Ever seen a Ghost ?...

Zulu · 13-02-2004 11:11AM

I don't believe in ghosts hanging about this world, the universe is just a bit bit for me to accept that. I am very open minded, but, to me, this borders on the ridiculous - up there with a man from the North Pole. (Just my opinion - millions for children can't be wrong about the dude from the pole

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Originally posted by tinkerbell
I believe in ghosts, two appeared hovering over me when I woke up in the middle of the night, a few nights / maybe weeks later, something grabbed my neck forcing me to wake up.

Sleep paralisis and night terrors I have experienced - but they were just that, I understand that my mind was still in dreamy land, I could cry ghosts - but it isn't ghosts.
As for your experience, feeling somthing grabbing your neck.
I suggest to you, that if a ghost (good) wished to wake you for some reason - they wouldn't grab your neck (absolutly terrifing the s**t outta you), but perhaps your foot/arm.
Now if that was ghost bad (meaning to grab your neck) and could physically kill you - surly they would finish the job? (Sorry don't mean to freak you out here) But it dosen't make sence at all. Only that it was trying to scare you... why? Why would a spirit hang around for years to scare random people???

SheroN · 13-02-2004 11:30AM

BOOOOOO!!!

hedgetrimmer · 13-02-2004 11:41AM

Had a few of these experiences

1. Once I was staying over in a friends house in a room in which the door periodically locks itself (an occurance observed by several different people at diferent times) when I had the sense of a middle aged business man there, and saw him clear as day, very calm very rational, doffing his cap to me.

At breakfast the following morning, I mentioned that I had an odd night and the elder sister said "Oh, did you meet my businessman?". Odd.

2. There was another time in my sister's hosue in Prospect Avenue where I was staying over, but couldn't sleep - I kept get horrible "flash-backs" of beating and nasty things. On the strength of that, they did some poking in newspapers in the Ilac library (where my sis worked at the time) and found that the house had been used to lull people back for drugging, beating and robbing.

3. A house in the country where I was staynig with some friends. I woke up in the middle of the night and "revealed" to one of my friends, who was awake, the most detailed account of what had happened her in tht room when she was 8 years old. Something I couldn't have known (only knew her for a few months, and she was 18 then), but I was accurate in every detail.

I have done a bit of research into this and maybe might do a book one of these days - Incredibly briefly all emotions produce energy. Energy can't be destroyed it just changes form. We can pick up on energy - consider walking into a room in which there has been an argument - you know that there has been one instinctively, you could "cut the atmosphere with a knife". Perhaps we don't fully use that part of our brain that interprets this energy yet, but we may someday. Until then, our brains project images, visual representations, feelings, sensations, but all detached, ephemeral...ghost-like.

If you consider a current scietific theory that language will be defunct within 100 years, perhaps this energy-awareness will be an evolutionary step to a new form of communication. Consider the huge surge to replace codified dogmatic religion with more energy-based systems (yoga, tai-chi, Buddhism, etc).

Anyway, I could go on for hours....

Zulu · 13-02-2004 11:54AM

Originally posted by hedgetrimmer
Had a few of these experiences
1. Once I was staying over in a friends house in a room in which the door periodically locks itself (an occurance observed by several different people at diferent times) when I had the sense of a middle aged business man there, and saw him clear as day, very calm very rational, doffing his cap to me.

Why oh why, would a spirit hang around to lock doors? ...and unfufilled desire to be a prison officer??? Ahh come on, I just can't accept that.

...now as for the energy theory - I can accept that as a possiabilty.

Zulu · 13-02-2004 11:55AM

Originally posted by Zulu
Ahh come on, I just can't accept that.
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...sorry, I'm not calling you a liar - I do believe you, but just can't accept that it's a pervious person hanging around to lock the door.

hedgetrimmer · 13-02-2004 12:35PM

No problem Zulu, the door could be entirely unrelated to this specific "vision". Stuff happened in that house a lot, like knifes jumping off tables and bottles from the back of a shelf smashing on the floor.

Which could, to continue my "theory", be merely kinetic forms of built up energy in the place of in people (recalling that most poltergeist activity occurs around people, not places, ususally in their teens, and usually amongst what people would call "troubled teens" - a well established occurance which can be found agreed upon in most parapsychology circles)

tinkerbell · 13-02-2004 07:28PM

Originally posted by Zulu
Sleep paralisis and night terrors I have experienced - but they were just that, I understand that my mind was still in dreamy land, I could cry ghosts - but it isn't ghosts.
As for your experience, feeling somthing grabbing your neck.
I suggest to you, that if a ghost (good) wished to wake you for some reason - they wouldn't grab your neck (absolutly terrifing the s**t outta you), but perhaps your foot/arm.
Now if that was ghost bad (meaning to grab your neck) and could physically kill you - surly they would finish the job? (Sorry don't mean to freak you out here) But it dosen't make sence at all. Only that it was trying to scare you... why? Why would a spirit hang around for years to scare random people???

I can't answer your questions, all I know is that two bizaare incidents happened. I have no understanding at all of how spirits behave, all I know is that they co-exist with us

gonker · 14-02-2004 09:31PM

yes i have seen a ghost..... when i was about 16 lying in bed talking to my cousin who was in the bed next to me i saw a woman walking....i say walking...gliding along the wall in my bedroom she was dressed in victorian clothes....... just floated past and disapeared into the wall she didnt see me or give any indication that i was there. my cousin said i had a funny look on my face....my house was 1930s built so couldnt have been a flash back maybe from a previous build...i dont know....it wasnt scary just weird...
my mam (rip) on the other hand had very freaky experiences....during the war wwII :-) she was sent to the country to her grandparents to their old house where they could hear horses in the stables but there was no horses...gates slamming shut but the gates were not there people walking up and down stairs where my great grandad would shout to leave his family alone... she also woke up to see a little boy beside her bed playing with matches and a candle he turned to her and smiled...scary stuff.
gonk

Kold · 15-02-2004 02:25AM

Something has to be proven scientifically in my opinion before I'll believe it. I mean, i won't go believing something just because someone told someone told someone (religion...).

fozzle · 15-02-2004 06:04PM

Science can't really prove anything, there's always loopholes, thats why no sensible scientist will ever talk about "facts".

I'm a scientist myself and yet I believe that there is some basis for ghosts, whether as spirits or as residual energies I'm not sure, but I've seen and heard things that I can't explain, and my house is over 230 years old, so I wouldn't be suprised if the people who lived there before (most of whom I'm related to) had left their essence in the house.

TCamen · 16-02-2004 02:13AM

Mansion near my house (it's now a Spanish boarding school) used to have a ghost apparently. A lady in white that committed suicide by jumping off the roof. She would repeat the act every night, according to friends. Then again, you'd believe anything when you're young & impressionable hehe.
I've never seen a ghost, but I do believe in the paranormal & stuff like ghosts. Once years ago I was in my bedroom,was about 6 at the time, a big hardback book moved a few feet on the floor when my back was turned. I heard the thump of it hitting the floor & looked back. It was definitely in a different place on the floor. Now I'm not saying a ghost did it, but I can't explain how a big heavy book would spontaneously move around on the floor

My bedroom is above the kitchen, and sometimes I could hear the chairs moving as if someone had pulled it back to sit in during the night, yet everyone was upstairs in bed. I dunno, hard to explain I guess, and sounds silly reading it back even to me, but hey, just wanted to contribute

Zulu · 16-02-2004 11:42AM

Originally posted by fozzle
Science can't really prove anything, there's always loopholes, thats why no sensible scientist will ever talk about "facts".

I'm a scientist myself and yet I believe that there is some basis for ghosts, whether as spirits or as residual energies I'm not sure, but I've seen and heard things that I can't explain, and my house is over 230 years old, so I wouldn't be suprised if the people who lived there before (most of whom I'm related to) had left their essence in the house.

Ok, sorry but I'm a scientist myself. I've studied it for too long now to listen to such comments.
"can't really prove anything" & "no sensible scientist will ever talk about facts"!!!
The mind boggles.
Science proves 1+1=2.
Science proves that the speed of light in a vacum is 299,792,458 m/s.
As you would know, when writing up an experment you list all the facts.
:rolleyes:

vibe666 · 16-02-2004 12:33PM

yes, i've seen several, right from when i was about 4 (my mum found me having a detailed conversation with my recently dead grandfather), to seeing people who just weren't there.

i've seen and heard too much for it to be anything but real,, and i'm a pretty big sceptic when it comes to lots of 'unexplained' things.

i have my truth and i don't need to prove it to anyone. believe me or not. i'm not at all bothered either way.

hedgetrimmer · 16-02-2004 12:39PM

I find it interesting to see that science itself is now branching into more esoteric fields, like quantam theory, and proporting suggestions that various meditative methods and oriental texts have been saying for centuries - such notions like the act of observing something changes the nature of that which is being observed.

I am not a scientist, but I do believe that true understanding in a lot of things will come from a combination of science and philosophy - maybe science proving philosophy. All scientific discoveries were deemed science-fiction until they actually happened, and in some ways, philosophy is there though process that can lead to such musings becoming scientific investigation and maybe occasionally being proven.

Just a thought.

Kold · 16-02-2004 12:41PM

Well tbh with you, Science is the study of everything. I mean there are more conventional branches of science but everything is a science.

aine · 16-02-2004 01:18PM

yup....I was staying in a friends one night and as I was going upstairs I just happened to look out the window on the landing, the window looked out over the road in front of her house and I saw a woman walking down the street, nothing unusual there I guess except in was four thirty in the morning......no I hadn't been drinking, my friend was going away for three months so we were just having a lets get everyone together and have a bit of fun minus alcohol night!

So anyway as she got nearer I noticed that she was dressed in a nurse's uniform, but not a modern one....a really old style one and she had this weird little lantern thingie as well, I told my friends mother about it the following morning who informed me that the house at the end of the street used to be a fever hospital!! I was well spooked!

Zulu · 16-02-2004 01:35PM

I saw a ghost one, and I asked him if ghosts REALLY exist, and he said "b*llix to that, are you mental, of cousre they dont"

Exit · 17-02-2004 03:16AM

Originally posted by hedgetrimmer
All scientific discoveries were deemed science-fiction until they actually happened.

Exactly. It would be silly to assume that science can and has proven everything.

ThrAx · 17-02-2004 04:02AM

Originally posted by Bubba
YOUR REALLY INTO THIS GHOST STUFF ARN'T U

WHATS WITH ALL THE ****ING SHOUTING?!!! :rolleyes:

dod · 17-02-2004 11:25AM

OK first of all, No I don't believe in ghosts.

However: I woke up from the deepest sleep last night to find somebody in my room that shouldn't have been. No idea who he was. In shock I jumped up & took a swing at him (This all happened instantaneously, it was an instinctive reaction). Then I pulled the curtains open to light the room from the streetlights, and there was nobody there.

No I hadn't been drinking earlier or anything else along those lines, and I swear that, to me, the person in my room was as real as could be. The utter terror I felt was very very real. The punch that I swung at him was certainly real. But I punched nothing, and there was nobody there when I opened the curtains.

Do I believe in ghosts now? No I don't. But I can't explain last nights incident either. Not something I'm going to dwell on, but I thought of this thread and decided it would be timely to throw this little episode into the mix.

Lex_Diamonds · 17-02-2004 11:37AM

Originally posted by dod
OK first of all, No I don't believe in ghosts.

However: I woke up from the deepest sleep last night to find somebody in my room that shouldn't have been. No idea who he was. In shock I jumped up & took a swing at him (This all happened instantaneously, it was an instinctive reaction). Then I pulled the curtains open to light the room from the streetlights, and there was nobody there

:ninja:

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