Africa - The spare wheel?

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 04:02PM #1

Let me firstly point out three things:
1) I am not a racist.
2) I welcome the influx of asylum seekers and refugees to our country with open arms and feel it is our duty to do so.
3) This is not a troll and I am not trying to start a flame war.

So, my point is, after my thread yesterday on Women inventors another thing sprang to mind; African Inventors?

Seriously, can anybody think of anything that was invented by an African that is of use in civilised society?

Before all the PC monkeys get on my back I will refer you back to the 3 points above! I am not being racist but seriously cannot think of one thing, however, I can think of at least one invention for every other continent that is of use in civilised society!

Any pointers on this would be appreciated??

Pigman II · 21-03-2004 04:07PM

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 04:19PM

Hey, if you can think of some I will back down...until then I am right as usual!

flogen · 21-03-2004 04:20PM

what about this guy, Emeagwali, inventor of the supercomputer, which is said to have led to the invention of the internet (site says it gave need).... that good enough for you?
http://www.emeagwali.com/index.shtml

Flogen

Jim · 21-03-2004 04:30PM

Originally posted by flogen
what about this guy, Emeagwali, inventor of the supercomputer, which is said to have led to the invention of the internet (site says it gave need).... that good enough for you?
http://www.emeagwali.com/index.shtml

Flogen

lol

And i suppose any invention created by ay African American can also be credited as African. I'm sure actual Africans have invented many useful things, farmtools etc... Items which be beneficial to them in everyday life. I think with the conditions they live in, inventions of a practical nature would be the only thing they are thinking of.

flogen · 21-03-2004 04:31PM

well id call the guy African, he was born there.

Id see an african american as someone of African desent who was born in America... not just living there. Perhaps thats not technically correct, but its how Id see it

Flogen

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 04:32PM

I suppose this is acceptable yes...
...however, I would prefer an African inventor who invented whil in Africa with an African education if anyone can find any?

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 04:34PM

Originally posted by Jimeatsmenu
lol

And i suppose any invention created by ay African American can also be credited as African. I'm sure actual Africans have invented many useful things, farmtools etc... Items which be beneficial to them in everyday life. I think with the conditions they live in, inventions of a practical nature would be the only thing they are thinking of.

Conditions they live in really can't be used as an excuse...especially since there has been a human race on the African continent for longer than any other...why haven't they advanced themselves?

flogen · 21-03-2004 04:37PM

Conditions they live in really can't be used as an excuse...especially since there has been a human race on the African continent for longer than any other...why haven't they advanced themselves?

:rolleyes:

you may not be racist, but you sure are ignorant

"i dont care if your crops have been wiped out by famine, and your children are dying.... build me a TV thats also a car and a time machine.... NOW!!!"

Im sure there are many reasons for their problems with advances, perhaps previous occupying powers, current dictators, famines, AIDS, natural disasters.... no excuse, mind you

Flogen

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 04:43PM

Originally posted by flogen
:rolleyes:

you may not be racist, but you sure are ignorant

"i dont care if your crops have been wiped out by famine, and your children are dying.... build me a TV thats also a car and a time machine.... NOW!!!"

Im sure there are many reasons for their problems with advances, perhaps previous occupying powers, current dictators, famines, AIDS, natural disasters.... no excuse, mind you

Flogen

Why was it that back in time the other rulers, such as those of Europe were so far advanced that they were capable of ruling the Africans? Is there a reason for this? Europes crops have also been wiped out by famine, we have had pandemics throughout history( the black death etc), Europe has natural disasters in abundance.... why should Africanot be on a par with the rest of civilisation? Given that we all experience the same hardships throughout time?

embee · 21-03-2004 04:58PM

Originally posted by dirty_latino
Conditions they live in really can't be used as an excuse...especially since there has been a human race on the African continent for longer than any other...why haven't they advanced themselves?

Third World Debt....
Civil Wars......
Genocide.......
An AIDS epidemic....
No employment.......
Government corruption......
Drought & Famine......

flogen · 21-03-2004 04:59PM

Britain was capable of ruling America for a long time, they wernt that much more advanced than them, though.
Anyway, yes, Europe has had natural disasters, famines and plauges etc etc, but no where near the same as Africa, recent natural disasters have destroyed huge pieces oof land and so families and economies, places in Europe might get flooded, but its nothing major and can be dealt with quite easily in comparison. And the black death wasnt exclusive to Europe, Africa got it too, but as Im sure you know AIDS is the latest epidemic, and is rampant on the African continent.

we havent experienced the same hardships through time, and besides natural disasters and diseases, many rulers have, decade after decade done their best to keep the people down to ensure a strong grip on the country, such conditions are not favorable for budding inventors.

Flogen

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 05:07PM

Originally posted by flogen
Britain was capable of ruling America for a long time, they wernt that much more advanced than them, though.
Anyway, yes, Europe has had natural disasters, famines and plauges etc etc, but no where near the same as Africa, recent natural disasters have destroyed huge pieces oof land and so families and economies, places in Europe might get flooded, but its nothing major and can be dealt with quite easily in comparison. And the black death wasnt exclusive to Europe, Africa got it too, but as Im sure you know AIDS is the latest epidemic, and is rampant on the African continent.

we havent experienced the same hardships through time, and besides natural disasters and diseases, many rulers have, decade after decade done their best to keep the people down to ensure a strong grip on the country, such conditions are not favorable for budding inventors.

Flogen

I think you will find that AIDS is a pandemic. And I am not talking recent history here...of the course of human kind why has Africa not been able to keep up?
Please remember that dictators are not solely in Africa and try to f=do some researc before you make statements like your last. Which recent natural disasters? how much land? how did it affect the economy? I want facts before I will accept such ludicrous statements!

simu · 21-03-2004 05:18PM

What is the point of your question?

Can you think of any scientific invnetion by an Irish person not of Anglo-Irish descent before the 19th century?

jesus_thats_gre · 21-03-2004 05:28PM

Originally posted by embee
Third World Debt....
Civil Wars......
Genocide.......
An AIDS epidemic....
No employment.......
Government corruption......
Drought & Famine......

I think this goes beyond modern society or the last 100 years.....

African civilisations are one of the longest standing civilisations in the world, yet they are possibly the least advanced of all civilisations. Plagues/famines are something that has affected all civilisations, young and old, yet some civilisations have learned to cope and plan for such occurances. On the other hand, African civilsations have not adopted to the difficult comditions they live in in such a way that they are at least gauranteed a certain standard of living. Not only this, but they allow corrupt goverments and dictators to gain power over and over!

I would argue that Artic conditions are more inhospitable, yet the people in these regions manage!

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:00PM

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
I think this goes beyond modern society or the last 100 years.....

African civilisations are one of the longest standing civilisations in the world, yet they are possibly the least advanced of all civilisations. Plagues/famines are something that has affected all civilisations, young and old, yet some civilisations have learned to cope and plan for such occurances. On the other hand, African civilsations have not adopted to the difficult comditions they live in in such a way that they are at least gauranteed a certain standard of living. Not only this, but they allow corrupt goverments and dictators to gain power over and over!

I would argue that Artic conditions are more inhospitable, yet the people in these regions manage!

Fo shizzle mah nizzle!

Jim · 21-03-2004 06:04PM

Originally posted by flogen
well id call the guy African, he was born there.

Id see an african american as someone of African desent who was born in America... not just living there. Perhaps thats not technically correct, but its how Id see it

Flogen

I was agreeing with you.

flogen · 21-03-2004 06:17PM

oh sorry, I thought you were saying that you couldnt credit the invention of an african american to africa.... my mistake..... stupid boards.ie... no way of detecting sarcasm or lack thereof......

Flogen

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:20PM

Originally posted by flogen
oh sorry, I thought you were saying that you couldnt credit the invention of an african american to africa.... my mistake..... stupid boards.ie... no way of detecting sarcasm or lack thereof......

Flogen

A brain would help for this, or even a grasp of the English language.

Kold · 21-03-2004 06:22PM

Jamaican but African roots, Bob Marley... The 'pass it to the left' rule

Trix · 21-03-2004 06:23PM

Originally posted by dirty_latino

So, my point is, after my thread yesterday on Women inventors another thing sprang to mind; African Inventors?

whats the deal with your interest in inventions?

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:25PM

Originally posted by Trix
whats the deal with your interest in inventions?

Just wondering if everybody is pulling their weight in making society better, that's all!

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:26PM

Originally posted by Kold
Jamaican but African roots, Bob Marley... The 'pass it to the left' rule

Bob Marley....Jamaican???

HAHAHA, you should be on stage!!

Look into this one buddy!

Trix · 21-03-2004 06:27PM

Originally posted by dirty_latino
Just wondering if everybody is pulling their weight in making society better, that's all!

are you? i'm not being sarcastic. just wondering.

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:30PM

Originally posted by Trix
are you? i'm not being sarcastic. just wondering.

yes

Trix · 21-03-2004 06:32PM

how exactly??

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 21-03-2004 06:34PM

he's lowering the IQ of the planet, so we don't get taxed for over-intelligence

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:34PM

Originally posted by Trix
how exactly??

Wondering what different cross-sections of society have offered to make society better in general?

flogen · 21-03-2004 06:34PM

dirty_latino, stop being such an idiot.
I was refering to TONE, which, no matter how well read you are, is undetectable in print.

this thread should have ended a long time ago, did you not notice the invention i spoke about at the start? did you not say youd shut up once you were proven wrong??

Flogen

Jim · 21-03-2004 06:35PM

Originally posted by dirty_latino
A brain would help for this, or even a grasp of the English language.

Was that comment necessary?
Is this one?
What about this thread?
Or your user?
Do we really need either.

dirty_latino · 21-03-2004 06:36PM

Originally posted by Mordeth
he's lowering the IQ of the planet, so we don't get taxed for over-intelligence

When you have an honours degree and a high paying job you can have an opinion.
Until then, go back to Terry Pratchett's world, probably the only place you feel safe from beatings...you loser.

Africa - The spare wheel?

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