enthusiasm...san fransisco...hunter s.thompson.....smashing pumpkins....martin luther king.....edgar allen poe...

there are a lot of greats , its just sad that bloody redneck-christians have the run of the country.i miss bill clinton...he had his faults and of course was not squeaky clean, but at least he was elected with untainted votes and he is not a bloody pretentious, unintelligent gobsheen.......

Bard · 24-06-2004 01:43PM

munkeehaven... what was the point in those bloody huge images?

simu · 24-06-2004 01:45PM

Originally posted by Lodgepole
From a completely impersonal point of view, no it wouldn't be a good thing and we wouldn't be glad. It would cause absolute ****ing havoc if he was to be assassinated, whether it be here or anywhere else.

Yeah, that would only make him a martyr - better he get booted out of office by the American people.

As for the protests, I'm not going - I hate crowds and if I wanted to bring Dubya down, I'd do it by writing and diffusing articles about his policies. I don't do that because there are plenty of other people doing that already. All the same, people have a right to protest in public and I think it's silly that others complain this will give the country a bad image. This is a democracy, after all, not a Bord Fáilte dictatorship!

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 01:46PM

i was trying to show the band black rebel.....but when i got them off the site they were tiny...oops:o

simu · 24-06-2004 01:47PM

Munkeehaven, if you must post images, could you not reduce their size first?

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 01:55PM

sorry...im crap with computers.....***goes red***

ChipZilla · 24-06-2004 02:01PM

Only Human, you must be on some very strong medication...

Coney Island · 24-06-2004 02:08PM

I will not protest

Civilian_Target · 24-06-2004 02:29PM

Originally posted by MrNuked
. And it's masturbatory because it's a self-indulgent display of self-righteousness.

Hehe. It's not a good troll if masturbation doesn't get in there somewhere

Seriously though, he's destroyed America's reputation worldwide, he's destroying the environment, he's destabablised the middle east, he's invaded another country against the desires of other world leaders.

And I don't think the American people will mind too much, after all, they didn't elect him!

Superman · 24-06-2004 02:40PM

I will be smokin peace spliff

Only Human · 24-06-2004 02:57PM

Originally posted by Exit
I won't be protesting, but going by your own statement, doesn't that mean the US should have stayed out of Iraq as it was nothing to do with them?

Just saw that post now. At least America Did some good with Iraq. They Removed a Dictatorship. Protesters against Bush Do no good. If Ireland was attacked by a bunch of mad Terrorists, and there was a country that was a big threat to the attack happening again wouldnt you want to neutralise that threat? Wouldnt you want to help neutralise that threat? (refering to shannon, not joing the army)

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 03:01PM

Just saw that post now. At least America Did some good with Iraq.

you obviously dont read much between the lines do you???

Only Human · 24-06-2004 03:05PM

Ive been following this thread since the start! i just missed that one

shinzon · 24-06-2004 03:12PM

Im probably going to be flamed for this but i dont really see the point in protesting bush's visit, i saw 2 guys down the town today putting up banners loudly proclaiming stop bush etc etc etc

I just thought to myself whats the bloody point, Bush is going to do whatever the hell he wants to do when ever he wants to do it, might sound like a defeatest attitude, I dont see it that way i see it as a realist attitude

You can protest away its your god given right to do so, but remember it aint gonna make a blind bit of difference

Shin

Only Human · 24-06-2004 03:15PM

shinzon i salute you! Theyre probably just doing it for attention. God Damn Hippys

l3rian · 24-06-2004 03:17PM

i wont protest either

what will it achieve?

munkeehaven · 24-06-2004 03:33PM

GAWD if every other person in history had the same APATHY as ye do what the hell would anyone achieve????........i suppose gandi, etc thought the same thing fuc k it im only one person ...jeez no wonder the world is the way it is...everyone is too bloody lazy to care

APATHY IS THE DRUG OF THE NATION

aidan_walsh · 24-06-2004 03:45PM

Wheres the apathy?

1) It won't do any good? Comparisions to Ghandi are rubbish - lets not forget that he was fighting for the freedom of India, what are the protesters here fighting for? A day off work?

2)Its not a state visit, its a visit to Ireland in its capacity as the EU president. Are other countries planning on coming here to protest? None that I've heard of... So whats the beef?

3) Too lazy to care? What are you going to be doing? You'll be walking down a road, holding up traffic in a town that has enough problems by all this, shouting at a few Gardai who couldn't care less what you say to them, and probably going off to get stoned or drunk by the end of the day. Great achievement lads, keep up the good work!

RE*AC*TOR · 24-06-2004 03:50PM

Originally posted by shinzon
I just thought to myself whats the bloody point, Bush is going to do whatever the hell he wants to do when ever he wants to do it, might sound like a defeatest attitude, I dont see it that way i see it as a realist attitude

You can protest away its your god given right to do so, but remember it aint gonna make a blind bit of difference

Probably quite true. But i think we owe it to ourselves to make our point (if that is our point of view - if its not - fine). Dubya was the aggressor in this war. A war whose real victims were innocent people, men, women, children etc etc. He lied to everybody as to the reasons to go into war. I for one, do not want Americans to see Dubya getting a hearty welcome over here. It would be a nice message - look not only the weird scary franco-german euopeans don't like this guy, the nice shamrock wearing, leprechaun stroking irish europeans don't like him either.

Originally posted by Only Human
...there was a country that was a big threat to the attack happening again wouldnt you want to neutralise that threat?

There was NO threat. None. No links, nothing. There is oil, and an old score from George Bush v1.0, but no terrorist links.

Only Human · 24-06-2004 03:56PM

There was no links but that was not know at the time so it was still a threat. I dont think Ghandi would have cared much about Bush coming to Ireland. now on to more important things for me, how do you cook a beef? he he

RE*AC*TOR · 24-06-2004 03:59PM

Originally posted by Only Human
There was no links but that was not know at the time so it was still a threat.

That's fairly spurious reasoning. There was no evidence suggesting there were links. Surely the burden of evidence shuld be with the accuser.

pan · 24-06-2004 04:00PM

I've never protested..but I will be out for my first one this fri in Parnell sq. at 7pm
I only wish I had made it the 100,000 protest in dublin earlier this year (I think a little peice of history)

Note: I'm protesting against the Bush admin, shannon's use, Guantanamo(?) bay, and iraq war.

lyonsy · 24-06-2004 04:13PM

i don't like him but i don't think anything he's done thus far was bad enough to merit the kind of mass demonstrations predicted, i mean he,s not hitler, he overthrew a real bastar d of a dictator wmd's or no wmd's, and probably saved many hundreds if not thousands of lives in doing so. i gurantee that most of the protestors there won't be there to protest against his wars or policies but those mayday protestor types venting anti americanism anti capitalism and anti globalisation.
everyone's entitled to their view, but if the protestors get violent again i hope the gardai give them a good beating

lodgepole · 24-06-2004 04:47PM

Originally posted by doodle_sketch
what are the protesters here fighting for? A day off work?

and probably going off to get stoned or drunk by the end of the day.

It's on a friday evening and a saturday, so that would rule out a high percentage of people from looking for "a day off work". The suggestion is insulting to be quite honest.

As is the assumption that anybody who protests is a smoker or a drinker. Did you see any of the reports or witness first hand the large scale anti war in Iraq protest in Dublin? Of those 100,000 people, how many do you think were stoners?

It's time for people to forget about the bull**** stereotype of the crusty protester. Just because they're the loudest doesn't mean they're the majority.

keu · 24-06-2004 04:58PM

I can't say I'm a big bush fan (other than being fascinated by his wonderful rhetoric), the guy holds the Irish with as much contempt as Rev. Paisley (he thinks we all scumbags and terrorists) but I would love to be a fly on the wall when he has afternoon tea with Bertie.

A war whose real victims were innocent people, men, women, children etc etc.

unfortunately these are the consequences of war, has there ever been one where the victims haven't been innocent?

He lied to everybody as to the reasons to go into war.

Ithink it's time to put the reasons for war behind us. Sometimes I wonder if he hadn't gone and garnered support for his "war against terrorism" would we be living in an Islamic governed country in ten years time. (that is if they didn't kill all us infidels first)

It's time to look to the future and the only way forward is by comming together as a whole, and comitting to a united force where decisions and policy making aren't left soley to what has been in the past a greater American force. American policy and American dictatorship.
I won't be protesting because I reckon the rest of the member states will voice those opinions for me.
...and therefore I hope all those voices are heard (and listened to) at this summit.

sceptre · 24-06-2004 05:02PM

Originally posted by Only Human
If Ireland was attacked by a bunch of mad Terrorists, and there was a country that was a big threat to the attack happening again wouldnt you want to neutralise that threat? Wouldnt you want to help neutralise that threat? (refering to shannon, not joing the army)

Not sure what the middle part of your first sentence says but yeah sure, I'd be the first to drive to Shannon and try to ram some damned terrorist planes. Ramming hijacked planes that are actually on the tarmac is optional.

Do I pass the test?

So who's protesting Bush this weekend ?

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