If you had a gun, would you use it?

Giblet · 19-04-2004 04:49PM

Offhand:

Beretta S687
Mauser rifle (hitler youth collectors)

I can't check them at the moment, in gun safe (which are a legal requirement now)

My Dad started the tallaght Rod and Gun, but sold it over ten years ago.

They are for hunting only and clays, he has three other guns, but I can't recall what they are. They could be used in self defence, although, it's not a recommendation, as one, you'd go to jail, and two, they are super lethal.

Giblet · 19-04-2004 04:50PM

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GuanYin · 19-04-2004 04:54PM

I shot a Beretta a few times in the US

It was really cool at the time but it freaked me out a little afterwards when I thought of the power.

Syke

Samson · 19-04-2004 04:54PM

Originally posted by Giblet
I have shotguns, rifles and a handgun in my house, and I would never ever ever bring them outside of my house not even to show anyone. Yes and they are all licensed.

What type of handgun?

Giblet · 19-04-2004 04:56PM

I have NO idea.

It was the one used for security in the shop, it might not even work, I don't go around testing them:D

the cat · 19-04-2004 04:56PM

nah i dont need or like guns
but i would keep one for protection, if i really needed it

Samson · 19-04-2004 04:57PM

Originally posted by syke
I shot a Beretta a few times in the US
It was really cool at the time but it freaked me out a little afterwards when I thought of the power.

Syke

The Beretta that Giblet mentions is a shotgun.

Giblet · 19-04-2004 05:01PM

With an optimum range of 50m:D

Raphael · 19-04-2004 05:02PM

Originally posted by Johnny Versace
is it just the laws (no guns etc.) which is keeping a lot of us from becoming criminals?

thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard in my life

and personnally i wouldnt buy a gun.

planning on buying a sword sometime soon though...

Deadwing · 19-04-2004 05:03PM

I had access to quite alot of firearms a while ago, this is me with the actual magnum from dirty harry.

And to answer the original question no i wouldnt use them for evil purposes, only for day to day activities, such as shooting at the television when it annoys me.

Bard · 19-04-2004 05:04PM

I don't have a gun, but I have a sword. (looks like this) - and I'd use it ... if I REALLY had to.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:05PM

Originally posted by Giblet
I have NO idea.

It was the one used for security in the shop, it might not even work, I don't go around testing them:D

I suspect you have no idea because this was either a fictional handgun, or a starting pistol.
Private handgun ownership has been illegal in this country since the 1960s.
Keeping an illegally held handgun in a gun shop for "security" purposes would be an exceedingly stupid thing to do.

Please don't try to impress us with your wild Walter Mitty type stories.
Please don't threaten to shoot me.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:09PM

Originally posted by Deadwing
I had access to quite alot of firearms a while ago, this is me with the actual magnum from dirty harry.
And to answer the original question no i wouldnt use them for evil purposes, only for day to day activities, such as shooting at the television when it annoys me.

Wow, you look so cool and scary with the actual magnum from dirty harrytm.

Giblet · 19-04-2004 05:11PM

Samson, excuse me?

For one, in a gun shop, nothing having security is the stupid thing, you have no idea, and are making stupid assumptions.

The shop had been targetted plenty of times. You may think you know the laws, but you are very naive to believe there are not exceptions. Especially when one owns a gun shop, which the police come in all the time to talk about guns, and stock repairs, and to help with transports for private clients. Please do not use your stupidly arrogant tones just because you think you know all about guns.

Not having a gun in a gun shop is stupid. People stealing guns and ammo is quite a popular thing.

Oh and threaten to shoot you fucking child, trying to act the big man, because what you think isn't possible can't be, and I must be a big liar or something?

Boston · 19-04-2004 05:12PM

Originally posted by Bard
I don't have a gun, but I have a sword. (looks like this) - and I'd use it ... if I REALLY had to.

Did you buy that here? because if you did it will probably snap in half the first time it hits anthing solid. These are the only kind of swords available here. Either way it looks cool.

O and to the original poster, you're a pleb.

Deadwing · 19-04-2004 05:14PM

Originally posted by Samson
Wow, you look so cool and scary with the actual magnum from dirty harrytm.

Who put **** in your cornflakes?

Jerk.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:15PM

Originally posted by Giblet
Samson, excuse me?

For one, in a gun shop, nothing having security is the stupid thing, you have no idea, and are making stupid assumptions.

The shop had been targetted plenty of times. You may think you know the laws, but you are very naive to believe there are not exceptions. Especially when one owns a gun shop, which the police come in all the time to talk about guns, and to help with transports for private clients. Please do not use your stupidly arrogant tones just because you think you know all about guns.

Not having a gun in a gun shop is stupid. People stealing guns and ammo is quite a popular thing.

Never said anything about a gun. I said handgun. There is a very significant difference Walter.
And no, there are no exceptions to the handgun ban, gun dealer or not.

And Walter, I never professed to knowing a lot about guns. But the little I do know, I know correctly.

Giblet · 19-04-2004 05:19PM

Yes ok I suppose, it's illegal to own one, I suppose noone has any pirated Mp3's either.

Assumption boy better keep quiet about me, or the fuzz might be around!

Oh and did you know cops, sometimes when they confiscate stuff, they KEEP it for themselves.

But of course that can't happen, as it's against the law.

You see my dads a CIA guy and the police officers were so nice to make certain allowances as he investigated my neighbours.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:19PM

Originally posted by Deadwing
Who put **** in your cornflakes?

Jerk.

I'm sorry, but I just have a problem with this thread and posts like yours.
It won't be long before someone posts a pic with the caption Look at my cool RPG.
My cock, sorry, gun is bigger than yours syndrome.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:24PM

Originally posted by Giblet
Yes ok I suppose, it's illegal to own one, I suppose noone has any pirated Mp3's either.

Assumption boy better keep quiet, or the fuzz might be around!

Sorry Walter, I don't understand that. Who's assumption boy?
And, I don't think illegally held handguns and MP3s would be viewed in quite the same light by the judiciary.

Deadwing · 19-04-2004 05:24PM

Originally posted by Samson
I'm sorry, but I just have a problem with this thread and posts like yours.
It won't be long before someone posts a pic with the caption Look at my cool RPG.
My cock, sorry, gun is bigger than yours syndrome.

Ah right, so on a thread about guns, you object to people posting pictures of guns, or holding a gun. Ever think maybe you should just go to a forum or thread where stuff doesnt irritate you? And stop trying to start petty drama like a bloody 15yr old pre-pubescent girl?

Giblet · 19-04-2004 05:25PM

Originally posted by Samson
Sorry Walter, I don't understand that. Who's assumption boy?
And, I don't think illegally held handguns and MP3s would be viewed in quite the same light by the judiciary.

No but you're saying that having one in position can't happen.

It could even be decomissioned, but hey, I don't want to make assumptions as you yourself are.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:29PM

Originally posted by Deadwing
Ah right, so on a thread about guns...

Well, you see, my problem is, this thread is not about guns per se, it's about would you do something stupid if you had access to a gun?
Had this been a general discussion about firearms, without the silly stuff, I would not be trotting around on my high-horse.

Boston · 19-04-2004 05:36PM

There are exceptions to the the handgun ban. IRA Informants are allowed to have them, as are certain police and intelligents officers for personal protection. Afaik the guns you're issued are **** though.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:37PM

Originally posted by Giblet
No but you're saying that having one in position can't happen.

It could even be decomissioned, but hey, I don't want to make assumptions as you yourself are.

Yes, you're right, of course it's possible that your father behaved in a criminal manner by owning an illegal, non-licensed firearm. My apologies.

However, it's not very sensible of you to be bragging about your father being a criminal.

Deadwing · 19-04-2004 05:38PM

Originally posted by Samson
Well, you see, my problem is, this thread is not about guns per se, it's about would you do something stupid if you had access to a gun?
Had this been a general discussion about firearms, without the silly stuff, I would not be trotting around on my high-horse.

And maybe if you read my post youd have seen i did say what id do with a gun if i had one.
Anyway, think what you like, it was a thread about guns and what you'd do with them, i posted a pic of myself with a gun and said what id do if i had one, and if that got your little panties in a bunch, well i am SO sorry.

/sarcasm off

Giblet · 19-04-2004 05:42PM

Yes it is very possible that, if found out, he might of gotten into trouble.

I can't help feeling that the police pretty much knew though, you as IT IS A GUN SHOP. Police tend to know the goings on, and maybe it wasn't above board, but again making assumptions that my father had possession of a handgun which was aquired through means which could have had legal consequences due to it being unsolicitated, as in the police weren't involved, or had indeed got it for him isn't something I like to do, and I wouldn't recommend it to you, because, who the fuck are you to talk about my family.

Of course a sarcastic/cyncial comment, about how cool I think I am or something will be the perfect answer, because no-one is more in the know as you.

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:45PM

Originally posted by Deadwing
well i am SO sorry.

That's okay. Apology accepted.

Dooom · 19-04-2004 05:48PM

Thing is though, that anyone here who says that they'd pull a beretta or ak on someone (those being serious...), obviously I don't know them, but I'd highly doubt that they would. Granted one might do so to a scumbag or someone, but the odds of them pulling the trigger are like non-existant. My father owns 2 shotguns and a .22 rifle, and I own an air rifle. All of which I have access to, and I'm sure if i got so pissed off at someone that I would kill them the thought might cross my mind but so far that hasn't happened. The closest I've come to killing someone is when I was target shooting with the .22 rifle and by accident I missed the target by a good foot or so and it went wizzing off into the distance (I'm not normally that bad a shot..honest..). And I'm not trying to say that I'd never shoot anyone because that's bad or its a sin or because of the the emotional/mental trauma, simply because I'm sure I'd like to think, aswell as nearly everyone else, that I could kill someone if I wanted to or needed to do and not bat an eyelid. But all you have to do is look at the first time the GI's in Vietnam or WWII or WWI killed someone, granted they were in war circumstances but that would only add to the fact that the had just killed someone in cold blood. I mean..ah I dunno. I'm goin off..

Samson · 19-04-2004 05:49PM

Originally posted by Giblet
who the fuck are you to talk about my family.

Well, it was you who claimed that your father was a criminal, I merely repeated it.
No matter how he got his hands on said handgun, having said handgun is a criminal offence, whether the Gardai turned a blind eye or not.

If you had a gun, would you use it?

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